GojiMet86 Posted June 21, 2012 Share #26 Posted June 21, 2012 I've been on an downtown R62 that reached 51 mph around 59th Street and 50th Street. I've also been on an R40 that reached about 60 mph on the 59th Street tunnel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaica Line Posted June 21, 2012 Share #27 Posted June 21, 2012 I think it's more like 45 MPH. Still, pretty a great run IMO. I thought that Roosevelt Av - Queens Plaza/21 St-Queensbridge was faster.REALLY? Wow. Were you looking at the speedometer? Sometime ago TwoTimer did mention hitting 56 entering Newkirk... Those 68As have great braking ability. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share #28 Posted June 21, 2012 Can anyone tell me if there are timers all along the s/b from Union Sq-14 St to Brooklyn Bridge? It's hard to tell because of all of the usual Lexington line delays... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 CNG Posted June 22, 2012 Share #29 Posted June 22, 2012 Not sure how fast that train flew in but it seemed pretty quick in person! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted June 22, 2012 Author Share #30 Posted June 22, 2012 Wow, that was fast. 40-45 MPH, according to my calculation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted June 22, 2012 Share #31 Posted June 22, 2012 Not sure how fast that train flew in but it seemed pretty quick in person! You should see City College station on the northern end of the southbound platform. Because of the columns, the seems to explode into the station. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2train Posted June 22, 2012 Share #32 Posted June 22, 2012 Southbound trains fly into Franklin Ave, as long as there's no congestion and the T/O doesn't break early. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngblaze Posted June 22, 2012 Share #33 Posted June 22, 2012 Lol, they only do 25-30mph now. Are you sure about that? Very sure lol. After it crosses the first bridge and gets on to Broad Channel they would fly (this was about 10 years ago) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted June 22, 2012 Share #34 Posted June 22, 2012 I guess I was summoned again. Yes I was monitoring this, but did want to see what others had to say how fast they "thought" they was going in comparsion to how fast I "know" the train was actually going. With that said, I have divided all these "numbers" into three catagories... (average refers to a train which is neither good or bad, parenthesis indicate specific areas or equipment in the system) 1. The 50+ club - places where an average train can get to without too much difficulty. - 60th St tube southbound. - 60th St tube northbound. - entering Newkirk northbound (Brighton). - between Roosevelt and Queens Plaza/Queensbridge southbound. - 14st tube northbound. - 14st tube southbound. - Rutgers St tube northbound. - between 36st and Atlantic Av northbound (R160) 1a. The 50+ additions - places where a good train can get to (fine T/O operation may be needed). - between Herald Sq and West 4 southbound. - between 145th and 161st middle track (Concourse). - between Church and Newkirk southbound (R160). - between Kings Highway and Sheepshead Bay southbound (R160). - between 72nd and Times Square southbound (R142). - Joralemon tube southbound. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted June 23, 2012 Share #35 Posted June 23, 2012 If it weren't for the massive amount of timers in the river crossings, most of the tunnels have a long and steep enough grade for regular 50+ operation. TwoTimer, are you aware of the state of the 14th street tunnel before they installed CBTC? Was it timer ridden, like the rest of the East River crossings? Because obviously now, CBTC allows the to travel as fast as the train motors will move them (aside from the speed restrictions at curvy sections of track), although I'm bummed that when the CBTC screen is operational, the speedometer display is on the screen, and the Edo Speedo isn't used, so you can't see it through the cab hinges =/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4P3607 Posted June 23, 2012 Share #36 Posted June 23, 2012 hows about this B) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted June 23, 2012 Share #37 Posted June 23, 2012 (edited) hows about this B) [media=] [/media] As the first line in the video goes, the faqqqqq???? LOL that is shit fast haha. Edited June 23, 2012 by Fan Railer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alejr88 Posted June 23, 2012 Share #38 Posted June 23, 2012 Man that R62 was kicking today. It must have been 45-50 mph from 96-72 southbound. Man that ride was fast, I found it faster than 72-42. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted June 23, 2012 Author Share #39 Posted June 23, 2012 Alright, here's one: R46 train speed: 45 MPH 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted June 23, 2012 Share #40 Posted June 23, 2012 No R62's can reach 45-50 between 96-72. Part of the reasoning the older trains (R62/R32 are the usual suspects) "seem" faster is because there is less insulation and they rock more, therefore railfans think they're actually going faster. A R62 can rock like heck and sound all loud yet be only going 35-38, which generally is what they can get, only reaching 40 right outside of 72nd. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted June 23, 2012 Author Share #41 Posted June 23, 2012 No R62's can reach 45-50 between 96-72. Part of the reasoning the older trains (R62/R32 are the usual suspects) "seem" faster is because there is less insulation and they rock more, therefore railfans think they're actually going faster. A R62 can rock like heck and sound all loud yet be only going 35-38, which generally is what they can get, only reaching 40 right outside of 72nd. Yeah, that's true, although I find the R32s to be much louder than the R62s. Who knows... Anyway, can you tell me how fast the s/b 4 Av express is from Atlantic Av to 36 St? That would be much appreciated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted June 23, 2012 Share #42 Posted June 23, 2012 No R62's can reach 45-50 between 96-72. Part of the reasoning the older trains (R62/R32 are the usual suspects) "seem" faster is because there is less insulation and they rock more, therefore railfans think they're actually going faster. A R62 can rock like heck and sound all loud yet be only going 35-38, which generally is what they can get, only reaching 40 right outside of 72nd. Regular riders think the same thing as well. I remember when I rode a R62 train a few years ago (The line was mostly NTT for a couple years now) and these two teenagers got on and said "These old shits are faster than the new shits" Implying that the 62 is faster than the 142/A, which isn't the case. Its crazy though as the B cars on the IRT NTT only one truck has motors where's with the 62/A all the trucks have motors, and yet the 142/A take off faster, it would have dope if all the trucks on the IRT NTT had motors though, the R160s seem faster. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B3 Via Av U Posted June 23, 2012 Share #43 Posted June 23, 2012 R160s seem faster. The R160s are fast, they have reached 53 miles per hour on the northbound stretch between Prospect Park and Seventh Avenue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted June 23, 2012 Author Share #44 Posted June 23, 2012 Its crazy though as the B cars on the IRT NTT only one truck has motors where's with the 62/A all the trucks have motors, and yet the 142/A take off faster, it would have dope if all the trucks on the IRT NTT had motors though, the R160s seem faster. It makes sense, understanding that the R142 motors have 147.5 hp while the R62 motors have 115. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaica Line Posted June 23, 2012 Share #45 Posted June 23, 2012 No R62's can reach 45-50 between 96-72. Part of the reasoning the older trains (R62/R32 are the usual suspects) "seem" faster is because there is less insulation and they rock more, therefore railfans think they're actually going faster. A R62 can rock like heck and sound all loud yet be only going 35-38, which generally is what they can get, only reaching 40 right outside of 72nd. Thou the 32s come third behind the 160s 'n 142s? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted June 23, 2012 Author Share #46 Posted June 23, 2012 Thou the 32s come third behind the 160s 'n 142s? Probably, yes, because of their light weight. Next is probably the R62/A, and then the R68/A. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted June 23, 2012 Share #47 Posted June 23, 2012 It makes sense, understanding that the R142 motors have 147.5 hp while the R62 motors have 115. You also have to take into consideration that AC traction has a wider tractive effort curve through its speed range, which allows for more constant acceleration and for longer at the lower operating speeds. NTT's accelerate continuously to about 30 mph, while the older DC cars level out around 25 mph or so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted June 23, 2012 Share #48 Posted June 23, 2012 As far as s/b 4Av express: 40mph R68/A before timers, ~43 R160. Anyone else with specific questions feel free to ask me directly or in this thread. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j express Posted June 23, 2012 Share #49 Posted June 23, 2012 (edited) What's the speed of R68/A s/b exp between 36st and 59st? Edited June 23, 2012 by j express 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted June 24, 2012 Share #50 Posted June 24, 2012 You're lucky, I was rerouted to the Sea Beach two days ago because of a code failure on the west end (the entire west end from 9Av-62nd down in both directions). I didn't get to 40 at all, but 160s commonly enter 59th at 41. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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