vioreen Posted March 14, 2020 Share #6276 Posted March 14, 2020 Why majority of the R46s replaced the R160s on the N,Q,W lines ? could there be a better solution to this idea ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted March 14, 2020 Share #6277 Posted March 14, 2020 4 hours ago, m2fwannabe said: Some nasty planning ahead depending on how deep goes the Force Majeure (i.e. Coronavirus rider droppage). One option is "Forever Weekend" scheduling on subways. Otherwise a long-term subways closure may not be out of question as events require. The need for R-32s seem to be leaving us all! Note that WMATA is already full-time weekend scheduling and MBTA will be following next Monday. Here we go... Worth noting that the pandemic will also likely delay the R211 production and delivery over the same period that any slowdown/shutdown would take. I would be surprised to see the TA fully deactivate a fleet that could very well be needed again. Very likely that they're removed from service pending a major slowdown – that's just good operations planning, MBDF-wise – but it does seem that it would be unwise to move to their retirement without R211s on hand. But the MTA has done dumb things before, so... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted March 14, 2020 Share #6278 Posted March 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, MHV9218 said: Worth noting that the pandemic will also likely delay the R211 production and delivery over the same period that any slowdown/shutdown would take. I would be surprised to see the TA fully deactivate a fleet that could very well be needed again. Very likely that they're removed from service pending a major slowdown – that's just good operations planning, MBDF-wise – but it does seem that it would be unwise to move to their retirement without R211s on hand. But the MTA has done dumb things before, so... This is gonna backfire hard on , But Coumo is the one pushing for them to retire. People think this will work but it won't and once riders start complaining on longer wait times, all hell is gonna break loose. Had they kept 50 of these on the I bet this would not had happened. the riders bitched and moaned and it got the attention of our governor. no one really complained on the at all vs the . The Jackass wants to push for congestion pricing with a subway car shortage. I can't wait to so his ass get voted out. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m2fwannabe Posted March 14, 2020 Share #6279 Posted March 14, 2020 First weekday I know of: No (Zero) R-32s were operated on Friday, March 13. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coney Island Av Posted March 14, 2020 Share #6280 Posted March 14, 2020 Just now, m2fwannabe said: First weekday I know of: No (Zero) R-32s were operated on Friday, March 13. to add on i have been seeing more R46s than usual out on the and didn't see any R32s out on the latter either yesterday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimategamer12c Posted March 14, 2020 Share #6281 Posted March 14, 2020 Theres been a decreasing amount of R32s out on the and lately but this week I've seen them on the except in the morning I usually now see about 2 in service then later on more come out on the for rush hours at least 3 -4 come out. For the it's about one in the morning then another one comes out for the pm rush hour so there be about 2 one to lefferts and then the other to far rock which I mostly miss and instead end up catching the lefferts bound one. I didnt spot no R32 yesterday along 8th Ave even tho I wasnt along there for long I was shocked to say the least. I know usually see more R46s pop out there be 2 out on the I'm not sure how much the has now but ik its 2 when I do fan them along the line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted March 14, 2020 Share #6282 Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Ultimategamer12c said: Theres been a decreasing amount of R32s out on the and lately but this week I've seen them on the except in the morning I usually now see about 2 in service then later on more come out on the for rush hours at least 3 -4 come out. For the it's about one in the morning then another one comes out for the pm rush hour so there be about 2 one to lefferts and then the other to far rock which I mostly miss and instead end up catching the lefferts bound one. I didnt spot no R32 yesterday along 8th Ave even tho I wasnt along there for long I was shocked to say the least. I know usually see more R46s pop out there be 2 out on the I'm not sure how much the has now but ik its 2 when I do fan them along the line. In reply to the bolded, doesn't the line fleet run all day with NO put ins during the PM rush? I know one train lays up after the AM Rush, the others run all day and night until service ends for the day, or so I thought. @vioreen Queens Blvd is getting CBTC and thus the R160s that ran on the N, Q and W lines had to be transferred to Jamaica Yard in exchange for R46s. Edited March 14, 2020 by trainfan22 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuseguy is Cool Posted March 14, 2020 Share #6283 Posted March 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, trainfan22 said: In reply to the bolded, doesn't the line fleet run all day with NO put ins during the PM rush? I know one train lays up after the AM Rush, the others run all day and night until service ends for the day, or so I thought. @vioreen Queens Blvd is getting CBTC and thus the R160s that ran on the N, Q and W lines had to be transferred to Jamaica Yard in exchange for R46s. Imo, The R32s fit the so much better than the R46s. That stretch going northbound from 59-125 all depends on the T/O but the R32s weigh less so that's a reason to go faster lol. The R179s fit the over tHE R46s too Imo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted March 14, 2020 Share #6284 Posted March 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Coney Island Av said: to add on i have been seeing more R46s than usual out on the and didn't see any R32s out on the latter either yesterday. I saw about 4 R32's yesterday on the 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwwnyc123 Posted March 14, 2020 Share #6285 Posted March 14, 2020 They starting to use R32 more less. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimategamer12c Posted March 14, 2020 Share #6286 Posted March 14, 2020 3 hours ago, trainfan22 said: In reply to the bolded, doesn't the line fleet run all day with NO put ins during the PM rush? I know one train lays up after the AM Rush, the others run all day and night until service ends for the day, or so I thought. @vioreen Queens Blvd is getting CBTC and thus the R160s that ran on the N, Q and W lines had to be transferred to Jamaica Yard in exchange for R46s. The fleet runs all day but not the R32s as I should say which are running less now later on in the day more comes out on the line until late night sometimes I see some get taken oos at Euclid and 168th and a R179 would pop out and or a R46. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted March 14, 2020 Share #6287 Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) Something that was brought up on a Facebook group: Is it possible to convert half the into 6 car R46 sets? There should be enough A-A cars to potentially make the half R46 and R179 if they go through with retiring all of the R32s. Edited March 14, 2020 by MysteriousBtrain 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R46 5555 Posted March 14, 2020 Share #6288 Posted March 14, 2020 3 hours ago, MysteriousBtrain said: Something that was brought up on a Facebook group: Is it possible to convert half the into 6 car R46 sets? There should be enough A-A cars to potentially make the half R46 and R179 if they go through with retiring all of the R32s. They’re not going to convert 6 car R46. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Valiant Posted March 15, 2020 Share #6289 Posted March 15, 2020 6 hours ago, MysteriousBtrain said: Something that was brought up on a Facebook group: Is it possible to convert half the into 6 car R46 sets? There should be enough A-A cars to potentially make the half R46 and R179 if they go through with retiring all of the R32s. If anything, the goal is to focus on making the use longer trains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irongirl6128 Posted March 15, 2020 Share #6290 Posted March 15, 2020 5 hours ago, R46 5555 said: They’re not going to convert 6 car R46. That's pretty counterintuitive already. Even 8 car 75 footers have less doors compared to their 60 foot counterparts, last thing you need is to reduce the length. (which is something that will backfire badly) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted March 15, 2020 Share #6291 Posted March 15, 2020 On 3/14/2020 at 11:58 AM, Ultimategamer12c said: Theres been a decreasing amount of R32s out on the and lately but this week I've seen them on the except in the morning I usually now see about 2 in service then later on more come out on the for rush hours at least 3 -4 come out. For the it's about one in the morning then another one comes out for the pm rush hour so there be about 2 one to lefferts and then the other to far rock which I mostly miss and instead end up catching the lefferts bound one. I didnt spot no R32 yesterday along 8th Ave even tho I wasnt along there for long I was shocked to say the least. I know usually see more R46s pop out there be 2 out on the I'm not sure how much the has now but ik its 2 when I do fan them along the line. There is one C layup after the AM rush to 207 Yard that goes to the A for the PM rush. There are no PM put in's for the C. In other words whatever is running in the AM rush on the C runs all day, except for 1 train. If you see anything different, that means there was a defective C consist that got replaced by another consist. The above applies to Monday to Friday operations. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted March 15, 2020 Share #6292 Posted March 15, 2020 22 hours ago, MysteriousBtrain said: Something that was brought up on a Facebook group: Is it possible to convert half the into 6 car R46 sets? There should be enough A-A cars to potentially make the half R46 and R179 if they go through with retiring all of the R32s. Bad idea because a 6 car R46 is shorter than an 8 car 60' train of R32's or R179's. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted March 15, 2020 Share #6293 Posted March 15, 2020 On 3/14/2020 at 12:52 AM, vioreen said: Why majority of the R46s replaced the R160s on the N,Q,W lines ? could there be a better solution to this idea ? The purpose of the R46/R160 swap between Jamaica and CI is to get all R160's to the F and R lines (E and M Is already R160) so the new CBTC signaling system can be ran and is compatible with all the equipment. It is also what this thread is all about. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vioreen Posted March 16, 2020 Share #6294 Posted March 16, 2020 I think the R46/R160 swap would not last long because the R211 which is expected to be delivered by end of 2020 will start replacing the R46. When the R211 is delivered which line would it run on ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwwnyc123 Posted March 16, 2020 Share #6295 Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) R211 could operate on since they currently use R46. Edited March 16, 2020 by bwwnyc123 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vioreen Posted March 16, 2020 Share #6296 Posted March 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, bwwnyc123 said: R211 could operate on since they currently use R46. Maybe its possible that another swap could happen as a result of the R211 delivery. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted March 16, 2020 Share #6297 Posted March 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, bwwnyc123 said: R211 could operate on since they currently use R46. nobody knows where the cars would be assigned but the are the priority to get em for 8th ave CBTC. CI might still get some but no one knows. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted March 16, 2020 Share #6298 Posted March 16, 2020 3 hours ago, bwwnyc123 said: R211 could operate on since they currently use R46. They COULD run on the A-B-C-D-E-F-G-H-N-Q-R or W. The bottom line is NYCT will make the decision when the time comes. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 6 Ave Local Posted March 16, 2020 Share #6299 Posted March 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bill from Maspeth said: They COULD run on the A-B-C-D-E-F-G-H-N-Q-R or W. The bottom line is NYCT will make the decision when the time comes. are unlikely, they have 68s not 46s 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted March 16, 2020 Share #6300 Posted March 16, 2020 25 minutes ago, KK 6 Ave Local said: are unlikely, they have 68s not 46s are unlikely, they have R160s, not R46s. Yet we still have people assuming the R211s are gonna be assigned to Jamaica when there are no definite assignments for them. Point being, they can be assigned wherever the MTA wants. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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