bobtehpanda Posted May 28, 2021 Share #2051 Posted May 28, 2021 9 hours ago, Lex said: I hope it is. My concern is that he's jumping the gun just to make himself look good. Remember when Bloomberg declared Hudson Yards finished? lol. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted May 28, 2021 Share #2052 Posted May 28, 2021 I don't think he's getting ahead with this one. He's eyeing that December/January target again, like the Second Avenue subway and Moynihan Hall, both January 1, even if they still have some minor work to be done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted May 28, 2021 Share #2053 Posted May 28, 2021 I remember someone saying Jan 2022 but others are saying Dec 2022. This was around when Moynihan opened. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted May 28, 2021 Share #2054 Posted May 28, 2021 4 hours ago, GojiMet86 said: I don't think he's getting ahead with this one. He's eyeing that December/January target again, like the Second Avenue subway and Moynihan Hall, both January 1, even if they still have some minor work to be done. That and he's probably trying to distract people from the impeachment investigations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted May 31, 2021 Share #2055 Posted May 31, 2021 On 5/28/2021 at 11:35 AM, R10 2952 said: That and he's probably trying to distract people from the impeachment investigations. The dude is delusional enough to think he could get term 4, the first governor in history to do so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted May 31, 2021 Share #2056 Posted May 31, 2021 Nelson Rockefeller was elected to a fourth term, in 1970. Anything more than two terms is definitely too long, though. Hugh Carey was the only governor in recent memory to abide by that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted June 1, 2021 Share #2057 Posted June 1, 2021 3 hours ago, R10 2952 said: Nelson Rockefeller was elected to a fourth term, in 1970. Anything more than two terms is definitely too long, though. Hugh Carey was the only governor in recent memory to abide by that. Unlike Rockefeller Cuomo might actually finish his fourth term. (I don't think he's delusional enough to think he could win national office ever again. I also don't know that he has any place in the Biden administration.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPC324 Posted June 5, 2021 Share #2058 Posted June 5, 2021 On 5/27/2021 at 6:10 PM, Lex said: I hope it is. My concern is that he's jumping the gun just to make himself look good. I think he's looking ahead and doesn't expect to be governor when the project is actually completed, so he has this press conference to claim the project for his legacy instead of the next gov. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted June 6, 2021 Share #2059 Posted June 6, 2021 Cuomo is definitely living in his own head if he expects to be remembered fondly. The public are tired of him, people in the state-level party have had enough of him, and apparently the Biden administration is turning their back to him as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted June 6, 2021 Share #2060 Posted June 6, 2021 7 hours ago, R10 2952 said: Cuomo is definitely living in his own head if he expects to be remembered fondly. The public are tired of him, people in the state-level party have had enough of him, and apparently the Biden administration is turning their back to him as well. All that matters is if he could be elected again, and the answer is yes, so people aren't that tired of him. The scandals have subsided a bit. This New York Times article was from April... https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/15/nyregion/cuomo-resign-sexual-harrassment-poll.html If anyone is hated in this City, it's de Blasio, the most incompetent mayor in NY history. Cuomo is a lot of things, bit he's not a stupid man. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznit1987 Posted June 13, 2021 Share #2061 Posted June 13, 2021 Any idea on when Platform F at Jamaica will see any usage, or is that part n' parcel of when ESA opens? As for Cuomo, the problem is once you get past him and perhaps Letita James, the state level Democratic Party is quickly being taken over by the DSA crowd. Centrist/Moderate Dems are just about gone outside of some of the working class sections of the city like SE Queens or Staten Island. What's being brought forth nowadays is this: https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-democratic-socialists-abolish-private-property-albany-primaries-20191007-gtpqefrosrfybpdul4dbvaf6ym-story.html Hopefully the NYS Republican Party gets a clue and dumps Trump and embraces the Bloombergs and Herman Badillos of the world who were centrist in their world view. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted June 14, 2021 Share #2062 Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, shiznit1987 said: Any idea on when Platform F at Jamaica will see any usage, or is that part n' parcel of when ESA opens? Platform F had a couple of evening shuttles between Jamaica and Atlantic Terminal right when COVID hit. When I tell you right when COVID hit, I literally mean these shuttles barely lasted two or three weeks until the stay at home restrictions kicked in last year. Edited June 14, 2021 by paulrivera 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted June 23, 2021 Share #2063 Posted June 23, 2021 Today their was 2-3 sets of Metro North M3s running in service during the midday hours, nice! The runs I rode were all M7s but it's nice to see the old classics running in off peak service. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted June 23, 2021 Share #2064 Posted June 23, 2021 49 minutes ago, trainfan22 said: Today their was 2-3 sets of Metro North M3s running in service during the midday hours, nice! The runs I rode were all M7s but it's nice to see the old classics running in off peak service. I wish it was able to list train numbers like the LIRR Train Time app does. I want to be able to get some rides on them when possible (likely weekends, but tough chance with that I suppose), but not knowing where they are/run is a turnoff with how relatively few of them there are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted June 24, 2021 Share #2065 Posted June 24, 2021 1 hour ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said: I wish it was able to list train numbers like the LIRR Train Time app does. I want to be able to get some rides on them when possible (likely weekends, but tough chance with that I suppose), but not knowing where they are/run is a turnoff with how relatively few of them there are. The next big schedule change is penciled in for August, just hang in there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted July 6, 2021 Share #2066 Posted July 6, 2021 I saw two sets of M3’s on the storage tracks at the Long Beach Station. I thought they were all gone by this point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted July 7, 2021 Share #2067 Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) This may be a counter that's off, but one of the M9 sets in service right now (on a Babylon Branch train) has a car that apparently has 180 people on it. Edit: So I kept looking and it went down to 175 after Wantagh, then went down to 10 after Seaford. IDK if I trust that though, because I find it odd how so many people would congregate on that one car (and the others around them had space). Edited July 7, 2021 by BM5 via Woodhaven 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsunflyguy Posted July 8, 2021 Share #2068 Posted July 8, 2021 3 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said: This may be a counter that's off, but one of the M9 sets in service right now (on a Babylon Branch train) has a car that apparently has 180 people on it. Edit: So I kept looking and it went down to 175 after Wantagh, then went down to 10 after Seaford. IDK if I trust that though, because I find it odd how so many people would congregate on that one car (and the others around them had space). Its not odd at all to see riders congregate in one or two cars with no reverence for nearby space. Trains to Atlantic Terminal are front packed. I've operated many trains this week alone where the last car of a diesel train would be packed but the next three cars would significantly empty, it is my experience that once a passenger decides on a car they will not leave it unless they discover the car won't platform (or if they're looking for a working bathroom). I operated train 126 for several weeks recently at the time it was the busiest train on the railroad with 900-1200 passengers. Even with the astronomical patronage my car would be entirely full, even with standees, all the way to Merrick where a crowd got off and by Bellmore the car was entirely empty. It could very well be a glitch but it is just as possible to be legitimate. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 8, 2021 Share #2069 Posted July 8, 2021 18 hours ago, Jsunflyguy said: Its not odd at all to see riders congregate in one or two cars with no reverence for nearby space. Trains to Atlantic Terminal are front packed. I've operated many trains this week alone where the last car of a diesel train would be packed but the next three cars would significantly empty, it is my experience that once a passenger decides on a car they will not leave it unless they discover the car won't platform (or if they're looking for a working bathroom). I operated train 126 for several weeks recently at the time it was the busiest train on the railroad with 900-1200 passengers. Even with the astronomical patronage my car would be entirely full, even with standees, all the way to Merrick where a crowd got off and by Bellmore the car was entirely empty. It could very well be a glitch but it is just as possible to be legitimate. Something else that happens is if a train is on a line where the platforms are short, that will mean more people packed into certain cars, as some train cars will not platform. Then you have people that pick certain cars because of which exit it puts them near, so yeah, I totally agree with you and see it on trains that I ride. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted August 20, 2021 Share #2070 Posted August 20, 2021 On 7/7/2021 at 6:07 PM, Jsunflyguy said: Its not odd at all to see riders congregate in one or two cars with no reverence for nearby space. Trains to Atlantic Terminal are front packed. I've operated many trains this week alone where the last car of a diesel train would be packed but the next three cars would significantly empty, it is my experience that once a passenger decides on a car they will not leave it unless they discover the car won't platform (or if they're looking for a working bathroom). I operated train 126 for several weeks recently at the time it was the busiest train on the railroad with 900-1200 passengers. Even with the astronomical patronage my car would be entirely full, even with standees, all the way to Merrick where a crowd got off and by Bellmore the car was entirely empty. It could very well be a glitch but it is just as possible to be legitimate. Yeah, this is part of why systems around the world, even rail systems, are moving towards some open gangways; mentally, people start thinking of a consist as "one car" and are more likely to move along to where seating is available. Now obviously a 12-car set with only two cabs would be ridiculous, but two or four car sets with open gangways would probably be fine; the LIRR and MNR are already using married pairs, there's not a good reason why at the very least they couldn't be joined together with an open gangway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsunflyguy Posted August 21, 2021 Share #2071 Posted August 21, 2021 2 hours ago, bobtehpanda said: Yeah, this is part of why systems around the world, even rail systems, are moving towards some open gangways; mentally, people start thinking of a consist as "one car" and are more likely to move along to where seating is available. Now obviously a 12-car set with only two cabs would be ridiculous, but two or four car sets with open gangways would probably be fine; the LIRR and MNR are already using married pairs, there's not a good reason why at the very least they couldn't be joined together with an open gangway. The M9s are almost open gangway with the automatic door. Im not really sold on it, but Im not against it either, though just doing a quick google only shows the Japanese really embracing the concept for heavy rail with BR and DSB dabbling in it. Another thing to consider with greater than 2 car units is track capacity. If you use 4 units youre condeming a lot of branches to 8 car service since places like Far Rock cany support 12 car trains and Brooklyn would have a lot of difficulty as well. You can get away with 3 car units, though thats not much better with 6 or 9 cars. 9 cars may not cut it even with extra seats in a trailer car, but who knows. Short platforms would get really interesting, but thats another story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted August 21, 2021 Share #2072 Posted August 21, 2021 15 hours ago, Jsunflyguy said: The M9s are almost open gangway with the automatic door. Im not really sold on it, but Im not against it either, though just doing a quick google only shows the Japanese really embracing the concept for heavy rail with BR and DSB dabbling in it. Stadler FLIRT and KISS are open-gangway pairs. As far as commuter rail service, the Copenhagen S-tog, the S-Bahn systems of Germany, NS in the Netherlands, the Paris Transilien, Stockholm commuter rail, etc. all use open gangways. It's hard to find a recent European rolling stock order for regional or commuter services without open gangways. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted August 21, 2021 Share #2073 Posted August 21, 2021 15 hours ago, Jsunflyguy said: Another thing to consider with greater than 2 car units is track capacity. If you use 4 units youre condeming a lot of branches to 8 car service since places like Far Rock cany support 12 car trains and Brooklyn would have a lot of difficulty as well. You can get away with 3 car units, though thats not much better with 6 or 9 cars. 9 cars may not cut it even with extra seats in a trailer car, but who knows. Short platforms would get really interesting, but thats another story. Is there a map of platform lengths at stations? I'm kind of curious as to how many stations would actually need lengthening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsunflyguy Posted August 22, 2021 Share #2074 Posted August 22, 2021 An official, public one no. Ithink LIRR42 made one, some of it is no longer accurate given its age. But nothing really needs to be lengthened in terms of platforms, simply open the cars that are appropriate. If you go with a 3 set the trains actually get shorter, though the number of cars that can be opened decreases because of rules and regs (at least assuming the middle car is a simple trailer with no safety accessories). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsunflyguy Posted August 22, 2021 Share #2075 Posted August 22, 2021 6 hours ago, bobtehpanda said: Stadler FLIRT and KISS are open-gangway pairs. As far as commuter rail service, the Copenhagen S-tog, the S-Bahn systems of Germany, NS in the Netherlands, the Paris Transilien, Stockholm commuter rail, etc. all use open gangways. It's hard to find a recent European rolling stock order for regional or commuter services without open gangways. I was specifically referring to walk through MU equipment, all semi-permenant married units could be open gangway with a sturdier rubber hood. I dont think gangway pairs will improve passenger flow as people will walk 1 or 2 cars and then be unable to move. Especially in a 9 or 12 car train I cant see people de/re-embariking over the course of multiple stops (since trains like the Kiss/Flirt dont allow movement inter-unit). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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