m2fwannabe Posted January 4, 2020 Share #5201 Posted January 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Snorunts said: Gotcha gotcha! So that means 43 R46 Trains at Jamaica Yard plus 04 extra cars. Still not sure what you mean, but Jamaica had 99 4-car links of R46s before the swap. Now they have 87. That would be doubled to create 43½ 8-car trains. Of course they'd only really use 43 if so. Coney Island had 570 R160s before the swap or 114 5-car links. Now they have 106. That would be doubled to create 53 10-car trains. Coney Island keeps enough equipment to create up to 99 full-length trains. In actual the schedule is not like that in reality if mainly because of the 2-car trains used on the Franklin Shuttle by 2916-24, and the 13 4-car trains (single 75-foot link) used on the "Crosstown" (). Does that make sense? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted January 4, 2020 Share #5202 Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Snorunts said: Question: The R160’s that remain in Coney Island Yard, are they all going to be assigned to the line? Are they going to split between the , , ? Something I’ve been wondering... Yeah the new techs aren’t going to get special treatment, they’re up for grabs between the and ... remember how during rush hours we’d see an R160 train or two, and get hype about it? Yeah, That’s EXACTLY how it’s going to be on the Broadway lines. The R160’s will be unicorns. Edited January 4, 2020 by VIP Grammar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemorie Posted January 4, 2020 Share #5203 Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, darkstar8983 said: Since 2016 the has gone downhill similar to how 2001-2004 was with the route swaps 2016 - Sea Beach Reconstruction begins 2016 - train returns but means fewer trains outside rush hours in Astoria and car shortage is noticed. 2017 - Astoria Stations begin Construction 2018 - 4 Av Express tunnel begins repairs 2019 - Astoria Blvd closes & train is cut from Stillwell Av 2019-2020 - loses almost all R160s for the worst performing subway car (outside the R32) if they still did the state of the subway report card, you’d see the at the bottom of the list again like it was in the 90s and early 2000s Could have never said it any better lol. However, the only thing I do not agree with is the part. Outside of rush hours, Astoria levels have always been the very same - 12 tph. That’s a train every 5 minutes mathematically on average. Off-peak service prior to SAS was 6 tph like the current service. No service off-peak was cut before and after SAS open with the exception of Astoria-related GOs of course. Edited January 4, 2020 by Jemorie Typo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted January 4, 2020 Share #5204 Posted January 4, 2020 Broadway Service is going to go down the drain with these R46's with their ridiculously long dwell times... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shore El Express Posted January 4, 2020 Share #5205 Posted January 4, 2020 How much longer until R46s on the F are gone completely? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2train Posted January 4, 2020 Share #5206 Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Jemorie said: Could have never said it any better lol. However, the only thing I do not agree with is the part. Outside of rush hours, Astoria levels have always been the very same - 12 tph. That’s a train every 5 minutes mathematically on average. Off-peak service prior to SAS was 6 tph like the current service. No service off-peak was cut before and after SAS open with the exception of Astoria-related GOs of course. darkstar8983 is not referring to the frequency but rather the span of service. The ran to/from Astoria for a longer span each day than the . Southbound service from Astoria ran from 6:02 AM to 11:01 PM. Northbound s arrived at Astoria from 6:34 AM to 11:34 PM. From 2008-2010 and from 2016 to 2018, the span of Southbound service was from 6:53 AM to 9:58 PM, and northbound service arrived from Astoria from 7:45 AM to 11:29 PM. Because service to/from Astoria started later and ended earlier than former service, bringing back the effectively reduced the number of trips to/from Astoria during those early morning hours and late evening hours. There were some news articles written back when the returned pointing this out. This was addressed in 2018 when the schedule was adjusted and the span of southbound service from Astoria was increased from 6:13 AM to 10:07 PM (with northbound trains arriving at Astoria from 7:47 AM to 11:48 PM). Of course, back in November 2019, evening service was adjusted to end a little earlier, with the last southbound leaving Astoria at 9:26 PM, and the last northbound arriving at 10:55 PM, but the increased service in the morning remains. Edited January 4, 2020 by Mysterious2train 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted January 4, 2020 Share #5207 Posted January 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, Mysterious2train said: darkstar8983 is not referring to the frequency but rather the span of service. The ran to/from Astoria for a longer span each day than the . Southbound service from Astoria ran from 6:02 AM to 11:01 PM. Northbound s arrived at Astoria from 6:34 AM to 11:34 PM. From 2008-2010 and from 2016 to 2018, the span of Southbound service was from 6:53 AM to 9:58 PM, and northbound service arrived from Astoria from 7:45 AM to 11:29 PM. Because service to/from Astoria started later and ended earlier than former service, bringing back the effectively reduced the number of trips to/from Astoria during those early morning hours and late evening hours. There were some news articles written back when the returned pointing this out. This was addressed in 2018 when the schedule was adjusted and the span of southbound service from Astoria was increased from 6:13 AM to 10:07 PM (with northbound trains arriving at Astoria from 7:47 AM to 11:48 PM). Of course, back in November 2019, evening service was adjusted to end a little earlier, with the last southbound leaving Astoria at 9:26 PM, and the last northbound arriving at 10:55 PM, but the increased service in the morning remains. Were the and ever interlined when the ran in Queens? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted January 4, 2020 Share #5208 Posted January 4, 2020 36 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: Were the and ever interlined when the ran in Queens? Yes, they were, just like the are today. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTAbus677 Posted January 4, 2020 Share #5209 Posted January 4, 2020 9233-9237, 9258-9267, 9443-9457, 9463-9482. To be transferred back to Jamaica Yard soon! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Valiant Posted January 4, 2020 Share #5210 Posted January 4, 2020 That true? ^^^^^ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTAbus677 Posted January 4, 2020 Share #5211 Posted January 4, 2020 Just now, Snorunts said: That true? ^^^^^ I never said that it got transferred! Will they all go? Or some will stay? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted January 4, 2020 Share #5212 Posted January 4, 2020 28 minutes ago, MTAbus677 said: 9233-9237, 9258-9267, 9443-9457, 9463-9482. To be transferred back to Jamaica Yard soon! What’s the point of this post? Most-to all know that R160’s that are at Coney Island are being transferred to Jamaica. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTAbus677 Posted January 4, 2020 Share #5213 Posted January 4, 2020 1 minute ago, VIP said: What’s the point of this post? Most-to all know that R160’s that are at Coney Island are being transferred to Jamaica. I was wondering when will those sets will get transferred. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Valiant Posted January 4, 2020 Share #5214 Posted January 4, 2020 21 minutes ago, VIP said: What’s the point of this post? Most-to all know that R160’s that are at Coney Island are being transferred to Jamaica. Thanks for that reply. That comment of his really spun my head around.... For a sec I thought all those went to Jamaica. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTAbus677 Posted January 4, 2020 Share #5215 Posted January 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Snorunts said: Thanks for that reply. That comment of his really spun my head around.... For a sec I thought all those went to Jamaica. TO BE! That means eventually! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Valiant Posted January 4, 2020 Share #5216 Posted January 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, MTAbus677 said: TO BE! That means eventually! Ok... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted January 4, 2020 Share #5217 Posted January 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Snorunts said: Ok... There’s no special selection of fleet Numbers to be transferred to/from, these transfers are contingent upon inspection completion and approval by yard personnel. Hopefully this answers any questions as to which sets are getting transferred. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Valiant Posted January 4, 2020 Share #5218 Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) 39 minutes ago, VIP said: There’s no special selection of fleet Numbers to be transferred to/from, these transfers are contingent upon inspection completion and approval by yard personnel. Hopefully this answers any questions as to which sets are getting transferred. Totally, that’s what I thought. Don’t know why that kiddo makes a list of cars and then says “to be transferred” if it’s a matter of approval. Thanks for the clarification BTW. You’re insights are always very helpful. Edited January 4, 2020 by Snorunts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted January 4, 2020 Share #5219 Posted January 4, 2020 20 hours ago, VIP said: Jamaica isn’t doing well with their car inspections. Coney Island barn is NOT having it. and crews have made complaints. Also this swap is apocalyptic for SeaBeach, Astoria, and Broadway riders. They’re going to notice the difference really quickly. This why the should have gotten the R46's first alongside the They'll do way better on the vs. the 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted January 5, 2020 Share #5220 Posted January 5, 2020 21 hours ago, VIP said: Jamaica isn’t doing well with their car inspections. Coney Island barn is NOT having it. and crews have made complaints. Also this swap is apocalyptic for SeaBeach, Astoria, and Broadway riders. They’re going to notice the difference really quickly. Hopefully they continue to complain until they do something. R46's on Broadway. Are. Not. A. Good. Idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted January 5, 2020 Share #5221 Posted January 5, 2020 45 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: Hopefully they continue to complain until they do something. R46's on Broadway. Are. Not. A. Good. Idea. Where else are they gonna run? If and riders can deal with R46s then so can Broadway riders. Lex local riders got a down grade with the 62As, a car with smaller doors AND a crappier HAVC system and they deal with it. Broadway riders can handle 75 footers on their lines until the 211s come in service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted January 5, 2020 Share #5222 Posted January 5, 2020 2 hours ago, R32 3838 said: This why the should have gotten the R46's first alongside the They'll do way better on the vs. the It's not like filling the with R68s would make much of a difference 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwwnyc123 Posted January 5, 2020 Share #5223 Posted January 5, 2020 R46 and R68 non is better than the other. Both 75ft cars and has the same speed, same dwell times in stations, the hippos of the Subway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68OnBroadway Posted January 5, 2020 Share #5224 Posted January 5, 2020 23 hours ago, m2fwannabe said: Again a new subject: We have a list of 20 newly retired R-32s at 207, presumably to be batched processing (stripped) for scrapping soon. IF this is done as the last time so around 2010 and the reefing before that, all were dismembered at Tracks 11 & 12 inside the Main Shops. Lets see how this works. It appears a guess so far will entail 20 cars per work for 4 weeks (that would be the 80 cars as widely circulated). Interested in the specific car numbers or is that TMI? What were the car numbers? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Valiant Posted January 5, 2020 Share #5225 Posted January 5, 2020 23 hours ago, m2fwannabe said: Again a new subject: We have a list of 20 newly retired R-32s at 207, presumably to be batched processing (stripped) for scrapping soon. IF this is done as the last time so around 2010 and the reefing before that, all were dismembered at Tracks 11 & 12 inside the Main Shops. Lets see how this works. It appears a guess so far will entail 20 cars per work for 4 weeks (that would be the 80 cars as widely circulated). Interested in the specific car numbers or is that TMI? Do the R-32’s still run on the line? TTMG roster shows all active cars assigned to the line (but you know TTMG often doesn’t update). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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