R10 2952 Posted November 12, 2016 Share #2851 Posted November 12, 2016 Opening one station while keeping others closed would defeat the whole purpose of relieving the Lexington Avenue Local in the first place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caelestor Posted November 13, 2016 Share #2852 Posted November 13, 2016 If one station had to be delayed, it would be 86 St, which lies between the terminal and the southernmost stop on the new line. If 72 St and 96 St aren't open, it's not worth opening the line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porter Posted November 13, 2016 Share #2853 Posted November 13, 2016 If one station had to be delayed, it would be 86 St, which lies between the terminal and the southernmost stop on the new line. If 72 St and 96 St aren't open, it's not worth opening the line. Okay, so let's say that 86th Street is put on hold immediately with all of those efforts redirected to 72nd Street. Would it be enough to get the line open on time? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted November 13, 2016 Share #2854 Posted November 13, 2016 What is the obsession with opening on time? Get it right or don't open. It's not like the residents of Second Avenue aren't used to waiting. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrome Posted November 13, 2016 Share #2855 Posted November 13, 2016 What is the obsession with opening on time? Get it right or don't open. It's not like the residents of Second Avenue aren't used to waiting. It's all Cuomo. It sounds like it would already be delayed if it weren't for pressure from Cuomo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far rockaway Posted November 13, 2016 Share #2856 Posted November 13, 2016 I hope the MTA can make phase 2 happen or start construction of it before 2020. That seems like a long time to start construction of that phase. It seems in my perspective phase 2 doesn't need that much work done and you already have an existing tunnel that was built in the 1970's and i know some of that tunnel has to be rebuilt but it shouldn't take long to rebuilt that part of the tunnel. And I think an 125 street crosstown subway would be a good idea and i think that should be part of phase 2 also if possible and if not it be part of phase 3 if the MTA can't build a fully second ave subway. I would also like to see phase 2 complete before 2020. This is my first time seeing a subway being built. Just my thought on the second avenue subway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted November 13, 2016 Share #2857 Posted November 13, 2016 I hope the MTA can make phase 2 happen or start construction of it before 2020. That seems like a long time to start construction of that phase. It seems in my perspective phase 2 doesn't need that much work done and you already have an existing tunnel that was built in the 1970's and i know some of that tunnel has to be rebuilt but it shouldn't take long to rebuilt that part of the tunnel. And I think an 125 street crosstown subway would be a good idea and i think that should be part of phase 2 also if possible and if not it be part of phase 3 if the MTA can't build a fully second ave subway. I would also like to see phase 2 complete before 2020. This is my first time seeing a subway being built. Just my thought on the second avenue subway. The problem isn't the tunnels, the problem is fitting out the tunnels and building the stations (since none exist). Actually building the tunnels is fairly easy relative to the rest of the project. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porter Posted November 13, 2016 Share #2858 Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) What is the obsession with opening on time? Get it right or don't open. It's not like the residents of Second Avenue aren't used to waiting. It's because if the SAS doesn't open on time, despite their vehement, impassioned promises, what reason would we have to ever trust the 's word again? We might as well write them off entirely as grossly unreliable and never get our hopes up for any of their future projects ever again. Is that really what we've come to expect of the ? Edited November 13, 2016 by Skipper 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted November 13, 2016 Share #2859 Posted November 13, 2016 You're a bit late to the party; unreliability and incompetence have been the defining hallmarks of the MTA and their political overlords in Albany for well over 35 years... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted November 13, 2016 Share #2860 Posted November 13, 2016 It's because if the SAS doesn't open on time, despite their vehement, impassioned promises, what reason would we have to ever trust the 's word again? We might as well write them off entirely as grossly unreliable and never get our hopes up for any of their future projects ever again. Is that really what we've come to expect of the ? Don't we do that already? It isn't some state secret that MTA projects are notoriously overpriced, over budget and run well beyond the original schedule. Look at any project under the MTA umbrella and you'll see how delayed it's been. I'd give an example, but I'm pretty sure you can find one on your own. You're a bit late to the party; unreliability and incompetence have been the defining hallmarks of the MTA and their political overlords in Albany for well over 35 years... Just 35 years? We haven't had a significant MTA project complete on time since its inception in '68. The post-Sept. 11th and Sandy recovery projects don't count because that's the only time the state's willing to remove all the red tape usually involved in government work. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted November 13, 2016 Share #2861 Posted November 13, 2016 Don't we do that already? It isn't some state secret that MTA projects are notoriously overpriced, over budget and run well beyond the original schedule. Look at any project under the MTA umbrella and you'll see how delayed it's been. I'd give an example, but I'm pretty sure you can find one on your own. Just 35 years? We haven't had a significant MTA project complete on time since its inception in '68. The post-Sept. 11th and Sandy recovery projects don't count because that's the only time the state's willing to remove all the red tape usually involved in government work. You know come to think of it, the Montague rebuild is the only thing I can think of that actually finished early lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted November 13, 2016 Share #2862 Posted November 13, 2016 Exactly. I'm still waiting for them to reopen the elevators at 21 Street. They're supposed to be back in service by the end of the month. Any takers on the over/under? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted November 14, 2016 Share #2863 Posted November 14, 2016 At this rate if they manage to open it this year it'll be at December 31st, 2016 11:59:59 PM. Then January 1st, 2017 12:00:00 AM there will be a service "Due to a power failure at 72nd St Q trains are terminating at 57th st." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porter Posted November 14, 2016 Share #2864 Posted November 14, 2016 They could plan a little 'accident' to delay their otherwise 'on-track' opening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted November 14, 2016 Share #2865 Posted November 14, 2016 They could plan a little 'accident' to delay their otherwise 'on-track' opening. That would damage their reputation more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted November 14, 2016 Share #2866 Posted November 14, 2016 They could plan a little 'accident' to delay their otherwise 'on-track' opening. They could also give me all their money. Both have an equally likely chance of being seen as 'good'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted November 15, 2016 Share #2867 Posted November 15, 2016 Was along Second Avenue today- station entrances aren't even halfway done, there's still big holes in the ground... no way in hell this project will be ready by December 31st. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted November 18, 2016 Share #2868 Posted November 18, 2016 quick questions 1. can the 2nd ave subway when FULLY built support 3 services 2. will there be bellmouths at the bronx end incase they build there i know there will be bellmouths before they curve off to 125 and park 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porter Posted November 18, 2016 Share #2869 Posted November 18, 2016 Is there a reason that the is still called the Broadway Local instead of the Broadway Express on the website? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted November 18, 2016 Share #2870 Posted November 18, 2016 Is there a reason that the is still called the Broadway Local instead of the Broadway Express on the website?Probably an oversight 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted November 18, 2016 Share #2871 Posted November 18, 2016 quick questions 1. can the 2nd ave subway when FULLY built support 3 services 2. will there be bellmouths at the bronx end incase they build there i know there will be bellmouths before they curve off to 125 and park 1. Yes, technically, but not 3 all on the same stretch of track. One going from 125 to Broadway, one from 125 to Hanover, and one from the 63 St tunnel to Hanover. 2. Yes, there are going to be storage tracks pointing northwards from 125th and 2nd for both a new storage yard and a future extension to the Bronx. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted November 18, 2016 Share #2872 Posted November 18, 2016 Is there a reason that the is still called the Broadway Local instead of the Broadway Express on the website?The same reason why the W still has transfer announcements from 2010. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted November 18, 2016 Share #2873 Posted November 18, 2016 1. Yes, technically, but not 3 all on the same stretch of track. One going from 125 to Broadway, one from 125 to Hanover, and one from the 63 St tunnel to Hanover. 2. Yes, there are going to be storage tracks pointing northwards from 125th and 2nd for both a new storage yard and a future extension to the Bronx. i should have said for #2 will there be a bellmouth to say build in the bronx at a later time 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porter Posted November 19, 2016 Share #2874 Posted November 19, 2016 I've been bombarding the with emails asking them to update specific sections of the website for the service (using their official forms and referencing specific URLs), they've replied that they'd look into these oversights, and yet nothing has changed after a week. As a former webmaster myself, I can tell you that these small details are not time-consuming, difficult, or costly at all to change. The only reasonable explanation is that it's simply not a priority for them, and the sun will continue to rise with or without an accurate website. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted November 20, 2016 Share #2875 Posted November 20, 2016 (edited) saw a picture that the walls to the 2nd ave platform at lexington 63rd street on queensbound/uptown platform have been torn down Edited November 20, 2016 by BreeddekalbL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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