Bill from Maspeth Posted March 28, 2020 Share #6376 Posted March 28, 2020 3 hours ago, darkstar8983 said: Or maybe 6341-6345 with 6349 inserted just to keep the numbering consistent to make one of the six car trains. Then repair any minor damage from 6366-6370 (if any) and leave it on the main line Bingo. I was waiting for someone to say that. It's too early for sure to say which cars of the 5 car set are done or salvageable. Initial reports I heard is the first 3 are done. Certainly the car involved as the car melted in most areas. Likely the 2 in front and behind it had heavy residual damage. We've saw that the deal with the completed GCT-TSq shuttle project was to operate two 6 car trains and of course we were all asking how? Sure, for now two trains of R62A's but what happens in the future when that fleet is retired? We may have our answer now, however we need a couple of spare trains naturally. Our Car equipment people an do some amazing things. I can see them splicing those 2 surviving cars into 2 current 5 car units. They can do whatever rewiring is necessary to make it work. And they can. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyMyself Posted March 28, 2020 Share #6377 Posted March 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Bill from Maspeth said: Sure, for now two trains of R62A's but what happens in the future when that fleet is retired? Well you have the R262 order coming around the corner. A few sets can go to the 42nd Street , given that there's 504 cars in the base order and all lines on the Main Line are configured in ten-car trains. That leaves four six-car trains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted March 28, 2020 Share #6378 Posted March 28, 2020 (edited) R142's cant be arranged in less or more then 5 cars. Each car in one five set has a different system for each part of the train. Edited March 28, 2020 by Lawrence St 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m2fwannabe Posted March 29, 2020 Share #6379 Posted March 29, 2020 So on Thursday, there were just these two "retired" trains of R-32s back in service...Hmmm... 3501/00-3716/17-3628/3669-3381/80. 3574/75-3376/77-3888/89-3775/74. FWIW, at least as of March 26, 2020 there were (technically and) again 74 cars in the R-32 fleet. Time will tell if this continues. There were still 58 in the fleet on Monday the 23rd. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeeP15-9112 Posted March 29, 2020 Share #6380 Posted March 29, 2020 1 hour ago, m2fwannabe said: 3628/3669-3381/80 Good to hear that another mis-mate (the Franklin shuttle mismatch) made it back into service, as well as 3381 and its R30 end. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted March 29, 2020 Share #6381 Posted March 29, 2020 2 hours ago, MeeP15-9112 said: Good to hear that another mis-mate (the Franklin shuttle mismatch) made it back into service, as well as 3381 and its R30 end. Franklin Av mis-match? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coney Island Av Posted March 29, 2020 Share #6382 Posted March 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Lawrence St said: Franklin Av mis-match? basically, the original 3669 was damaged in a derailment along the Franklin shuttle in 1974. meanwhile, 3628-29 were involved in a collision with an R42 in 1971. 3629 was scrapped, and 3668 was renumbered to 3669 (which is the one that @MeeP15-9112 is talking about), and the new 3669 (aka ex-3668) was paired up with 3628, and voila. that's why 3628-3669 are paired up like that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted March 29, 2020 Share #6383 Posted March 29, 2020 9 hours ago, m2fwannabe said: So on Thursday, there were just these two "retired" trains of R-32s back in service...Hmmm... 3501/00-3716/17-3628/3669-3381/80. 3574/75-3376/77-3888/89-3775/74. FWIW, at least as of March 26, 2020 there were (technically and) again 74 cars in the R-32 fleet. Time will tell if this continues. There were still 58 in the fleet on Monday the 23rd. The R32 fleet is NOT retired. For the final time, these cars are put ins. (Substitute, supplement, and spares) most are being stored and some are stripped or awaiting stripping of parts. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coney Island Av Posted March 29, 2020 Share #6384 Posted March 29, 2020 once the jamaica-coney island swap is complete, would CI need some more additional R46s from 207/pitkin? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted March 29, 2020 Share #6385 Posted March 29, 2020 33 minutes ago, Coney Island Av said: once the jamaica-coney island swap is complete, would CI need some more additional R46s from 207/pitkin? Just one extra 4 car set, perhaps. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted March 30, 2020 Share #6386 Posted March 30, 2020 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeeP15-9112 Posted April 1, 2020 Share #6387 Posted April 1, 2020 Any word on the other car that caught on fire recently? People are really wack these days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subway fanatic Posted April 1, 2020 Share #6388 Posted April 1, 2020 On 3/30/2020 at 4:36 PM, Union Tpke said: Lets just hope the other sets can go though the fate of the R143 which will take 10 years of extensive rebuild and hopefully, Bombardier can rebuild them despite the R179 conflict. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted April 2, 2020 Share #6389 Posted April 2, 2020 17 hours ago, Subway fanatic said: Bombardier can rebuild them despite the R179 conflict. Bombardier got bought by Alstom. 6347 was BURNT to the point of damages beyond repair. SO its mostly likely getting scrapped. I'd expect the other cars from that set to be salvaged for parts 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulk88 Posted April 2, 2020 Share #6390 Posted April 2, 2020 On 3/28/2020 at 6:12 PM, Lawrence St said: R142's cant be arranged in less or more then 5 cars. Each car in one five set has a different system for each part of the train. NTT B cars are interchangeable. A cars and CBTC "C cars" are sketchy. All cars in a set have APUs/LVPS/batteries. Either all A cars or all B cars have compressors. Too much redundant auxiliary equipment other railroads skip making NYCT cars extra heavy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted April 2, 2020 Share #6391 Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) On 3/28/2020 at 6:12 PM, Lawrence St said: R142's cant be arranged in less or more then 5 cars. Each car in one five set has a different system for each part of the train. False. R142's can run in 4 to 6 car units. The middle car in a 5 car unit doesn't actually provide anything to another car. It's always the B car next to the A car. When the C cars were ordered for the R188s, these were lighter cars missing a number of parts for the "A-B pairing". With those cars, they actually pass through on both ends so that the A and B cars between them communicate. This is why the C car is always found between an A and B car in a unit, and once again the B car in the middle of a unit don't marry with any other cars (as to the question of why they didn't just have two C cars on the new orders, my best guess is consistency with the R142A's which were converted?) Edited April 2, 2020 by Snowblock 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted April 2, 2020 Share #6392 Posted April 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Snowblock said: False. R142's can run in 4 to 6 car units. The middle car in a 5 car unit doesn't actually provide anything to another car. It's always the B car next to the A car. When the C cars were ordered for the R188s, these were lighter cars missing a number of parts for the "A-B pairing". With those cars, they actually pass through on both ends so that the A and B cars between them communicate. This is why the C car is always found between an A and B car in a unit, and once again the B car in the middle of a unit don't marry with any other cars (as to the question of why they didn't just have two C cars on the new orders, my best guess is consistency with the R142A's which were converted?) Would you happen to know if this is also true for R160s and R179s? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted April 2, 2020 Share #6393 Posted April 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, NewFlyer 230 said: Would you happen to know if this is also true for R160s and R179s? Given that the MTA did test 11-car R160 sets for service, my guess is yes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted April 2, 2020 Share #6394 Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) All of the NTT's work in the ABBA, ABBBA, ABBBBA unit configuration. You can also substitute a C car between an A and B. Edited April 2, 2020 by Snowblock 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted April 2, 2020 Share #6395 Posted April 2, 2020 37 minutes ago, NewFlyer 230 said: Would you happen to know if this is also true for R160s and R179s? (Looks at the and on QBL) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted April 2, 2020 Share #6396 Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) Is the running 8 car sets? Edited April 2, 2020 by Snowblock 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted April 2, 2020 Share #6397 Posted April 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, Snowblock said: Is the running 8 car sets? I was referring to how the and have 8 and 10 car sets respectively in response to how the B cars make no difference in how the train operates. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted April 2, 2020 Share #6398 Posted April 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, Snowblock said: All of the NTT's work in the ABBA, ABBBA, ABBBBA unit configuration. You can also substitute a C car between an A and B. So basically it’s possible to break a 5 car R160 set for example into a 4 car set? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted April 2, 2020 Share #6399 Posted April 2, 2020 Can NTT cars work in an A-B-A paring? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeeP15-9112 Posted April 3, 2020 Share #6400 Posted April 3, 2020 7 hours ago, MHV9218 said: Given that the MTA did test 11-car R160 sets for service, my guess is yes. When? Does anyone have evidence? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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