R32 3838 Posted June 12, 2020 Share #6751 Posted June 12, 2020 I Ment 8892, not 8902. it was a mistake 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy283 Posted June 12, 2020 Share #6752 Posted June 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, R32 3838 said: I Ment 8892, not 8902. it was a mistake Got it. Where was it headed when you saw it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted June 12, 2020 Share #6753 Posted June 12, 2020 Been reading this thread off and on for a while. It seems that some folks don’t know how things work in CED-RTO land. Let’s say I transferred 10 trains to another yard to supplement the receiving yards fleet . If the transferred fleet is foreign to the receiving yards equipment normally I would use 8 trains of the new fleet, maybe 9 trains in a pinch, for service . That 10th train would be a spare in case something happens to one of the 8 trains in use. Broken glass, door problem, any mechanical problem and I can use a 5 car unit to replace the problem unit as it’s repaired. If 9 trains are running my spare factor is decreased. If I use all 10 transferred trains I’m screwed if something happens and I have no spare. Try explaining that to your superiors. There is no excuse for such a rookie mistake . Ten trains may have been transferred from one yard to another but common sense says that you don’t run all of them at the same time. The real world and the railfans world are not one and the same. My take on the issue as a former transfer man. Carry on. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted June 12, 2020 Share #6754 Posted June 12, 2020 19 sets so far on the : 8663-8667 and Cuomo unit 9128-9132 is moved to Pitkin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted June 12, 2020 Share #6755 Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) 21 as of now: Siemens units 8878-82 and 8953-8957 is on the . And Alstom units 9628-9632, 9408-9412 as well. 9423-9427 also at Pitkin. Edited June 12, 2020 by Calvin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwwnyc123 Posted June 12, 2020 Share #6756 Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) Are they going to let keep R160 sets permanently or temporarily? Are they adding more R46 sets to the ? What is happening to R179? Edited June 12, 2020 by bwwnyc123 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted June 12, 2020 Share #6757 Posted June 12, 2020 Rock Park rush hour specials are back, I'm on one right now, surprisingly, it's a R160 set. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted June 12, 2020 Share #6758 Posted June 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, bwwnyc123 said: Are they going to let keep R160 sets permanently or temporarily? Are they adding more R46 sets to the ? Temporary, eventually, the will need those cars back for full restoration of service and CBTC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy283 Posted June 12, 2020 Share #6759 Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) 9868-9872 not at Pitkin. They were seen on the . 9903-9907 mated with 9423-9427 at pitkin Edited June 12, 2020 by happy283 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy283 Posted June 12, 2020 Share #6760 Posted June 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Calvin said: 21 as of now: Siemens units 8878-82 and 8953-8957 is on the . And Alstom units 9628-9632, 9408-9412 as well. 9423-9427 also at Pitkin. How many do they intend to send to the 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted June 12, 2020 Share #6761 Posted June 12, 2020 Keep in mind that cars will go back to Jamaica for inspection. So cars will be swapped back and fourth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted June 13, 2020 Share #6762 Posted June 13, 2020 3 hours ago, trainfan22 said: Temporary, eventually, the will need those cars back for full restoration of service and CBTC. I don’t think the will be back to full service for a long time. Maybe an increase to six-minute headways (the max that Stillwell Av can handle) as long as the Kings Highway Switches are out. And due to the pandemic-related ridership levels, I don’t see the returning to more frequent service until at least the Culver CBTC project (weekend work) is competed. the same can be said for the considering a large percentage of the ridership are from the hipsters who choose not to work and drink all day in public. Hence why the is only running 1/3 of the usual weekday service and it freed up the R143s and R160s for the to fill in for the R179s. Maybe the Rockaway Park trips could have been still placed on hiatus and focus efforts to run close to full service. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy283 Posted June 13, 2020 Share #6763 Posted June 13, 2020 2 hours ago, R32 3838 said: Keep in mind that cars will go back to Jamaica for inspection. So cars will be swapped back and fourth. Why cant Pitkin inspect them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy283 Posted June 13, 2020 Share #6764 Posted June 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, darkstar8983 said: I don’t think the will be back to full service for a long time. Maybe an increase to six-minute headways (the max that Stillwell Av can handle) as long as the Kings Highway Switches are out. And due to the pandemic-related ridership levels, I don’t see the returning to more frequent service until at least the Culver CBTC project (weekend work) is competed. There are other options other than turning trains at Stillwell or Kings Hwy. They could turn the trains usually bound for Kings Hwy at 18 Av which would give queens and mannattan stations regular service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted June 13, 2020 Share #6765 Posted June 13, 2020 2 hours ago, happy283 said: How many do they intend to send to the As many as they can from the . A lot of trains were cut due to CBTC work at Kings Highway thus lowering the total amount of trains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboy515 Posted June 13, 2020 Share #6766 Posted June 13, 2020 (edited) This is kind of strange... over the past 20 minutes, I’ve seen 2 R160s in a row on the , heading Coney Island-bound, and 1 R160 deadheading vía the express tracks on Brighton (Couldn’t see any of their numbers), also towards Coney Island... are any of those actually transfers to Coney Island Yard right now? Edited June 13, 2020 by Tonyboy515 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted June 13, 2020 Share #6767 Posted June 13, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Tonyboy515 said: This is kind of strange... over the past 20 minutes, I’ve seen 2 R160s in a row on the , heading Coney Island-bound, and 1 R160 deadheading vía the express tracks on Brighton (Couldn’t see any of their numbers), also towards Coney Island... are any of those actually transfers to Coney Island Yard right now? At this time, there's none, could be a train that was OOS. The other 3 are used : Pitkin Yard as loaners. Edited June 13, 2020 by Calvin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted June 13, 2020 Share #6768 Posted June 13, 2020 50 minutes ago, happy283 said: Why cant Pitkin inspect them? Pikin probably doesn't have the parts to maintain and work on the R160s. 47 minutes ago, happy283 said: There are other options other than turning trains at Stillwell or Kings Hwy. They could turn the trains usually bound for Kings Hwy at 18 Av which would give queens and mannattan stations regular service. I don't think 18th Ave has a crew room, so for that reason alone I don't think trains can turn there. They could turn them at Church Ave, I think they did that when the Culver EL stations were getting rehabbed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy283 Posted June 13, 2020 Share #6769 Posted June 13, 2020 26 minutes ago, Tonyboy515 said: This is kind of strange... over the past 20 minutes, I’ve seen 2 R160s in a row on the , heading Coney Island-bound, and 1 R160 deadheading vía the express tracks on Brighton (Couldn’t see any of their numbers), also towards Coney Island... are any of those actually transfers to Coney Island Yard right now? The ones in revenue service were not transfers. The deadhead could have been coming back to CI from Pitkin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy283 Posted June 13, 2020 Share #6770 Posted June 13, 2020 8658-8667, 8688-8692, 8708-8712, 8723-8727, 8878-8882, 8888-8897, 8938-8942, 8953-8957, 8978-8982, 8993-8997, 9003-9007, 9013-9022, 9113-9117, 9128-9132, 9163-9167, 9198-9202, 9223-9227, 9268-9272, 9293-9297, 9328-9337, 9363-9367, 9408-9412, 9423-9427, 9453-9457, 9503-9507, 9513-9517, 9533-9537, 9603-9607, 9628-9632, 9673-9677, 9688-9692, 9723-9732, 9738-9742, 9818-9822, 9843-9847, 9853-9857, 9873-9877, 9903-9907 Updated list of Pitkin R160s. Total cars 215. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted June 13, 2020 Share #6771 Posted June 13, 2020 8 hours ago, trainfan22 said: Pikin probably doesn't have the parts to maintain and work on the R160s. I don't think 18th Ave has a crew room, so for that reason alone I don't think trains can turn there. They could turn them at Church Ave, I think they did that when the Culver EL stations were getting rehabbed. I remember a crew room there (a very small one) when we doing a shuttle for a G.O. 8 years ago, Trying to remember if it was ours, or we were borrowing it from Stations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted June 13, 2020 Share #6772 Posted June 13, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, happy283 said: Why cant Pitkin inspect them? (R160) They do not have the parts required to repair them and the maintainers are not trained on the equipment. Because Pitkin already inspects the R46, Jamaica has the responsibility of how well the cars perform. Because this is how transit conducts their business. Edited June 13, 2020 by Bill from Maspeth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted June 13, 2020 Share #6773 Posted June 13, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, happy283 said: There are other options other than turning trains at Stillwell or Kings Hwy. They could turn the trains usually bound for Kings Hwy at 18 Av which would give queens and mannattan stations regular service. No crew and dispatcher facility at 18th Ave. The F runs at 4-5 minute rush hour headway. With the small percentage of current ridership, they do not need service that frequent and get the work done with little interruption. Same with the L, they just don't need 4 minute headways either. And nobody hit me with "Social Distancing". Ridership isn't 25% of normal yet. Edited June 13, 2020 by Bill from Maspeth 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted June 13, 2020 Share #6774 Posted June 13, 2020 6 hours ago, happy283 said: 8658-8667, 8688-8692, 8708-8712, 8723-8727, 8878-8882, 8888-8897, 8938-8942, 8953-8957, 8978-8982, 8993-8997, 9003-9007, 9013-9022, 9113-9117, 9128-9132, 9163-9167, 9198-9202, 9223-9227, 9268-9272, 9293-9297, 9328-9337, 9363-9367, 9408-9412, 9423-9427, 9453-9457, 9503-9507, 9513-9517, 9533-9537, 9603-9607, 9628-9632, 9673-9677, 9688-9692, 9723-9732, 9738-9742, 9818-9822, 9843-9847, 9853-9857, 9873-9877, 9903-9907 Updated list of Pitkin R160s. Total cars 215. I'm asking Mr. happy283 a question...…...who gave you this list? I'm curious. And these are not Pitkin R160's...…..They are JAMAICA R160's (and possibly CI) R160's on loan to the A line. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy283 Posted June 13, 2020 Share #6775 Posted June 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, Bill from Maspeth said: I'm asking Mr. happy283 a question...…...who gave you this list? I'm curious. And these are not Pitkin R160's...…..They are JAMAICA R160's (and possibly CI) R160's on loan to the A line. This is the list seen a couple pages back on this thread. I just added the numbers that users has since reported were at Pitkin. They are temporarily Pitkin R160s while Jamaica or CI is where they will eventually return to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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