Cait Sith Posted April 15, 2023 Share #4451 Posted April 15, 2023 46 minutes ago, Ale188 said: I'm absolutely mad that the 211as have to redo the 30-day test again. Now we have to wait LONGER for the production cars to get delivered! They're currently getting delivered. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZthefoamer Posted April 15, 2023 Share #4452 Posted April 15, 2023 I doubt the delivery is delayed by this, but them being sent into service probably is, which is a pity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ale188 Posted April 15, 2023 Share #4453 Posted April 15, 2023 Okay! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulturious Posted April 15, 2023 Share #4454 Posted April 15, 2023 55 minutes ago, Ale188 said: I'm absolutely mad that the 211as have to redo the 30-day test again. Now we have to wait LONGER for the production cars to get delivered! We already have either 2 or 3 full sets of R211A production cars on property currently waiting for the R211A Pilot to pass the the 30-day test. We will still be seeing more of them coming in, in the mean time those production cars are just testing and will enter service soon after the pilot passes at the same time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted April 15, 2023 Share #4455 Posted April 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, Vulturious said: We already have either 2 or 3 full sets of R211A production cars on property currently waiting for the R211A Pilot to pass the the 30-day test. We will still be seeing more of them coming in, in the mean time those production cars are just testing and will enter service soon after the pilot passes at the same time. Let's be patient. Hopefully, by July the A will most likely be 50% NTTs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABCDEFGJLMNQRSSSWZ Posted April 15, 2023 Share #4456 Posted April 15, 2023 8 hours ago, AZthefoamer said: My hope is that they rotate the R211T around a bunch of lines and see where it works best. I don't think there's a substantial difference between how the R211 and R211T run, it's more that the R211T is higher capacity. I'd have to imagine the MTA has a pretty good sense of crowding if not internal crowding data they could use to assign trains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted April 16, 2023 Share #4457 Posted April 16, 2023 8 hours ago, Ale188 said: I'm absolutely mad that the 211as have to redo the 30-day test again. Now we have to wait LONGER for the production cars to get delivered! The MTA is prob the most eager one to roll as many into service as possible but they have to make sure that quality and standards are met and that the cars are safe and a wise investment. Once it passes the 30-day, I’m sure more will be pressed into service asap. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomRider0101 Posted April 16, 2023 Share #4458 Posted April 16, 2023 17 hours ago, Ale188 said: I'm absolutely mad that the 211as have to redo the 30-day test again. Now we have to wait LONGER for the production cars to get delivered! The cars are already being delivered. They just have to wait for the pilot to pass the test & then they can enter service. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZthefoamer Posted April 16, 2023 Share #4459 Posted April 16, 2023 So as soon as it passes we will see the production cars in service? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomRider0101 Posted April 16, 2023 Share #4460 Posted April 16, 2023 Most likely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40 to 241st Posted April 16, 2023 Share #4461 Posted April 16, 2023 Ar 3 hours ago, RandomRider0101 said: The cars are already being delivered. They just have to wait for the pilot to pass the test & then they can enter service. I thought the r211 is already in service 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZthefoamer Posted April 16, 2023 Share #4462 Posted April 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, 40 to 241st said: I thought the r211 is already in service Yes, it is, but there is only one test set that must pass testing before additional sets may enter service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ale188 Posted April 16, 2023 Share #4463 Posted April 16, 2023 i can't wait for what's in store next week! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulturious Posted April 16, 2023 Share #4464 Posted April 16, 2023 17 minutes ago, Ale188 said: i can't wait for what's in store next week! What do you mean by that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZthefoamer Posted April 16, 2023 Share #4465 Posted April 16, 2023 40 minutes ago, Ale188 said: i can't wait for what's in store next week! Do we have any word on new car deliveries this week or the next? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted April 16, 2023 Share #4466 Posted April 16, 2023 Perhaps I’m not getting this, but why are the production cars being delivered if it hasn’t passed the test yet? What if god forbid there’s a major issue on the pilot that needs to be fixed at the factory but 60+ production cars are already here? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZthefoamer Posted April 17, 2023 Share #4467 Posted April 17, 2023 Maybe such that they can complete testing and be in service as soon as possible. Obviously, they could be sent back but that is unlikely at this point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted April 17, 2023 Share #4468 Posted April 17, 2023 51 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: Perhaps I’m not getting this, but why are the production cars being delivered if it hasn’t passed the test yet? What if god forbid there’s a major issue on the pilot that needs to be fixed at the factory but 60+ production cars are already here? I doubt that something big could happen with the r211's. The pilot r211 train did 2 years of testing unlike the pilot train for the r179's, which only did 1 year of testing. Even the pilot r160 did 1 year of testing and it performed better than the pilot r179's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomRider0101 Posted April 17, 2023 Share #4469 Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lawrence St said: Perhaps I’m not getting this, but why are the production cars being delivered if it hasn’t passed the test yet? What if god forbid there’s a major issue on the pilot that needs to be fixed at the factory but 60+ production cars are already here? They're delivering the production units now so they can be prepped to enter service as soon as the pilot train passes. Any issues on the pilot set should be addressed on the production sets before they arrive. That's the point of the 1+ year of testing. Edited April 17, 2023 by RandomRider0101 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ale188 Posted April 17, 2023 Share #4470 Posted April 17, 2023 12 hours ago, Vulturious said: What do you mean by that? The First 5 R211S (es) are getting delivered next week from 4/24-4/29! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZthefoamer Posted April 17, 2023 Share #4471 Posted April 17, 2023 How long will testing take for the R211S? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ale188 Posted April 17, 2023 Share #4472 Posted April 17, 2023 38 minutes ago, AZthefoamer said: How long will testing take for the R211S? If I had to guess, maybe about 3-6 months. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted April 17, 2023 Share #4473 Posted April 17, 2023 13 hours ago, Lawrence St said: Perhaps I’m not getting this, but why are the production cars being delivered if it hasn’t passed the test yet? What if god forbid there’s a major issue on the pilot that needs to be fixed at the factory but 60+ production cars are already here? we've been testing the pilot train for over a year now. If there was something THAT drastically wrong with it, we would have found it by now. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted April 17, 2023 Share #4474 Posted April 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Kamen Rider said: we've been testing the pilot train for over a year now. If there was something THAT drastically wrong with it, we would have found it by now. And nobody knows for sure 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted April 17, 2023 Share #4475 Posted April 17, 2023 There’s too much speculating going on here. That has to stop because nobody knows what’s going on, only the car department’s heads knows. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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