trainfan22 Posted June 19, 2022 Share #2226 Posted June 19, 2022 I finally got to ride the train to Port Jeff on Friday, 1:46 out of Jamaica. There was an railfan filming the train leaving Jamaica and some filming at Queens Village, anybody here? Was a pretty nice ride, great way to spend an summer afternoon in the A/C since it was hot and humid on Friday and I hate the heat. Sadly the waiting room at port jeff was closed so I had to wait outside for the W/B train back to Jamaica. There was only one bench on the platform inside an shelter but someone was smoking in there. It was slightly cooler in Port Jeff compared to the city while humid, it was somewhat tolerable. The W/B run was really busy and connecting train to Penn at Jamaica was crowded like an subway train. Next up is riding to Speonk and then I can say I ridden all the commuter limits of the LIRR system. Probably will never ride out to Montauk or Greenport. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted June 26, 2022 Share #2227 Posted June 26, 2022 Page 45 of this MTA PDF file has a rendering of the new Metro North Locomotives, looks nice! Sadly no renderings for LIRR even though they plan to purchase the same locomotives to replace DE/DM30s. https://new.mta.info/document/89781 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted June 27, 2022 Share #2228 Posted June 27, 2022 On 6/25/2022 at 8:00 PM, trainfan22 said: Page 45 of this MTA PDF file has a rendering of the new Metro North Locomotives, looks nice! Sadly no renderings for LIRR even though they plan to purchase the same locomotives to replace DE/DM30s. https://new.mta.info/document/89781 For future reference: in pdfs you can link directly to the page number like so: https://new.mta.info/document/89781#page=45 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted June 30, 2022 Share #2229 Posted June 30, 2022 On 6/17/2022 at 10:35 PM, checkmatechamp13 said: Over in Philadelphia, one of the things they are considering for their Regional Rail redesign is having Amtrak trains function as the express trains, and off-peak would be all-local service on the SEPTA end, but you could use your SEPTA ticket on Amtrak if you lived near an express stop. (I think the scheduling would be in a way that makes the Amtrak trains come consistently every hour, compared to now where they run at fairly random times). Not saying that its impossible to do here, but the situation in SEPTA land is different because the service in question is run by Amtrak for the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania which funds it. They can simply say we'll pay you to run a train every hour in a way that the MTA couldn't unless it involves the Empire Service (which is funded directly by New York State). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted July 19, 2022 Share #2230 Posted July 19, 2022 (edited) LIRR confirmed their coming back https://www.newsday.com/amp/long-island/transportation/lirr-m3-train-cars-m9-ygpbfp8a Edited July 19, 2022 by trainfan22 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted July 19, 2022 Share #2231 Posted July 19, 2022 The M3s will be staying on the LIRR up to 2027 from what was seen on the newspaper or other database articles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted July 19, 2022 Share #2232 Posted July 19, 2022 I think it would be best to keep the M3s geared primarily toward Brooklyn. West Hempstead and the shuttle will help keep the wear down, thereby avoiding the problems we see with the R46s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted July 20, 2022 Share #2233 Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, Lex said: I think it would be best to keep the M3s geared primarily toward Brooklyn. West Hempstead and the shuttle will help keep the wear down, thereby avoiding the problems we see with the R46s. Those Brooklyn shuttles will run on 15 minute headways... not exactly a light workload. Also those LIRR M3s got a mechanical overhaul so they shouldn't be as beat up as were when they last was in service. In the "M7 era" it was very rare to see M3s in service in the masses outside of rush hour. There would be like two to three sets in service off peak/weekends at most. I would imagine the M3 usage would be mainly rush hour runs to and from NYP when they come back. Edited July 20, 2022 by trainfan22 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 20, 2022 Share #2234 Posted July 20, 2022 11 hours ago, trainfan22 said: Those Brooklyn shuttles will run on 15 minute headways... not exactly a light workload. Also those LIRR M3s got a mechanical overhaul so they shouldn't be as beat up as were when they last was in service. In the "M7 era" it was very rare to see M3s in service in the masses outside of rush hour. There would be like two to three sets in service off peak/weekends at most. I would imagine the M3 usage would be mainly rush hour runs to and from NYP when they come back. Please. You'd have a valid point if it was MNRR, but the difference in upkeep between the LIRR and MNRR is night and day. I'm sure the return of the torn seats with duct tape will return. Never rode one before, but I've seen plenty of them in service with people complaining. The times I have used the LIRR, I wasn't that impressed with the condition of the trains either. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted July 27, 2022 Share #2235 Posted July 27, 2022 LIRR canceled the battery powered MU project, claiming it isn't feasible. The article is on Newsday website, but behind a paywall. As a railfan, I'm so happy about this news Diesel branches should be locomotives and passenger cars, also they can share the same pool of equipment with the other diesel branches rather than have Oyster Bay have an oddball battery powered fleet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtatransit Posted July 27, 2022 Share #2236 Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) 58 minutes ago, trainfan22 said: LIRR canceled the battery powered MU project, claiming it isn't feasible. The article is on Newsday website, but behind a paywall. As a railfan, I'm so happy about this news Diesel branches should be locomotives and passenger cars, also they can share the same pool of equipment with the other diesel branches rather than have Oyster Bay have an oddball battery powered fleet. The problem now is that LIRR barely have enough equipment in its diesel pool for regular service, let alone service service expansion, and/or summer service increases to the Hamptons. It wasn't that long ago when they had to cancel some service over the summer to meet service, and/or run trains that are short Edited July 27, 2022 by Mtatransit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted July 27, 2022 Share #2237 Posted July 27, 2022 1 hour ago, trainfan22 said: LIRR canceled the battery powered MU project, claiming it isn't feasible. The article is on Newsday website, but behind a paywall. As a railfan, I'm so happy about this news Diesel branches should be locomotives and passenger cars, also they can share the same pool of equipment with the other diesel branches rather than have Oyster Bay have an oddball battery powered fleet. In that case, electrify everything. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtatransit Posted July 27, 2022 Share #2238 Posted July 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, Lex said: In that case, electrify everything. I will start with buying reliable off the shelf diesel equipment first. And buy enough of them to meet service expansion, not "just" replacing today's fleet 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted July 27, 2022 Share #2239 Posted July 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Mtatransit said: The problem now is that LIRR barely have enough equipment in its diesel pool for regular service, let alone service service expansion, and/or summer service increases to the Hamptons. It wasn't that long ago when they had to cancel some service over the summer to meet service, and/or run trains that are short They should order a surplus of Diesel equipment whenever the current fleet is up for retirement. Or lease cars from other railroads like they did with MARC a couple summers ago. But I heard Port Jeff riders hated the MARC cars so that's probably why they didn't do it again. 1 hour ago, Lex said: In that case, electrify everything. Electrification costs 18 MILLION per mile, I don't think the entire LIRR system will be 100 percent 3rd rail anytime soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted July 27, 2022 Share #2240 Posted July 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Mtatransit said: I will start with buying reliable off the shelf diesel equipment first. And buy enough of them to meet service expansion, not "just" replacing today's fleet I wouldn't. Fossil fuels take far too long to renew and burning them pollutes the air. I'm not sure if you've actually tried breathing around a diesel locomotive, but I have -- in electric territory, no less. Hard pass. 1 hour ago, trainfan22 said: Electrification costs 18 MILLION per mile, I don't think the entire LIRR system will be 100 percent 3rd rail anytime soon. And that price will only inflate so long as we sit on our asses. The sooner it gets done, the better off we'll be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimB Posted July 28, 2022 Share #2241 Posted July 28, 2022 Here's a 2025 LIRR map 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtatransit Posted July 29, 2022 Share #2242 Posted July 29, 2022 On 7/27/2022 at 7:41 PM, Lex said: I wouldn't. Fossil fuels take far too long to renew and burning them pollutes the air. I'm not sure if you've actually tried breathing around a diesel locomotive, but I have -- in electric territory, no less. Hard pass It’s simply not realistic for the MTA to even think about electrification at this time. Everything cost billions and will drag out for years Even if we start tomorrow it will probably be a good 20-30 years before the entire system is done C3s can not last for that long. The best we can hope for is for cleaner diesel locomotives now, or wait until battery electrification to reach mainstream. The LIRR due to its own fault, failed to order enough diesel equipment to meet todays service Plus you have some branches that makes no economical sense to electrify such as Oyster Bay and East of KO, with its 40mph MAS and dark signaling in some case 22 hours ago, EphraimB said: Here's a 2025 LIRR map Might as well add a couple more lines going north to south if we are going to do a fantasy LIRR map My dream also includes a Port Washington - Hempstead- Freeport, maybe Wading River, Riverhead to Montauk via Sag Harbor. Will it happen ever? No 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted July 30, 2022 Share #2243 Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) Ok so I was looking at the service status of the and on the suspension of service to Jamaica I noticed this paragraph on the bottom Quote LIRR will cross-honor MetroCard at Atlantic Terminal Accessbility, Nostrand Av Accessbility, East New York, Jamaica Accessbility, Hollis, Queens Village Accessbility, St Albans, Locust Manor, Laurelton, and Rosedale Accessbility. Click here to check LIRR schedules. https://new.mta.info/map/21841 Has anyone tried to do this yet, especially for trips past Jamaica? Edited July 30, 2022 by IAlam 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OIG119 Posted July 30, 2022 Share #2244 Posted July 30, 2022 30 minutes ago, IAlam said: Ok so I was looking at the service status of the and on the suspension of service to Jamaica I noticed this paragraph on the bottom https://new.mta.info/map/21841 Has anyone tried to do this yet, especially for trips past Jamaica? A few days ago I was able to ride from Atlantic Terminal to Queens Village with just a MetroCard. I have also used it for a few trips from Atlantic Terminal to Nassau County which required me to change at Jamaica by buying a ticket from Jamaica to wherever my final destination was and using my MetroCard to ride between Jamaica and Atlantic Terminal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted July 31, 2022 Share #2245 Posted July 31, 2022 I was thinking while riding on the Long Beach train this afternoon, the LIRR missed out when it came to the Far Rockaway branch. Long Beach trains get really packed during the summer weekends and if the Far Rockaway were to terminate closer to Rockaway Beach, I bet it would attract those summer beach crowds. It’s current terminal is not even at the main strip over there on Mott Ave where the train is so it is definitely an after thought. I shocked to see one night at around 10pm an almost standing room only train from Long Beach heading towards Penn Station. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted July 31, 2022 Share #2246 Posted July 31, 2022 1 hour ago, NewFlyer 230 said: I was thinking while riding on the Long Beach train this afternoon, the LIRR missed out when it came to the Far Rockaway branch. Long Beach trains get really packed during the summer weekends and if the Far Rockaway were to terminate closer to Rockaway Beach, I bet it would attract those summer beach crowds. It’s current terminal is not even at the main strip over there on Mott Ave where the train is so it is definitely an after thought. I shocked to see one night at around 10pm an almost standing room only train from Long Beach heading towards Penn Station. Funny thing is the line in the Rockaways use to be apart of the LIRR until they abandoned the Rockaway Beach branch. I guess the LIRR wasn't intrested in Rockaway Beach service. Nice to hear that weekend Long Beach trains are busy to Long Beach as it's an nice little beach town IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted August 2, 2022 Share #2247 Posted August 2, 2022 LIRR M3's returned to service today on the Babylon Branch 4:37PM out of Penn to Wantagh. A railfan on Youtube caught it...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missabassie Posted August 3, 2022 Share #2248 Posted August 3, 2022 Cosmopolitans ride again. Nice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted August 12, 2022 Share #2249 Posted August 12, 2022 MTA plans to merge the ETIX app, LIRR & MNR traintime apps into one app sometime this month. So much better than having three separate apps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted August 13, 2022 Share #2250 Posted August 13, 2022 Has Belmont Park ever been used as a terminal during planned service changes or service disruptions? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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