R32 3838 Posted May 26, 2021 Share #351 Posted May 26, 2021 i mean as much as he posts spam, that assignment is realistic if you really think about it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amiri the subway guy Posted July 21, 2021 Share #352 Posted July 21, 2021 Here’s how the rolling stock might look like later R262s R142s R142As R142s R262s R142As R142s R262s R188s 42 street shuttle R262s 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amiri the subway guy Posted July 21, 2021 Share #353 Posted July 21, 2021 On 5/4/2019 at 12:12 AM, SubwayFan3000 said: R62s is on the is mainly because of got R188s, many R142 converted to R188. might get R142s from the if CBTC on Lexington Avenue is Completed, then will get R62. The R62s will be long gone by the time CBTC is completed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted September 2, 2021 Share #354 Posted September 2, 2021 On 1/20/2019 at 1:30 PM, beelinefan said: There will have to be three and four car sets in this order to accommodate the 42nd st No, but 2 tracks for 2 5 car links. The 42nd St Shuttle, currently suspended at this time, is being renovated with 2 track lines. That won’t get done until at least 2025 the latest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted September 2, 2021 Share #355 Posted September 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, FLX9304 said: No, but 2 tracks for 2 5 car links. The 42nd St Shuttle, currently suspended at this time, is being renovated with 2 track lines. That won’t get done until at least 2025 the latest. That's being reconfigured for 6-car trains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted September 2, 2021 Share #356 Posted September 2, 2021 On 7/21/2021 at 11:05 AM, Amiri the subway guy said: The R62s will be long gone by the time CBTC is completed Not all of the R142As got converted to R188s. Just 7211-7590 with cars 6-10 having a “C” car installed between “9” & “10” cars. 7591-7670 went to the to merge with 7671-7810. When they install the CBTC & ATO equipment for the R142As, you can substitute 2 R62As and put them on CBTC ready tracks, for clearance testing. R142s 1101-1250 & 6301-7180 will also get CBTC & ATO equipment installed very soon. With CBTC, T/Os must follow the rules of the road. I saw a large difference between old signaling and CBTC signaling: when trains passes an old signal, the lights turn from red to yellow to stale green. On CBTC, the signals stay red. Signals will flash green lights 5 minutes before a train arrives. Signal lights for CBTC tracking are very far ——— say about 2 to three stations apart or near a cross track signal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted September 2, 2021 Share #357 Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Lex said: That's being reconfigured for 6-car trains. R188 cars could fit in these. (7216-7217-7218-7219-7899-7220) Edited September 2, 2021 by FLX9304 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted September 2, 2021 Share #358 Posted September 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, FLX9304 said: R188 cars could fit in these. (7216-7217-7218-7219-7899-7220) Those are specifically geared toward service. There's no need to spread those thin, especially since the number of 6-car R188 sets far outstrips the number needed for the shuttle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted September 2, 2021 Share #359 Posted September 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, FLX9304 said: Not all of the R142As got converted to R188s. Just 7211-7590 with cars 6-10 having a “C” car installed between “9” & “10” cars. 7591-7670 went to the to merge with 7671-7810. When they install the CBTC & ATO equipment for the R142As, you can substitute 2 R62As and put them on CBTC ready tracks, for clearance testing. R142s 1101-1250 & 6301-7180 will also get CBTC & ATO equipment installed very soon. With CBTC, T/Os must follow the rules of the road. I saw a large difference between old signaling and CBTC signaling: when trains passes an old signal, the lights turn from red to yellow to stale green. On CBTC, the signals stay red. Signals will flash green lights 5 minutes before a train arrives. Signal lights for CBTC tracking are very far ——— say about 2 to three stations apart or near a cross track signal. No kidding, only adding to the point in reference to the R262s replacing the R62s BEFORE CBTC is installed and ready.... That's what he's saying. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted September 2, 2021 Share #360 Posted September 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Lex said: Those are specifically geared toward service. There's no need to spread those thin, especially since the number of 6-car R188 sets far outstrips the number needed for the shuttle. Especially with the R262 having a small amount of 6-car trains, in base order, to cover the shuttle. I feel FLX here is forgetting the actually cars in discussion.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted September 7, 2021 Share #361 Posted September 7, 2021 On 9/2/2021 at 2:11 PM, Metro CSW said: Especially with the R262 having a small amount of 6-car trains, in base order, to cover the shuttle. I feel FLX here is forgetting the actually cars in discussion.... Was it mentioned in the press release that there's an option order of 6 car sets? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 via Mosholu Posted September 7, 2021 Share #362 Posted September 7, 2021 32 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: Was it mentioned in the press release that there's an option order of 6 car sets? They included 6 car sets as part of the base order for the 42 Street . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted September 7, 2021 Share #363 Posted September 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, 4 via Mosholu said: They included 6 car sets as part of the base order for the 42 Street . Now I see it. Are the "C" cars basic trailers with no needed components? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 via Mosholu Posted September 7, 2021 Share #364 Posted September 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: Now I see it. Are the "C" cars basic trailers with no needed components? That's likely the case; its almost the same as how the Flushing C trailer cars were procured for the 188 for eleven car operation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSearleFamily123 Posted December 7, 2021 Share #365 Posted December 7, 2021 I think the R262s should be Australian-built. Two common railcar manufacturers in Australia are UGL (United Group Limited) Rail, whose default EMU/DMU manufacturing plant is in Broadmeadow, New South Wales; and Downer Rail, whose default EMU manufacturing plant is in Cardiff, New South Wales. Here are 2 more of my ideas: Toshiba propulsion system with 2-level SiC-MOSFET–VVVF inverters and permanent magnet synchronous motors, like that of the Tokyo Metro 2000 series (this would be the first propulsion on the New York City Subway supplied by a Japanese company) Mostly stainless steel construction except for ends and rear bonnets (fibreglass) and doors (aluminium) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBTA Posted December 7, 2021 Share #366 Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) Outta the realm of possibilities, I see this being the config once the 262s come in. : 142/A : 262 : 142/A : 188/262 : 262 : 188/142/A : 188/262 42nd Street : Whatever they can put on it. I suppose 188s. Edited December 7, 2021 by NBTA Forgot about the shuttle for a sec. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted December 7, 2021 Share #367 Posted December 7, 2021 7 hours ago, NBTA said: Outta the realm of possibilities, I see this being the config once the 262s come in. : 142/A : 262 : 142/A : 188/262 : 262 : 188/142/A : 188/262 42nd Street : Whatever they can put on it. I suppose 188s. The R188s (including the converted R142As) are meant for Flushing service. The is in no position to need R262s. In addition, the base order for the R262s consists of 504 cars, and when considering that the R188s are sufficient for their purpose, the only possibility is that some R262s are for the shuttle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Posted December 8, 2021 Share #368 Posted December 8, 2021 13 hours ago, NBTA said: Outta the realm of possibilities, I see this being the config once the 262s come in. : 142/A : 262 : 142/A : 188/262 : 262 : 188/142/A : 188/262 42nd Street : Whatever they can put on it. I suppose 188s. trains having R262 wouldn't be possible since they have the R188s in their disposal. And the 42nd Street Probably will be either having either R262s (Or some other fleet from the IRT) on Westchester or Livonia Yard. The wouldn't be having R188s from the it doesn't makes sense. It's makes more sense if they either have their R142/A's upgraded for Eastern's/Lexington's or Jerome's CBTC. If R262s are gonna be assigned there for reliability or extra service and that's a go-go. the situation. It's kinda possible for them to have R262s to push out their R142s for either 1. If some becomes LED either be transferred to the 6 along with some assigned R262s. 2. or them being transferred to the to probably kick out some R62/A's the wouldn't be getting any R142A's. Slightly because of the still keeping them. transferred somewhere else. Maybe they'll be transferred to the but its highly unlikely. And remember that the R188s aren't going to any IRT lines other than the only. Also and situation. If Jerome or E 180th/Unionport wants to send some R142/A's on those lines since they're gonna be getting some of the R262 order then alright. Its highly likely that they'll be assigned R262's either way. P.S: Just not to start something about R262s Assigned to each fleet. It's my way of how it can work out (Also the won't be getting any assigned R262s due to them being only on that line for Flushing's CBTC so don't count any left R142A's to be R188's the R188's are only equipped with only Flushings CBTC Signaling. If R142/A's are being upgraded they won't be changed into any other R(Number) type stuff. Just to keep notice.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted December 10, 2021 Share #369 Posted December 10, 2021 On 12/7/2021 at 8:35 PM, Jacob said: trains having R262 wouldn't be possible since they have the R188s in their disposal. And the 42nd Street Probably will be either having either R262s (Or some other fleet from the IRT) on Westchester or Livonia Yard. The wouldn't be having R188s from the it doesn't makes sense. It's makes more sense if they either have their R142/A's upgraded for Eastern's/Lexington's or Jerome's CBTC. If R262s are gonna be assigned there for reliability or extra service and that's a go-go. the situation. It's kinda possible for them to have R262s to push out their R142s for either 1. If some becomes LED either be transferred to the 6 along with some assigned R262s. 2. or them being transferred to the to probably kick out some R62/A's the wouldn't be getting any R142A's. Slightly because of the still keeping them. transferred somewhere else. Maybe they'll be transferred to the but its highly unlikely. And remember that the R188s aren't going to any IRT lines other than the only. Also and situation. If Jerome or E 180th/Unionport wants to send some R142/A's on those lines since they're gonna be getting some of the R262 order then alright. Its highly likely that they'll be assigned R262's either way. P.S: Just not to start something about R262s Assigned to each fleet. It's my way of how it can work out (Also the won't be getting any assigned R262s due to them being only on that line for Flushing's CBTC so don't count any left R142A's to be R188's the R188's are only equipped with only Flushings CBTC Signaling. If R142/A's are being upgraded they won't be changed into any other R(Number) type stuff. Just to keep notice.) A more probable assignment for the A Division could be: - 430 R142s (lets say 6301-6730) - R262 (for interchange with the ) - 220 R142As (7591-7810) + 100 R142s (7081-7180) - R262s - R262 (for interchange with the ) - 500 R142s (lets say 6731-7080, 1101-1250) 42 St - 30 R262s (or 24 R262s, reducing spare factor by one six-car train) - As-is with R188s 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted December 11, 2021 Share #370 Posted December 11, 2021 But in reality the R142/As may go to 7 Avenue lines and the R262s will be for The Lex line and 42nd Street Shuttle. Subject to change of course. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted December 21, 2021 Share #371 Posted December 21, 2021 Speculate...............Speculate..........................Speculate......................... Where they go will be determined by NYCT suits. All this is pure speculation. There will be some happy rail fans, and some pissed railfans over their assignment and the re-assignments of R142/R142A's. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticTransit Posted January 13, 2022 Share #372 Posted January 13, 2022 Here's what I think the assignments are going to be: - R142 - R262 - R142 - R262 + Leftover R142/A's - R262 - R142/A - Stays with the R188's (cuz duh) - R262 I think the R262's are going to the Express Lines, since they are the ones that really need the extra capacity (and the newest stock). If this does happen, then the Locals would probably get the R142/A's in return. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted January 13, 2022 Share #373 Posted January 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, MysticTransit said: Here's what I think the assignments are going to be: - R142 - R262 - R142 - R262 + Leftover R142/A's - R262 - R142/A - Stays with the R188's (cuz duh) - R262 I think the R262's are going to the Express Lines, since they are the ones that really need the extra capacity (and the newest stock). If this does happen, then the Locals would probably get the R142/A's in return. This literally makes the most logical sense and i don't even be on this side of the forums. The doesn't need R262s, it just needs an NTT for CBTC purposes. The and will share fleets, are two of the longest and heaviest lines so that's obvious, and the are priority. The is maintaining the new 6-car formation, and the R142/As will be distributed to the and as needed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted January 14, 2022 Share #374 Posted January 14, 2022 7 hours ago, MysticTransit said: Here's what I think the assignments are going to be: - R142 - R262 - R142 - R262 + Leftover R142/A's - R262 - R142/A - Stays with the R188's (cuz duh) - R262 I think the R262's are going to the Express Lines, since they are the ones that really need the extra capacity (and the newest stock). If this does happen, then the Locals would probably get the R142/A's in return. You do realize there aren't a lot of R142A's left right? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticTransit Posted January 14, 2022 Share #375 Posted January 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Lawrence St said: You do realize there aren't a lot of R142A's left right? I do realize that, however, I also see the MTA putting a lot of R142's on the , leaving some spare for the . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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