Around the Horn Posted April 22, 2017 Share #1 Posted April 22, 2017 (Can we get this pinned as a general thread for the ESI, now that the ESI is moving into the second package and preparing for the third?) This month's Capital Program meeting delves into more detail on the ESI (Enhanced Station Initiative)... As you already know, 53rd Street has already closed, Bay Ridge Av will close April 29th and Prospect Avenue will close June 5th. The RFP for "Package 2" was awarded April 14th, and I assume it will start sometime in the fall/winter. The RFP for "Package 3" is being prepared and will go out in the next few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted April 22, 2017 Share #2 Posted April 22, 2017 Finally Central Park West stations get some attention. 72nd and 86th Street are incredibly disgusting. They need an elevator or escalator at those stations too. Those stairs are a B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share #3 Posted April 22, 2017 Finally Central Park West stations get some attention. 72nd and 86th Street are incredibly disgusting. They need an elevator or escalator at those stations too. Those stairs are a B. I would definitely agree there. 81 Street is the class of that line and the rest are not up to snuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucey Posted April 22, 2017 Share #4 Posted April 22, 2017 What's so different about ESI vs previous station renovations? USB ports and LED screens? And is this faster than normal station renovation? And if so, why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share #5 Posted April 22, 2017 What's so different about ESI vs previous station renovations? USB ports and LED screens? And is this faster than normal station renovation? And if so, why is that? Yeah basically. The idea is that the station is closed for six months and the renovation is a design-build contract. There is also improved signage on street level and in the station and new covered entrances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted April 22, 2017 Share #6 Posted April 22, 2017 I would definitely agree there. 81 Street is the class of that line and the rest are not up to snuff. That's actually the only station I use up there. If I'm on 86th, I'll walk down to 81st. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted April 22, 2017 Share #7 Posted April 22, 2017 What's so different about ESI vs previous station renovations? USB ports and LED screens? And is this faster than normal station renovation? And if so, why is that? From what I understand ESI is supposed to standardize new station renovations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted April 22, 2017 Share #8 Posted April 22, 2017 IRT isn't getting any love? Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share #9 Posted April 22, 2017 IRT isn't getting any love? Wow. Take a closer look at Manhattan and the Bronx. 28 St, 3 Av-138 St, E 149 St, Brook Av and Westchester Sq on the , Pelham Pkwy on the , and 145 St on the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3F Posted April 23, 2017 Share #10 Posted April 23, 2017 Huh, they're going to rehab Richmond Valley on the SIR. I wonder if they're going to lengthen the platforms to 300 feet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share #11 Posted April 23, 2017 Huh, they're going to rehab Richmond Valley on the SIR. I wonder if they're going to lengthen the platforms to 300 feet... I'd love to see them do that but it would require an overpass to be completely removed, as there are two staircases at each end of the station which take up the full width of the platform. The ROW is also not wide enough to move the stairs further away from the tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3F Posted April 23, 2017 Share #12 Posted April 23, 2017 I'd love to see them do that but it would require an overpass to be completely removed, as there are two staircases at each end of the station which take up the full width of the platform. The ROW is also not wide enough to move the stairs further away from the tracks. Actually, no. The overpass at the north end wouldn't conflict with a potential platform extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted April 23, 2017 Share #13 Posted April 23, 2017 Are they planning to "re-open" the 163rd St Station? The north half is closed essentially Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share #14 Posted April 23, 2017 Actually, no. The overpass at the north end wouldn't conflict with a potential platform extension. I'm talking about the south end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted April 23, 2017 Share #15 Posted April 23, 2017 Take a closer look at Manhattan and the Bronx. 28 St, 3 Av-138 St, E 149 St, Brook Av and Westchester Sq on the , Pelham Pkwy on the , and 145 St on the . Did not see that sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3F Posted April 23, 2017 Share #16 Posted April 23, 2017 I'm talking about the south end They could just extend the platform to the north... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted April 23, 2017 Share #17 Posted April 23, 2017 (Can we get this pinned as a general thread for the ESI, now that the ESI is moving into the second package and preparing for the third?) This month's Capital Program meeting delves into more detail on the ESI (Enhanced Station Initiative)... As you already know, 53rd Street has already closed, Bay Ridge Av will close April 29th and Prospect Avenue will close June 5th. The RFP for "Package 2" was awarded April 14th, and I assume it will start sometime in the fall/winter. The RFP for "Package 3" is being prepared and will go out in the next few months. Would the Package 3 rehabs mean R.I.P. to the IND mosaic tiles? Take a closer look at Manhattan and the Bronx. 28 St, 3 Av-138 St, E 149 St, Brook Av and Westchester Sq on the , Pelham Pkwy on the , and 145 St on the .IINM 34 St-Penn Station on the IRT side will be included as well at some point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3F Posted April 23, 2017 Share #18 Posted April 23, 2017 Would the Package 3 rehabs mean R.I.P. to the IND mosaic tiles? From the renderings, it appears that the 70s refrigerator tiles aren't even being removed from the BMT 4th Avenue stations . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted April 23, 2017 Share #19 Posted April 23, 2017 I also created a thread on this. Moderators, could that thread be merged in here? Are they planning to "re-open" the 163rd St Station? The north half is closed essentially That is one of the most disgusting stations on the subway system. It smells like an uncleaned bathroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted April 23, 2017 Share #20 Posted April 23, 2017 From the renderings, it appears that the 70s refrigerator tiles aren't even being removed from the BMT 4th Avenue stations .LMAO@refrigerator tiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted April 23, 2017 Share #21 Posted April 23, 2017 This topic is now pinned. Please refrain from straying off-topic. Looking at phase 2, I really hope they don't intend on closing all those Astoria stops at the same time. The local buses will not be able to handle the crowds trying to connect with the and at Queensboro Plaza or Astoria Blvd. Not to mention it really throws off the passenger distribution at those two stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted April 24, 2017 Share #22 Posted April 24, 2017 Do they generally close all directions of all stations at the same time? Maybe they could alternate direction of closing at each station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted April 24, 2017 Share #23 Posted April 24, 2017 This topic is now pinned. Please refrain from straying off-topic. Looking at phase 2, I really hope they don't intend on closing all those Astoria stops at the same time. The local buses will not be able to handle the crowds trying to connect with the and at Queensboro Plaza or Astoria Blvd. Not to mention it really throws off the passenger distribution at those two stations. Shuttle buses are a must. The Q102 can't even handle 10% of the ridership, and the can't in good conscience expect to have people wait 30 minutes for a Q102 or walk to the Q100 to the west or Q101 to the east. I doubt they'll close all the El stations at the same time though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted April 24, 2017 Author Share #24 Posted April 24, 2017 Shuttle buses are a must. The Q102 can't even handle 10% of the ridership, and the can't in good conscience expect to have people wait 30 minutes for a Q102 or walk to the Q100 to the west or Q101 to the east. I doubt they'll close all the El stations at the same time though. I hope so, but the way they are handling BMT 4th Avenue is not promising... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agar io Posted April 24, 2017 Share #25 Posted April 24, 2017 Looks like the 4th Ave stations are all being closed simultaneously. Will this also be the case for the Astoria Line stations (since they are all local stations)? Additionally, how will the MTA deal with awarding packages to stations that are the only ones on their respective lines to be renovated under ESI? For instance, 28 St (only station on Lex Av Line), 145 St (only one on Lenox Line), Pelham Pkwy (only one on Dyre Av Line). Finally, I'm curious how the MTA will handle the 23 St renovation, since they have to keep the entrances open for the PATH, unless the PATH stations are somehow shut down too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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