Metro CSW Posted January 19, 2019 Share #1126 Posted January 19, 2019 Update here (pages 11-17) Confirmed! It's the real thing, guys! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted January 19, 2019 Share #1127 Posted January 19, 2019 And a name for the proposed replacement fleet for the R62/62A fleet...the R262s. Looking at the picture of the R211 side panel has me thinking those are going to be some of the narrowest side windows on a post-WW2 subway car fleet we’ll see. They have to be due to the wide entry doors. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted January 20, 2019 Share #1128 Posted January 20, 2019 22 hours ago, Around the Horn said: Updates on the R211 in this week's board materials (screenshots from Jose Martinez on Twitter) (The front door looks a little odd but I like it) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankees4life Posted January 20, 2019 Share #1129 Posted January 20, 2019 If everything goes well, we can see these guys in 2025. Now watch this go in revenue service in 2030 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted January 20, 2019 Share #1130 Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) Didn't they already create a mockup? Edited January 24, 2019 by East New York 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted January 20, 2019 Share #1131 Posted January 20, 2019 21 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: Didn't they already create a mockup? That one was for passengers, this new mockup is most likely for NYCT engineer's to see if the train meets NYCT standards, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted January 20, 2019 Share #1132 Posted January 20, 2019 1 minute ago, trainfan22 said: That one was for passengers, this new mockup is most likely for NYCT engineer's to see if the train meets NYCT standards, etc. Ah. And when this mockup is approved, it is later on converted into an actual car or scrapped? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted January 20, 2019 Share #1133 Posted January 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: Ah. And when this mockup is approved, it is later on converted into an actual car or scrapped? No this is the pre production mockup. It's built to the exact spec's of a real car without any under car equipment, so that the customer ( in this case the ) can sign off on the design of the car before the actual pilot cars are manufactured. It will most likely be scrapped. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted January 22, 2019 Share #1134 Posted January 22, 2019 The R211 observations confirms that half of these will be going to Jamaica yard. The QBL cbtc project line confirms that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted January 22, 2019 Share #1135 Posted January 22, 2019 49 minutes ago, R32 3838 said: The R211 observations confirms that half of these will be going to Jamaica yard. The QBL cbtc project line confirms that. Which is why I mentioned that Not ALL of Coney Island’s R160’s are heading over to Jamaica. And knowing NYCT, they’re not sending any Siemens over to Jamaica. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted January 22, 2019 Share #1136 Posted January 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, VIP said: Which is why I mentioned that Not ALL of Coney Island’s R160’s are heading over to Jamaica. And knowing NYCT, they’re not sending any Siemens over to Jamaica. The Siemens are going, they will have to transfer 425 cars for 340 R46's. All the R46's are going to CIY. It's smarter to send the 260 Siemens than to split them up. Then once the R211's come in those R160's would go back to CIY. Every R46 has to leave Jamaica, they want to train and prepare everyone for cbtc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Ridge Express Posted January 26, 2019 Share #1137 Posted January 26, 2019 I have a feeling the R211s will quickly grow to become my favorite car model... right now it's the R160s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted January 30, 2019 Share #1138 Posted January 30, 2019 One question - will the 211s be 5 car sets that are articulated, or will the FULL train be interconnected like on the Toronto Rockets? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gong Gahou Posted January 31, 2019 Share #1139 Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) From the full car mock-up and renderings, no accordion-like object is shown; it can be assumed that the plan is to have open gangways for every 5-car set. It is unlikely the entire 10-car consist would be interconnected because there would be resistance to this idea; to do that would mean either 1) very cramped cabs for conductors, or 2) the conductor position in the middle of the car is eliminated. Keep in mind that open gangway and articulated have different meanings; one does not equal the other. The Toronto Rocket is not an articulated train, but it has open gangways. Edited January 31, 2019 by Gong Gahou removed a word 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted January 31, 2019 Share #1140 Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) It will most likely be 5 car sets due to maintenance practices, if an 5 car set is bad and the other half is good, etc. Also with transit workers being assaulted being an issue, they will most likely want full width cabs for the C/R's. Yea on the PA5's the C/R's is out in the open but I don't think that would fly in the NY Subway in 2020. Plus, no need to worry about the C/R controls being vandalized. Edited January 31, 2019 by trainfan22 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted February 9, 2019 Author Share #1141 Posted February 9, 2019 For those that love all the technical stuff such as myself, here is the entire unabridged version of the R34211 Contract. 😎 Complete R34211 (R211) Contract Details 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted February 9, 2019 Share #1142 Posted February 9, 2019 Just now, East New York said: For those that love all the technical stuff such as myself, here is the entire unabridged version of the R34211 Contract. 😎 Complete R34211 (R211) Contract Details *screams* *faints* 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted February 9, 2019 Author Share #1143 Posted February 9, 2019 On 11/16/2015 at 4:40 PM, Around the Horn said: So its design 2016 ,award 2017? ,delivery 2020? Or am I horribly off? To a further extent, if you all want an interesting, and very entertaining view into how things play out, go back to the first page of a thread and start reading. Thanks to the R179 troubles, which prompted the acelleration of the R211 program, @Around the Horn ‘s post ended up being a lot closer than I expected, or even the MTA planned. 😎 #FridayFlashback Design 2017, Award 2018, Delivery 2020/2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted February 9, 2019 Share #1144 Posted February 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, East New York said: To a further extent, if you all want an interesting, and very entertaining view into how things play out, go back to the first page of a thread and start reading. Thanks to the R179 troubles, which prompted the acelleration of the R211 program, @Around the Horn ‘s post ended up being a lot closer than I expected, or even the MTA planned. 😎 #FridayFlashback Design 2017, Award 2018, Delivery 2020/2021 XLR8? Oooo so we gonna see the first set next year hopefully... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enjineer Posted February 9, 2019 Share #1145 Posted February 9, 2019 On 1/30/2019 at 7:50 PM, Gong Gahou said: the conductor position in the middle of the car is eliminated. With CBTC likely active on many more lines by the time the open-gangway trains show up, I wouldn't be surprised if either: they've begun to do OPTO on said lines, or at least the MTA will be fighting with the TWU to let them do OPTO (and with CBTC rolling out to more and more trunk lines, I'd expect some sort of rehash of the L train fight over OPTO in the coming years). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Ridge Express Posted February 9, 2019 Share #1146 Posted February 9, 2019 Ah, I thought because of CBTC R160s would run on the , but if they have enough R211s by then I guess they won't have to... right? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted February 9, 2019 Share #1147 Posted February 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, Bay Ridge Express said: Ah, I thought because of CBTC R160s would run on the , but if they have enough R211s by then I guess they won't have to... right? *DISCLAIMER* THIS IS ALL JUST SPECULATION!! If all R211’s (from Option 1 only) arrive plus the 2 additional Open Gangway Trains, they should be prioritized on the and first since the has very high ridership and the is the Short version of the . For a period of time, they might share R32’s, R46’s, R179’s, R211’s, (and maybe R42’s). Keep in mind that this is just speculation. So plenty of R160’s should be on the in the near future. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted February 10, 2019 Share #1148 Posted February 10, 2019 1 hour ago, LaGuardia Link N Tra said: *DISCLAIMER* THIS IS ALL JUST SPECULATION!! If all R211’s (from Option 1 only) arrive plus the 2 additional Open Gangway Trains, they should be prioritized on the and first since the has very high ridership and the is the Short version of the . For a period of time, they might share R32’s, R46’s, R179’s, R211’s, (and maybe R42’s). Keep in mind that this is just speculation. So plenty of R160’s should be on the in the near future. I think the should get R160’s instead, those who ride the do not deserve luxury, yet. Leave the R211 in wealthy neighborhoods. and perhaps? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted February 10, 2019 Share #1149 Posted February 10, 2019 I am so gonna track the delivery schedule next year lol. Thank you, ENY! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Ridge Express Posted February 10, 2019 Share #1150 Posted February 10, 2019 26 minutes ago, VIP said: and perhaps? They're meant to replace R46s, R44s, and the remaining R32s. all already have R160s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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