R32 3838 Posted September 2 Share #8576 Posted September 2 43 minutes ago, Comrade96 said: the Queens Corridor is also the only place where they can actually test CBTC on the 211s i know that, that's why i said testing in terms of CBTC and etc. They also did cbtc testing with the R179s. I was bringing up how they did more than just test CBTC in queens. They trained the yard masters, barn crew, T/O's and etc on these cars. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade96 Posted September 2 Share #8577 Posted September 2 1 minute ago, R32 3838 said: i know that, that's why i said testing in terms of CBTC and etc. They also did cbtc testing with the R179s. I was bringing up how they did more than just test CBTC in queens. They trained the yard masters, barn crew, T/O's and etc on these cars. fair enough 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted September 2 Share #8578 Posted September 2 1 hour ago, TrainGamingKing9928 said: This car assignments bulletin from June/July 2024 strangely says that there were 30 R211A’s (3 full length trains) assigned to the : https://erausa.org/pdf/bulletin/2020s/2024/2024-07-bulletin.pdf Did the higher-ups change their minds about that? .......Oh my god. Even for June and July, there's so many typos on that god-awful chart LOL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted September 2 Share #8579 Posted September 2 (edited) delete Edited September 2 by Metro CSW 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TrainGamingKing9928 Posted September 2 Share #8581 Posted September 2 2 hours ago, R32 3838 said: It's funny that some of you guys say it's a rumor when they were sending all the queens crews to pitkin for R211 training. 1 hour ago, R32 3838 said: I was bringing up how they did more than just test CBTC in queens. They trained the yard masters, barn crew, T/O's and etc on these cars. Not sure if I have the right idea here, but given this information, I can assume it's just that a time period for the in-service CBTC testing on QBL to happen wasn't decided yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted September 2 Share #8582 Posted September 2 14 hours ago, R32 3838 said: R211A's will start showing up on the at some point. As for the R211s going to Jamaica it's possible they might wait until they get option I cars which should be in a few months. I doubt they did all of that training and testing in queens for nothing. The talk was Jamaica get some of the base order while some R160s go to the for a brief time to introduce the R211s in revenue service on the and lines to see how they preform in passenger service before giving them a large fleet of them. But some things are subject to change. They probably better off waiting until the and gets their fleet of R211s first then move on to Jamaica. It's funny that some of you guys say it's a rumor when they were sending all the queens crews to pitkin for R211 training. I wouldn't be surprised. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Concourse gets all Siemens r160's. It won't cover the whole "D" fleet, but it will cover the majority. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted September 2 Share #8583 Posted September 2 (edited) 16 hours ago, TrainGamingKing9928 said: This car assignments bulletin from June/July 2024 strangely says that there were 30 R211A’s (3 full length trains) assigned to the : https://erausa.org/pdf/bulletin/2020s/2024/2024-07-bulletin.pdf Did the higher-ups change their minds about that? Car assignments are only a guide. As long as the total number of trains are on the line, it's all good. Do you think the exact number of R46/68/68A trains are on the N/Q/W lines as published? No way! The yardmasters have enough trouble making full service, let alone having to have the "proper" number of R46/R179/R211 trains on the A/C lines during the rush as published by the suits at 2 Broadway. Edited September 2 by Bill from Maspeth 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted September 2 Share #8584 Posted September 2 (edited) 16 hours ago, Comrade96 said: this is from ERA, I wouldnt exactly be using them as a source for up to date car assignments ERA gets their information from 2 Broadway. How? Because many of the officers and members work for NYCT at the various office buildings. Edited September 2 by Bill from Maspeth 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted September 2 Share #8585 Posted September 2 14 hours ago, Metro CSW said: .......Oh my god. Even for June and July, there's so many typos on that god-awful chart LOL As I said they are not typos. The car assignments are only a guide. As long as full rush hour service is provided on the lines, it's all good. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted September 2 Share #8586 Posted September 2 2 hours ago, Bill from Maspeth said: As I said they are not typos. the G is listed as having R160B1s during the AM rush and R160B2s during the PM rush... pretty sure that qualifies as a typo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted September 3 Share #8587 Posted September 3 On 9/2/2024 at 4:45 PM, Kamen Rider said: the G is listed as having R160B1s during the AM rush and R160B2s during the PM rush... pretty sure that qualifies as a typo. Yes. Even without the typo, it's ludicrous that a yard dispatcher is going to follow the R160 variations as published to assign to the lines. An R160 is an R160 to the yard dispatcher. All he/she is concerned at JYD is not to mix the Siemens and Alstoms in the same train (although there are errors made from time to time). And of course not to let cars out of the yard that CED wants for inspection or any other reason. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopybutt123 Posted September 5 Share #8588 Posted September 5 How many R211s are in service now and on property? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4P3607 Posted September 5 Share #8589 Posted September 5 4325-4329 + 4309-4305 was spotted Burn-In Testing at Hoyt Schermerhorn yesterday (along with a 4-car R-32 scrap move towed to 38 St Yard from Pitkin, 3716-3717+3900-3901) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted September 5 Share #8590 Posted September 5 On 9/3/2024 at 6:22 PM, Bill from Maspeth said: Yes. Even without the typo, it's ludicrous that a yard dispatcher is going to follow the R160 variations as published to assign to the lines. An R160 is an R160 to the yard dispatcher. All he/she is concerned at JYD is not to mix the Siemens and Alstoms in the same train (although there are errors made from time to time). And of course not to let cars out of the yard that CED wants for inspection or any other reason. Is there a reason Siemens and Alstoms can't run together? They said the same thing about the 68/68A's running together and yet they still do. Different question, once the entire base order of the R211's are here, what exactly is going to happen to the R46's on the ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBTA Posted September 5 Share #8591 Posted September 5 10 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: Is there a reason Siemens and Alstoms can't run together? They said the same thing about the 68/68A's running together and yet they still do. Different question, once the entire base order of the R211's are here, what exactly is going to happen to the R46's on the ? Gonna start dropping, 160s should start heading to CIY. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted September 5 Share #8592 Posted September 5 1 minute ago, NBTA said: Gonna start dropping, 160s should start heading to CIY. Which 160's? I thought they're all needed to run on Queens Blvd? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade96 Posted September 5 Share #8593 Posted September 5 38 minutes ago, NBTA said: Gonna start dropping, 160s should start heading to CIY. if anything theyd need to head to CCY, since the is based out of there, then whatever remains will head to CIY if jamaica gets 211s 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade96 Posted September 5 Share #8594 Posted September 5 37 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: Which 160's? I thought they're all needed to run on Queens Blvd? if Jamaica gets all of OO1 of 211s then those 160s will head to CCY/CIY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted September 5 Share #8595 Posted September 5 1 hour ago, Comrade96 said: if Jamaica gets all of OO1 of 211s then those 160s will head to CCY/CIY So the 160 swap was just a gap to make QBL go CBTC? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade96 Posted September 5 Share #8596 Posted September 5 59 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: So the 160 swap was just a gap to make QBL go CBTC? other way around, QBL was scheduled for CBTC, and needed new techs to accomplish this, hence....160s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted September 5 Share #8597 Posted September 5 4 minutes ago, Comrade96 said: other way around, QBL was scheduled for CBTC, and needed new techs to accomplish this, hence....160s That is what I just said. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade96 Posted September 5 Share #8598 Posted September 5 2 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: That is what I just said. oh then yeah sorry it was worded weird for me when I was typing it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBTA Posted September 5 Share #8599 Posted September 5 1 hour ago, Lawrence St said: So the 160 swap was just a gap to make QBL go CBTC? Well some will stay, not all will go to JAM. From what I know, the alignment will be this: CIY: 68s mainly for Broadway, 160s mainly for 6th Av and some for Broadway. JAM: a mix of 160s and 211s. PIT/207: 179s and 211s The J is also supposed to be collaterally effected, I believe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade96 Posted September 5 Share #8600 Posted September 5 2 minutes ago, NBTA said: Well some will stay, not all will go to JAM. From what I know, the alignment will be this: CIY: 68s mainly for Broadway, 160s mainly for 6th Av and some for Broadway. JAM: a mix of 160s and 211s. PIT/207: 179s and 211s The J is also supposed to be collaterally effected, I believe. they would need to send 160s or 211s to CCY as well though, I suspect DCE would want fleet uniformity in yards as best as possible 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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