Fan Railer Posted September 19, 2011 Share #426 Posted September 19, 2011 There's not enough R62As at Corona to fully equip the and (6)/<6> lines. It's either the or the (6)/<6>. Can't be both. This has been discussed over and over and over and over again. The most logical placement would be to the , so use of the LED indicators can be best utilized. The currently runs 40 trainsets at any given time during peak hours and Westchester yard holds approximately 430 R142A's. The runs 32 trains while Corona yard holds 409 R62A's. Transfering ALL of Corona's R62A's would just be enough to provide full rush hour service on the , spare factor aside. Where they'll come up with extra cars for the spare factor, I don't know. But I am guessing that they'll only need 360 of Westchester's R142A's for the conversion, that leaves 7 full trainsets that could function as the spare. I don't know how many more times I'll have to explain this, but I'll keep doing it until it actually happens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted September 19, 2011 Share #427 Posted September 19, 2011 THat's pretty much what I've been preaching, but people will still repeat what they think is gonna happen. You can pretty much set your watch to it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bracamonte Posted September 22, 2011 Share #428 Posted September 22, 2011 I saw a video of the R142A in the Grand Central-42nd Street station and it appears that they do fit in the Steinway tunnels. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRT Bronx Express Posted September 22, 2011 Share #429 Posted September 22, 2011 I saw a video of the R142A in the Grand Central-42nd Street station and it appears that they do fit in the Steinway tunnels.I saw it too, and the person that recorded it was lucky enough to catch it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted September 23, 2011 Share #430 Posted September 23, 2011 THey might fit, but don't they have to run much slowly? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bracamonte Posted September 23, 2011 Share #431 Posted September 23, 2011 THey might fit, but don't they have to run much slowly? Well its not like the 60th street tunnel where trains run extremely fast. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriedChikkin Posted September 23, 2011 Share #432 Posted September 23, 2011 Interested in a job (sorry of this is old ? MTA NYC Transit is an Equal Opportunity Employer Amended First Date of Posting: 09-23-2011 Job Vacancy Notice: Title: Director, R188 Project Salary&(Grade): $87,600-$138,500 B Authority: TA Reports To:ACMO Department: Subways Division/Unit: Car Equipment Work Location: Various,Brooklyn Hours of Work: Managerial All selected candidates will be subject to a full background investigation that includes employment and education. Discrepancies may lead to dismissal. RESPONSIBILITIES: This position manages the procurement of the R188 new and conversion trains to ensure that safe and reliable cars are being delivered to NYCT. Directs a team of professional managers and technical staff in design, review and analysis, inspection, testing and reliability tracking to maximize safety, reliability, maintainability and performance. Establishes and implements recommendations to achieve operational compatibility between the new CBTC signaling system and the new converted cars; and is responsible for Project Management of this project. EXPERIENCE AND EDUCATION REQUIREMENTS: A bachelor's degree from an accredited college in engineering or a satisfactory equivalent and fifteen (15) years experience including seven ( 7 ) years of managerial or supervisory experience. A NYS Professional Engineer License is required for this position. DESIRED SKILLS: -Ten years of increasingly responsible experience in the rapid transit industry. -Knowledge of new and cutting edge technology in railcar engineering: transit vehicle systems and their interface and interaction. -Thorough understanding of design, testing, troubleshooting, failure analysis and corrective action relative to railcars and control systems. -Experience with NYCT car equipment. TO APPLY, PLEASE REFER TO JOB REQUISITION NUMBER & SEND TWO ( 2 ) COPIES OF RESUME & COVER LETTER TO: (If you are a current employee, please include your PASS NUMBER at the top of your resume). Ms. Venus Savery, Personnel Specialist Departmental Operations 180 Livingston Street - Room 634A Brooklyn, NY 11201 Or Fax to (347) 643-8493, or e-mail ceemowa@nyct.com SELECTION METHOD: Based on evaluation of education, skills, experience and interview. Job Requisition#: 005772T Last Date for Filing: 10-10-2011 All appointments, with the exception of Department of Subways employees on MaBSTOA payroll, will be made on the NYCT payroll. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted September 23, 2011 Share #433 Posted September 23, 2011 Well its not like the 60th street tunnel where trains run extremely fast. Obviously not, 60th was designed for subway cars as opposed to Steinway being built for trolleys. I just wonder how 'fast' those R142As will be allowed to run compared to the R62As. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overclocked Posted September 23, 2011 Share #434 Posted September 23, 2011 Obviously not, 60th was designed for subway cars as opposed to Steinway being built for trolleys. I just wonder how 'fast' those R142As will be allowed to run compared to the R62As. Most likely just as fast, counting if tunnel doesn't start to deteriorate at faster rate, because the dimensions are almost the same and cars are lighter. datasheets of R62/a and R142/a http://images.nycsubway.org/cars/datasheet-r142.jpg http://images.nycsubway.org/cars/datasheet-r142a.jpg http://images.nycsubway.org/cars/datasheet-r62a.jpg http://images.nycsubway.org/cars/datasheet-r62.jpg 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Lexington Ave Posted September 23, 2011 Share #435 Posted September 23, 2011 I don't think they'll have a problem. The R62As look bulkier anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bracamonte Posted September 23, 2011 Share #436 Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) On a day like today, its obvious that the R142A test is canceled because of the weather. BTW, what about the strip maps? Are they going to make strip maps for the or replace them with FIND displays like those seen on the R160's? Edited September 23, 2011 by Bracamonte 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted September 23, 2011 Share #437 Posted September 23, 2011 On a day like today, its obvious that the R142A test is canceled because of the weather.BTW, what about the strip maps? Are they going to make strip maps for the or replace them with FIND displays like those seen on the R160's? Strip maps would obviously be cheaper and work basically just as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted September 24, 2011 Share #438 Posted September 24, 2011 It all depends on what components they put into the R188s. Whether they're strip maps or FINDs is up to the . The components just have to be compatible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted September 24, 2011 Share #439 Posted September 24, 2011 FIND should be cheaper now that it is no longer experimental, so I wouldn't be too surprised they get installed on the converted R142As. But since the is isolated from the ML and I kinda doubt those cars will be coming back to the ML, strip maps makes more sense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted September 24, 2011 Share #440 Posted September 24, 2011 I agree. If any of the not-R160 NTTs were to get FINDs, it should be the mainline R142s, especially since those get rerouted all the time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princelex Posted September 25, 2011 Share #441 Posted September 25, 2011 I agree. If any of the not-R160 NTTs were to get FINDs, it should be the mainline R142s, especially since those get rerouted all the time. They need to hurry up and put finds on the and R142's. It sucks having to operate a and it's a train set because it increases the chances of riders having to come up and ask me questions like "does the go to fulton st?" when the strip map should easily tell them that. I hope that it happens sometime in the near future. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted September 25, 2011 Share #442 Posted September 25, 2011 They need to hurry up and put finds on the and R142's. It sucks having to operate a and it's a train set because it increases the chances of riders having to come up and ask me questions like "does the go to fulton st?" when the strip map should easily tell them that. I hope that it happens sometime in the near future. I agree, especially seeing how many trains are switched from being trains. That should've been done a long time ago. In fact they should redo all of the FINDS on the R142s because it looks really tacky seeing how they cut out little pieces of paper and stuck it over the old destination signs... lol Does anyone know if the R142As will be rehabbed at all before going over to the ? I mean those trains are going to take a beating on the with all the folks that ride that line. :eek: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted September 25, 2011 Share #443 Posted September 25, 2011 Does anyone know if the R142As will be rehabbed at all before going over to the ? I mean those trains are going to take a beating on the with all the folks that ride that line. :eek: They run the . They already take a beating every day. Just sayin'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted September 25, 2011 Share #444 Posted September 25, 2011 @via: tacky yes, but cheaper and cost efficient to replace segments of the strip map with a patch than to keep reprinting the entire map just for a few changes for a few months or such. The main point of the R142s on the 2/5 is for the electronic signs. the strip map inside is less of a concern. Better confusion over strip maps than wrong side signs on R62as. It's not a major issue about the strip maps. that should be when it comes time for those cars to get their mid life 'tune up'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted September 26, 2011 Share #445 Posted September 26, 2011 @via: tacky yes, but cheaper and cost efficient to replace segments of the strip map with a patch than to keep reprinting the entire map just for a few changes for a few months or such.The main point of the R142s on the 2/5 is for the electronic signs. the strip map inside is less of a concern. Better confusion over strip maps than wrong side signs on R62as. It's not a major issue about the strip maps. that should be when it comes time for those cars to get their mid life 'tune up'. Yeah, but when will that be? Besides, think about all of the man hours that are spent having to replace segments of it. It adds up over time and if the FINDs could be replaced once it would be a better experience overall for the passengers. I mean what good are the electronic signs if they are out of use because they are for the train instead of the ? On a side note, I like the automated buses on the M16 and M34. Had to go to the DMV this morning there on 34th and 8th and it is nice that they have that set up. They run the . They already take a beating every day. Just sayin'. True, but that train... I'm telling you, I've been on a subway line like that before. Really is insane riding that line. :eek: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted September 26, 2011 Share #446 Posted September 26, 2011 Yeah, but when will that be? Besides, think about all of the man hours that are spent having to replace segments of it. It adds up over time... Updating the strip maps takes the same amount of money and manpower as it does to replace the ads in all the trains. It's not like they use different workers to put those stickers onto the cardboard maps. Sure, it's less work for those guys, but at most, all it saves is a couple hundred bucks in printing costs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted September 26, 2011 Share #447 Posted September 26, 2011 True, but that train... I'm telling you, I've been on a subway line like that before. Really is insane riding that line. :eek: I rode it every day for the past four years before entering college. I know what I'm talking about. See, the thing is, you need to know when to ride the line to encounter the fewest crowds. Whenever that's not an option... sucks for you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisliz09 Posted September 27, 2011 Share #448 Posted September 27, 2011 http://www.nycsubway.org/cars/a-div-new-tech.html they are taking 350 cars from the Kawasaki R142As they have 600 so they will have 300 cars left on the line if you read it, it shows that. they arent taking any of the R142s at all and the idea that some of the (2)and(5)s are going to the (6)isnt true they will run both R62a and the left over R142a 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisliz09 Posted September 27, 2011 Share #449 Posted September 27, 2011 Yeah, but when will that be? Besides, think about all of the man hours that are spent having to replace segments of it. It adds up over time and if the FINDs could be replaced once it would be a better experience overall for the passengers. I mean what good are the electronic signs if they are out of use because they are for the train instead of the ? On a side note, I like the automated buses on the M16 and M34. Had to go to the DMV this morning there on 34th and 8th and it is nice that they have that set up. True, but that train... I'm telling you, I've been on a subway line like that before. Really is insane riding that line. :eek: funny you said that because they ordered new buses for the CNG depots they will start coming in in oct and they are very nice take a look. inside it tells you what stop your at and the next stop coming its fully automated.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6gJNi7R7cg 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentton316 Posted September 27, 2011 Share #450 Posted September 27, 2011 ok, maybe i'm late, but does anyone know what the R188's are gonna look like??? or sound like??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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