QM1to6Ave Posted October 22, 2017 Share #1 Posted October 22, 2017 I was on the Q46 this week, and saw something pretty disturbing. The B/O closed the front door on a lady's arm, didn't notice, and started turning the wheel and got ready to merge into traffic (he started picking his foot off the brake). If he had moved the bus, this lady's arm would have been broken or worse. Luckily, she started yelling and the B/O was visibly shaken. Do the LFS's and Orion 3G's (and any other bus for that matter) have safety sensors or whatever like the NTT trains, so that if a door is not completely shut, the bus can't move? If there are sensors, how sensitive are they (like, if there was a backpack strap stuck in the door, would it detect it)? I also was on a QM1 that got into a nasty fender-bender this week, so it was not my favorite bus travel week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog14 Posted October 22, 2017 Share #2 Posted October 22, 2017 I don't think they have a locking safety system. Those doors are held closed by air pressure I believe (and they are easy to open when there is no air in the system). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucey Posted October 22, 2017 Share #3 Posted October 22, 2017 I'm pretty sure that the buses can be driven with the doors open, and that the sensors only prevent opening the door when it's in motion. So if I'm right, the BO would've taken the lady's arm if he didn't open the door again. Fun fact: someone on the S52 Friday got mad we were stopped waiting for a truck to move at St Mark's and Westervelt, and punched the backdoor open when the BO wouldn't open the door. When standing in the rear well, be careful to not lean on the door because if the door system is compromised, those doors swing open on every turn or braking attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted October 22, 2017 Author Share #4 Posted October 22, 2017 56 minutes ago, Deucey said: I'm pretty sure that the buses can be driven with the doors open, and that the sensors only prevent opening the door when it's in motion. So if I'm right, the BO would've taken the lady's arm if he didn't open the door again. Fun fact: someone on the S52 Friday got mad we were stopped waiting for a truck to move at St Mark's and Westervelt, and punched the backdoor open when the BO wouldn't open the door. When standing in the rear well, be careful to not lean on the door because if the door system is compromised, those doors swing open on every turn or braking attempt. Jesus, that's scary. Definitely makes me appreciate the subways more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 22, 2017 Share #5 Posted October 22, 2017 20 hours ago, QM1to6Ave said: I was on the Q46 this week, and saw something pretty disturbing. The B/O closed the front door on a lady's arm, didn't notice, and started turning the wheel and got ready to merge into traffic (he started picking his foot off the brake). If he had moved the bus, this lady's arm would have been broken or worse. Luckily, she started yelling and the B/O was visibly shaken. Do the LFS's and Orion 3G's (and any other bus for that matter) have safety sensors or whatever like the NTT trains, so that if a door is not completely shut, the bus can't move? If there are sensors, how sensitive are they (like, if there was a backpack strap stuck in the door, would it detect it)? I also was on a QM1 that got into a nasty fender-bender this week, so it was not my favorite bus travel week... What I've been seeing more and more of late (especially on SBS lines) are people trying to get on the bus and the driver closing the doors on them. It happened most recently on the M79. The lady was trying to get on at 5th and 79th. The doors were about to close on her once and she yelled out and stepped back from the bus. Driver then opened the doors again and she once again attempted to step on with him trying to close the doors before she could get on so she yelled out again, and the cycle repeated itself with her finally able to board. It was almost comical to be honest. You're supposed to be able to board through any door, but apparently the drivers don't always look at all of them before closing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted October 26, 2017 Share #6 Posted October 26, 2017 Plenty of buses allow the bus to go with the front door open. It's only the back door that has the safety mechanism. Ultimately it's too be expected that the driver should make sure the doors are properly closed before pulling out. Hence why they're given the ability to drive with the doors open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted October 26, 2017 Share #7 Posted October 26, 2017 The Xcelsiors has sensors in the front door that should recycle the doors if there's something caught in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted October 26, 2017 Share #8 Posted October 26, 2017 While we're on the topic of doors, those slow-closing back doors often slow down service. On older models like the O5s, the back door closes quickly and the B/O can pull off. On the newer models, it takes longer to close, which often results in the B/Os missing lights because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share #9 Posted October 27, 2017 21 hours ago, SevenEleven said: The Xcelsiors has sensors in the front door that should recycle the doors if there's something caught in between. That is good to know. This was an LFS, which apparently does not have those sensors or they were not working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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