CenSin Posted February 19, 2022 Share #1 Posted February 19, 2022 Sauce: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/18/nyregion/nyc-subway-homeless.html Quote New York City Plans to Stop Homeless People From Sheltering in Subway By Andy Newman, Dana Rubinstein and Michael Gold Feb. 18, 2022Updated 7:44 p.m. ET Mayor Eric Adams and Gov. Kathy Hochul announced on Friday an aggressive plan to deploy police officers and mental-health workers into New York City’s subway, pledging to remove more than 1,000 homeless people who shelter there regularly, some of whom have contributed to escalating violence and harassment in the system. Starting Monday, the officials said, there will be a zero-tolerance policy — enforced by the hundreds of officers who already patrol the system — for people sleeping sprawled across train seats or in stations, or for other violations of the subway’s often flouted rules of conduct, including littering, unruly behavior and lingering in a station for over an hour. Dozens of mental-health professionals with the power to order the involuntary hospitalization of people who they deem a danger to themselves or others will be added to outreach teams systemwide. “No more just doing whatever you want,” Mr. Adams said at a news conference at a Lower Manhattan subway station. “Those days are over. Swipe your MetroCard, ride the system, get off at your destination. That’s what this administration is saying.” … 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted February 19, 2022 Share #2 Posted February 19, 2022 Would be nice if they could clean it up, but I won't hold my breath. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Bus Co. Posted February 19, 2022 Share #3 Posted February 19, 2022 At one point during the 1990s, the Coalition for the Homeless actually demanded (yes, demanded) that the whole subway system shut down overnight so that homeless people could use the trains and stations as shelters. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted February 26, 2022 Share #4 Posted February 26, 2022 On 2/19/2022 at 11:59 AM, Via Garibaldi 8 said: Would be nice if they could clean it up, but I won't hold my breath. Here's the Kicker.. They have been doing this already, now they just broadcasting it.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted February 26, 2022 Share #5 Posted February 26, 2022 On 2/19/2022 at 12:29 PM, Gotham Bus Co. said: At one point during the 1990s, the Coalition for the Homeless actually demanded (yes, demanded) that the whole subway system shut down overnight so that homeless people could use the trains and stations as shelters. LOL wow... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted February 26, 2022 Share #6 Posted February 26, 2022 54 minutes ago, RTOMan said: Here's the Kicker.. They have been doing this already, now they just broadcasting it.. Well IIRC, they were doing something similar when de Blasio was still in office. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted February 26, 2022 Share #7 Posted February 26, 2022 Lingering in the subway for more then an hour? What about those of us that railfan the subway? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHacksJustKhaks Posted February 26, 2022 Share #8 Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: Lingering in the subway for more then an hour? What about those of us that railfan the subway? By "lingering", they probably mean homeless that are resting/staying at a certain station for a long time, probably with the stuff they are carrying. These aren't the types with compact gear, that stand up to film trains (railfanners). Personally I tend not to stay at a specific station platform for more than an hour even when I'm railfanning. One exception I can think of is retirement runs (like the R32 final run) but that explains itself. Edited February 26, 2022 by NoHacksJustKhaks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted February 26, 2022 Share #9 Posted February 26, 2022 4 hours ago, NoHacksJustKhaks said: By "lingering", they probably mean homeless that are resting/staying at a certain station for a long time, probably with the stuff they are carrying. These aren't the types with compact gear, that stand up to film trains (railfanners). Personally I tend not to stay at a specific station platform for more than an hour even when I'm railfanning. One exception I can think of is retirement runs (like the R32 final run) but that explains itself. That's what they mean, or doing things that are against rules, like laying across the seats on the subway or platform. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted February 26, 2022 Share #10 Posted February 26, 2022 Man today a homeless man was sleep laying down on the train AND THERE WAS TWO COPS STANDING RIGHT NEXT TO THE CAR and guess what? They didn't do shit! They stood there chatting amongst themselves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted February 27, 2022 Share #11 Posted February 27, 2022 9 hours ago, trainfan22 said: Man today a homeless man was sleep laying down on the train AND THERE WAS TWO COPS STANDING RIGHT NEXT TO THE CAR and guess what? They didn't do shit! They stood there chatting amongst themselves. Yup, I’ve spoken to some sergeants and NCOs about it, and they all say they are basically instructed to leave the homeless alone unless they enter private property or are actively committing a serious crime. So I don’t have much hope for this program 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted February 27, 2022 Share #12 Posted February 27, 2022 18 hours ago, trainfan22 said: Man today a homeless man was sleep laying down on the train AND THERE WAS TWO COPS STANDING RIGHT NEXT TO THE CAR and guess what? They didn't do shit! They stood there chatting amongst themselves. 9 hours ago, QM1to6Ave said: Yup, I’ve spoken to some sergeants and NCOs about it, and they all say they are basically instructed to leave the homeless alone unless they enter private property or are actively committing a serious crime. So I don’t have much hope for this program I know a few people that have been assigned to do outreach and such. These cops may not have been responsible for that, and if not, then it makes sense. With the homeless advocacy groups, you can't do anything or they'll be up in arms. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted February 27, 2022 Author Share #13 Posted February 27, 2022 52 minutes ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said: I know a few people that have been assigned to do outreach and such. These cops may not have been responsible for that, and if not, then it makes sense. With the homeless advocacy groups, you can't do anything or they'll be up in arms. Who are these advocates anyway? Are they homeless themselves, people who ride the subway, or people who just advocate from an ivory tower? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted February 27, 2022 Share #14 Posted February 27, 2022 Just now, CenSin said: Who are these advocates anyway? Are they homeless themselves, people who ride the subway, or people who just advocate from an ivory tower? This is one of them. I don't know if any of them were previously homeless or what. https://www.coalitionforthehomeless.org/about-the-coalition/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted February 28, 2022 Share #15 Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, CenSin said: or people who just advocate from an ivory tower? I'll wager that at least a few of them are phony, limousine-liberal social justice warriors... like the nonprofit a few years back that received funds from the City to do outreach, but never even left their office desks during the workday. In this country, instead of actually helping the homeless, we instead have a homeless-industrial complex. Edited February 28, 2022 by R10 2952 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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