Jdog14 Posted December 21, 2020 Share #7551 Posted December 21, 2020 37 minutes ago, darkstar8983 said: 9618-9622 / ???? Seen on the at Ditmars Blvd, and 9198-9202/9638-9642 on the 8852 and company were running around also 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted December 22, 2020 Share #7552 Posted December 22, 2020 9103-9107/9622-9618 on the 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted December 22, 2020 Share #7553 Posted December 22, 2020 Looking like Coney Island yard needs more cars. The R46 on the plan was shot down. The R46’s are really crapping out left and right. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Ridge Express Posted December 22, 2020 Share #7554 Posted December 22, 2020 So it sounds like the 211s need to arrive... (or at very least, take the 42s out of retirement?) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted December 22, 2020 Share #7555 Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, VIP said: Looking like Coney Island yard needs more cars. The R46 on the plan was shot down. The R46’s are really crapping out left and right. 9 10-car tech trains doesn't help at this point. Needs more than that since the is reduced to who knows when. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted December 22, 2020 Share #7556 Posted December 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Calvin said: 9 10-car tech trains doesn't help at this point. Needs more than that since the is reduced to who knows when. Car equipment has to come to some sort of agreement and spare 200 R160’s for and service, the same way they did when the R179’s were out of service. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted December 22, 2020 Share #7557 Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, darkstar8983 said: 9283-9287/XXXX - XXXX is doing a stint on the 9663-9667. Things is looking different on the lines now that the Siemens are off Coney Island maintenance. Edited December 22, 2020 by Calvin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted December 22, 2020 Share #7558 Posted December 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, Calvin said: 9663-9667. Things is looking different on the lines now that the Siemens are off Coney Island maintenance. at this point, just transfer 9643-9942 to Coney Island (9803 and up as permanent transfers and 9643-9802 as “loaners”) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted December 22, 2020 Share #7559 Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Bay Ridge Express said: So it sounds like the 211s need to arrive... (or at very least, take the 42s out of retirement?) The R42s (and the R32s) are far less reliable than any of the R46s. Also I heard some of the 42s were cannibalized for parts to use in the 68s. Edited December 22, 2020 by trainfan22 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted December 22, 2020 Share #7560 Posted December 22, 2020 According to the link below, R46 MDBF is hovering around 60,000 miles, R68 MDBF skyrocketed over the past year wheres R68A fell off a bit, info is in link is below. http://dashboard.mta.info/ Overall the entire fleet MDBF went up over the past year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted December 22, 2020 Share #7561 Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, darkstar8983 said: 9283-9287/9663-9667 is doing a stint on the 4 hours ago, darkstar8983 said: 9618-9622 / 9103-9107 Seen on the at Ditmars Blvd from Around the Horn and 9203-9207/9638-9642 on the All are within from the layups around Av. X and Shell RD. Edited December 22, 2020 by Calvin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted December 22, 2020 Share #7562 Posted December 22, 2020 44 minutes ago, trainfan22 said: According to the link below, R46 MDBF is hovering around 60,000 miles, R68 MDBF skyrocketed over the past year wheres R68A fell off a bit, info is in link is below. http://dashboard.mta.info/ Overall the entire fleet MDBF went up over the past year. Those R62s are goddamn impressive. Obviously a part-time fleet will always do better but still, outperforming NTT cars is incredible. 68As should be doing better than they are given the service demands of the , but so be it. MTA's rush to scrap the 32s looks a little misguided when they were steady around 40k and ticking upwards, with the 46s at 60k and falling. Not sure what the story is with some of the R188s...still CBTC issues registering as mechanical failures? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted December 22, 2020 Share #7563 Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, MHV9218 said: MTA's rush to scrap the 32s looks a little misguided when they were steady around 40k and ticking upwards, with the 46s at 60k and falling. Understatement of the year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted December 22, 2020 Share #7564 Posted December 22, 2020 2 hours ago, trainfan22 said: The R42s (and the R32s) are far less reliable than any of the R46s. Also I heard some of the 42s were cannibalized for parts to use in the 68s. R32's are in better shape body wise. There's a reason why they are in storage and not being stripped for parts yet. R46's are dropping like flies due to low spare factor. Car Equipment and MTA needs to stop bullshitting and send a few R32's back to the to bump out R46's or to the to bump more R179's to the and in turn the R46's go to CI. if we go back into PAUSE then they could borrow more R160's than what they have now from Jamaica. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted December 22, 2020 Share #7565 Posted December 22, 2020 8 hours ago, R32 3838 said: R32's are in better shape body wise. There's a reason why they are in storage and not being stripped for parts yet. R46's are dropping like flies due to low spare factor. Car Equipment and MTA needs to stop bullshitting and send a few R32's back to the to bump out R46's or to the to bump more R179's to the and in turn the R46's go to CI. if we go back into PAUSE then they could borrow more R160's than what they have now from Jamaica. The R32’s Can’t run on the or anymore especially due to the pandemic. They can send all of them to East New York. The line can spare all their R179’s for service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted December 22, 2020 Share #7566 Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) Or, we can send 13 sets of R46's from CIY to Pitkin in exchange for the R179's since Pitkin knows how to fix the R46's. Then this way at least the R211's can replace the majority of the fleet and be CBTC ready. Edited December 22, 2020 by Lawrence St 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted December 22, 2020 Share #7567 Posted December 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Lawrence St said: Or, we can send 13 sets of R46's from CIY to Pitkin in exchange for the R179's since Pitkin knows how to fix the R46's. Then this way at least the R211's can replace the majority of the fleet and be CBTC ready. No Hell No I'm tired of this lets take the R179's from the because Coney island doesn't know wtf to do with the R46's. Making the 100% R46's would not help it at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted December 22, 2020 Share #7568 Posted December 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, R32 3838 said: No Hell No I'm tired of this lets take the R179's from the because Coney island doesn't know wtf to do with the R46's. Making the 100% R46's would not help it at all. It actually would. Sorry you feel that way, but from a logical standpoint it's the best thing can do right now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted December 22, 2020 Share #7569 Posted December 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: It actually would. Sorry you feel that way, but from a logical standpoint it's the best thing can do right now. That’s not the best, they would have to train and qualify crews for just 13 trainsets of R179’s. They don’t have the time and money to make such a move. The best thing is to use the layups at Stillwell yard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted December 22, 2020 Share #7570 Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Lawrence St said: It actually would. Sorry you feel that way, but from a logical standpoint it's the best thing can do right now. it's logical to you, we get it riders don't deserve new cars. 207th has the 8 car units, why take 13 sets Of R179's from them to bring them to another yard that has no experience with them. why do you think the r46's are doing bad? giving them the R179's would make it even worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted December 22, 2020 Share #7571 Posted December 22, 2020 13 hours ago, R32 3838 said: R32's are in better shape body wise. There's a reason why they are in storage and not being stripped for parts yet. R46's are dropping like flies due to low spare factor. Car Equipment and MTA needs to stop bullshitting and send a few R32's back to the to bump out R46's or to the to bump more R179's to the and in turn the R46's go to CI. if we go back into PAUSE then they could borrow more R160's than what they have now from Jamaica. I don’t think the MTA wants to use the R32’s anymore and it seems that they are trying their hardest to keep them out of service. Hopefully everything goes smoothly with the R211 delivery so all R32’s and R46’s can retire once and for all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted December 22, 2020 Share #7572 Posted December 22, 2020 19 minutes ago, NewFlyer 230 said: I don’t think the MTA wants to use the R32’s anymore and it seems that they are trying their hardest to keep them out of service. Hopefully everything goes smoothly with the R211 delivery so all R32’s and R46’s can retire once and for all. if they don't want them to run there's plenty of options to avoid them to run and they're not using them. borrowing equipment from other yards isn't gonna work in the long term. it's just a band aid. they need to stop being stupid and just throw the R46's on the CI has a low spare factor of r46's and pitkin's spare factor dropped when they threw r46's on the this is why the R46's are taking a nose dive. running 5 trains of R32's during the rush wouldn't hurt and they weren't supposed to retire until Q1-2 of 2022. right now ridership is low so they can get away with reducing service but they need to do it right and not this backwards shit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted December 22, 2020 Share #7573 Posted December 22, 2020 22 minutes ago, R32 3838 said: if they don't want them to run there's plenty of options to avoid them to run and they're not using them. borrowing equipment from other yards isn't gonna work in the long term. it's just a band aid. they need to stop being stupid and just throw the R46's on the CI has a low spare factor of r46's and pitkin's spare factor dropped when they threw r46's on the this is why the R46's are taking a nose dive. running 5 trains of R32's during the rush wouldn't hurt and they weren't supposed to retire until Q1-2 of 2022. right now ridership is low so they can get away with reducing service but they need to do it right and not this backwards shit. This is New York City Transit we’re talking about here. Most the people behind the scenes never took the subway or even know anything about subway car maintenance. How many good decisions did they make when it came down to car assignments or equipment planning? What I’m getting at is, don’t expect practical things from transit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted December 22, 2020 Share #7574 Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, R32 3838 said: if they don't want them to run there's plenty of options to avoid them to run and they're not using them. borrowing equipment from other yards isn't gonna work in the long term. it's just a band aid. they need to stop being stupid and just throw the R46's on the CI has a low spare factor of r46's and pitkin's spare factor dropped when they threw r46's on the this is why the R46's are taking a nose dive. running 5 trains of R32's during the rush wouldn't hurt and they weren't supposed to retire until Q1-2 of 2022. right now ridership is low so they can get away with reducing service but they need to do it right and not this backwards shit. I was thinking the could be suspended temporarily. Ridership is low enough where I doubt it would affect riders drastically. That would definitely increase the spare factor. The is able to handle the local by itself. Edited December 22, 2020 by NewFlyer 230 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted December 22, 2020 Share #7575 Posted December 22, 2020 2 hours ago, NewFlyer 230 said: I was thinking the could be suspended temporarily. Ridership is low enough where I doubt it would affect riders drastically. That would definitely increase the spare factor. The is able to handle the local by itself. I think every line needs to be assessed in terms of ridership numbers, and then trim the fat. Maybe some lines can run reduced service similar to how the and are. The could get away maybe with a 5-minute headway instead of a 4-minute headway for example, and the could run every 4-5 minutes instead of every 3 minutes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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