Kamen Rider Posted June 26, 2023 Share #351 Posted June 26, 2023 technically, as I understand it, it's supposed to go off who is scheduled to go first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABOGbrooklyn Posted June 27, 2023 Share #352 Posted June 27, 2023 So why are Fs running local at night still? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted June 27, 2023 Share #353 Posted June 27, 2023 19 hours ago, N6 Limited said: Does CBTC decide which southbound gets the lineup at 75th Ave ( when the E is running full express)? Trains are localized at Kew southbound and Technically whatever train is first there gets the line up into CTL... Yet Once in a While if there is No Echo at Kew CTL will "line up" a Fox at 75th ave.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted June 27, 2023 Share #354 Posted June 27, 2023 16 hours ago, ABOGbrooklyn said: So why are Fs running local at night still? Because they are running around the R layups. These trains normally would be parked on the east end of the line, but that is the section they are installing CBTC on right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABOGbrooklyn Posted June 27, 2023 Share #355 Posted June 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Kamen Rider said: Because they are running around the R layups. These trains normally would be parked on the east end of the line, but that is the section they are installing CBTC on right now. Why do s need to be layed up if Jamaica Yard is available? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted June 28, 2023 Share #356 Posted June 28, 2023 33 minutes ago, ABOGbrooklyn said: Why do s need to be layed up if Jamaica Yard is available? JYD doesn't have enough storage space for those trains. Case in point, during whiteout winter storms when outside service is suspended, they park as many trains as possible on the express tracks. Also, it would be a PITA to get them all out for the morning rush from the yard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABOGbrooklyn Posted June 28, 2023 Share #357 Posted June 28, 2023 6 hours ago, danielhg121 said: JYD doesn't have enough storage space for those trains. Case in point, during whiteout winter storms when outside service is suspended, they park as many trains as possible on the express tracks. Also, it would be a PITA to get them all out for the morning rush from the yard. So.. basically there was no difference from when the went to Astoria..? Should have never moved the from Astoria.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted June 28, 2023 Share #358 Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, ABOGbrooklyn said: So.. basically there was no difference from when the went to Astoria..? Should have never moved the from Astoria.. That was a decision made by people who don't work down here anymore.. Also now with CBTC R160 ten car units need to stay in Jamaica Yard... Edited June 28, 2023 by RTOMan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted June 28, 2023 Share #359 Posted June 28, 2023 On 6/26/2023 at 2:47 PM, Kamen Rider said: technically, as I understand it, it's supposed to go off who is scheduled to go first. Not always the case trust me... I was supposed to go before that Echo Yesterday and i sat... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habbyy Posted July 16, 2023 Share #360 Posted July 16, 2023 Is there an updated list of which lines/section of lines that are currently CBTC compatible? I'm not talking about the trains themselves, but the line. I know that currently 7 and L lines are currently fully cbtc (the train and the line and it runs in CBTC auto), and I also know that "We're in the final stages of rolling out CBTC along Queens Blvd and are in the process of implementing it between Kew Gardens-Union Tpke and Jamaica-179 St." other then that, are there no cbtc ready lines other then the work they are doing? aka f train in brooklyn, 8th ave and qbvld? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted July 17, 2023 Share #361 Posted July 17, 2023 5 hours ago, habbyy said: Is there an updated list of which lines/section of lines that are currently CBTC compatible? I'm not talking about the trains themselves, but the line. I know that currently 7 and L lines are currently fully cbtc (the train and the line and it runs in CBTC auto), and I also know that "We're in the final stages of rolling out CBTC along Queens Blvd and are in the process of implementing it between Kew Gardens-Union Tpke and Jamaica-179 St." other then that, are there no cbtc ready lines other then the work they are doing? aka f train in brooklyn, 8th ave and qbvld? I made this chart showing CBTC Progression by Track Mileage earlier this year, hope it has the answer you find: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rJ6Pm3XYACHCyMT-WdW8PSEiLuGckFw4rCb_xNtySqo/edit But Right Now as you said, CBTC is compatible in the following sections: Canarsie - 8th Avenue - ROCK PARK Flushing - 34th/11th - Main Street Queens Blvd - 50th/8th; 47-50th/Rockefeller Center; 21st-QB to Union Turnpike 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted July 19, 2023 Share #362 Posted July 19, 2023 Another interesting thing.. Now once the train enters 21st NB and Punches the Homesignal displays a CBTC aspect, as well as all the other signals on T2 track leading up to X544 homesignal just south of 36th street.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulk88 Posted July 19, 2023 Share #363 Posted July 19, 2023 On 6/7/2023 at 12:03 AM, QM1to6Ave said: Im curious about something...when I take the (E), I see the signals show green or yellow over green until the train is approaching, and then they switch to flashing green. Is there a reason for that setup, rather than having it just flash green the entire time? If enough distance between trains gathers, CBTC automatically turns off and reverts to bypass/legacy automatic block signals. For MOW trains, etc. But the track circuits are super long for CBTC. Often its interlocking to interlocking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestrictOnTheHanger Posted July 21, 2023 Share #364 Posted July 21, 2023 On 7/19/2023 at 10:50 AM, RTOMan said: Another interesting thing.. Now once the train enters 21st NB and Punches the Homesignal displays a CBTC aspect, as well as all the other signals on T2 track leading up to X544 homesignal just south of 36th street.. Noticed this on Tuesday coming home from work... Does CBTC still enforce the old one and two shot GTs on the curves right before the interlocking? Wasnt easy to determine because the home signal was at stop anyway for a crossing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted July 22, 2023 Share #365 Posted July 22, 2023 19 hours ago, RestrictOnTheHanger said: Noticed this on Tuesday coming home from work... Does CBTC still enforce the old one and two shot GTs on the curves right before the interlocking? Wasnt easy to determine because the home signal was at stop anyway for a crossing Everything is displaying a CBTC aspect up to the Homesignal... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted July 22, 2023 Share #366 Posted July 22, 2023 On 7/19/2023 at 1:12 PM, bulk88 said: If enough distance between trains gathers, CBTC automatically turns off and reverts to bypass/legacy automatic block signals. For MOW trains, etc. But the track circuits are super long for CBTC. Often its interlocking to interlocking. Non reporting trains are now a headache for us Corridor Folks.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted July 22, 2023 Share #367 Posted July 22, 2023 Like on Monday when they let TCG 4 loose in the corridor and backed everyone up. I was three behind on my last trip (Echo job) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted July 22, 2023 Share #368 Posted July 22, 2023 On 7/19/2023 at 1:12 PM, bulk88 said: If enough distance between trains gathers, CBTC automatically turns off and reverts to bypass/legacy automatic block signals. For MOW trains, etc. But the track circuits are super long for CBTC. Often its interlocking to interlocking. So it's just like Metro-Norths signal system, except it uses the transponders rather then code in the rails? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted July 22, 2023 Share #369 Posted July 22, 2023 (edited) On 6/28/2023 at 2:42 AM, ABOGbrooklyn said: So.. basically there was no difference from when the went to Astoria..? Should have never moved the from Astoria.. Well actually I’m not 100% sure if those overnight layups end up running on the for the next rush hour. Maybe they end up running on the since they’re technically supposed to be the trains that normally laid up between Kew Gardens Unión Turnpike and Parsons Blvd, and would make sense for those trains to just go to 179 St or Jamaica Center and come back as the or , since I’m assuming the same crews pick up those trains for the start of the morning rush, and that most of the s would come from the Coney Island Yard layup or from Jamaica Yard itself, inserting themselves into service at 71 Av immediately. Can someone please comment on this to see if the logic is correct. Edited July 22, 2023 by darkstar8983 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted July 22, 2023 Share #370 Posted July 22, 2023 (edited) 56 minutes ago, darkstar8983 said: Well actually I’m not 100% sure if those overnight layups end up running on the for the next rush hour. Maybe they end up running on the since they’re technically supposed to be the trains that normally laid up between Kew Gardens Unión Turnpike and Parsons Blvd, and would make sense for those trains to just go to 179 St or Jamaica Center and come back as the or , since I’m assuming the same crews pick up those trains for the start of the morning rush, and that most of the s would come from the Coney Island Yard layup or from Jamaica Yard itself, inserting themselves into service at 71 Av immediately. Can someone please comment on this to see if the logic is correct. I believe any Romeo Laid Up south of CTL or at CTL on 4 track is a Romeo they just relay for service at CTL... Edited July 22, 2023 by RTOMan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texassubwayfan555 Posted July 26, 2023 Share #371 Posted July 26, 2023 Why is this thread labeled as Systemwide CBTC when CBTC is not even planned to cover the whole subway system? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted July 26, 2023 Share #372 Posted July 26, 2023 3 hours ago, texassubwayfan555 said: Why is this thread labeled as Systemwide CBTC when CBTC is not even planned to cover the whole subway system? As opposed to separate threads about CBTC for every segment of track 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reptile Posted July 27, 2023 Share #373 Posted July 27, 2023 5 hours ago, texassubwayfan555 said: Why is this thread labeled as Systemwide CBTC when CBTC is not even planned to cover the whole subway system? It is eventually planned I think, they're doing 8th and 6th then Lexington and Broadway then 7th. After that all the other lines will get it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulturious Posted July 27, 2023 Share #374 Posted July 27, 2023 4 hours ago, texassubwayfan555 said: Why is this thread labeled as Systemwide CBTC when CBTC is not even planned to cover the whole subway system? You must be on something if you think CBTC isn't planned to cover the whole system. We already have plans for a lot of lines to have it implemented in the next 10 years or so, 8 Av is already acquiring it along with 6 Av and Crosstown set to receive and I think Fulton is also next apparently, but don't quote me on that. Lexington shouldn't be that far behind along with Astoria. The only reason other lines like say 4 Av in Brooklyn or WPR in the Bronx or even Brooklyn-Broadway since these two lines already are fully NTT's are not getting CBTC is because they aren't the priority and implementation takes a while. We already seen how long it took for QBL to receive especially with the f**k up of Culver CBTC taking even longer to complete and 8 Av CBTC isn't even finished either. These things are going to take years to even decades to finish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reptile Posted July 27, 2023 Share #375 Posted July 27, 2023 What I'm wondering is if there's any plans to install CBTC on the lines, since them along with the will be the last lines without CBTC after Culver/8th/6th/Lexington/Astoria which are all planned to get CBTC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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