checkmatechamp13 Posted November 11, 2012 Share #901 Posted November 11, 2012 I had a feeling that was the case MWAHHAHAHAHA. I have a sneaky idea that uses existing resources to cut down operating costs based on how empty some buses are and full the paralleled line next to it is thank you for confirming my theory. Lemme guess. Something involving extending the Q64? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted November 11, 2012 Share #902 Posted November 11, 2012 Lemme guess. Something involving extending the Q64? NOPE you failed. Try again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted November 11, 2012 Author Share #903 Posted November 11, 2012 A reroute of the Q7 and have that go into the Airport to the Post Office Q6 split runs going to Farmers Blvd and going to Terminal 4 via 150th St Q111 LIMITED to Francis Lewis Blvd... Add on more runs to the short trips to Farmers Blvd and 140th Ave Create a new short trip to 243rd St/Huxley Q113/Q113 LIMITED remain the same I've said this before, I'll say it again. Guy R Brewer shouldn't have 2 LTD's 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted November 11, 2012 Share #904 Posted November 11, 2012 Lemme guess. Something involving extending the Q64? Something tells me it's the Q26 being cut 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted November 12, 2012 Share #905 Posted November 12, 2012 Something tells me it's the Q26 being cut Negative guess again!!!! I will give you a hint you have to think completely outside the box to figure out what I got at . Abandon your way of thinking Hint: NO ROUTE WILL BE EXTENDED at all to accomplish this. But maximize what you have. Think very differently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotb16 Posted November 12, 2012 Share #906 Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) Negative guess again!!!! I will give you a hint you have to think completely outside the box to figure out what I got at . Abandon your way of thinking Hint: NO ROUTE WILL BE EXTENDED at all to accomplish this. But maximize what you have. Think very differently. My guess is maximizing little-used routes such as the Q26, Q31, Q76, among others to attract riders to them, taking away ridership from high-volume routes such as the Q27. Edited November 12, 2012 by cotb16 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted November 12, 2012 Share #907 Posted November 12, 2012 My guess is maximizing little-used routes such as the Q26, Q31, Q76, among others to attract riders to them, taking away ridership from high-volume routes such as the Q27. Negative again but you have a good take on Q31 but it has nothing to do with hurting Q27. Look at ALL routes. Remember any MTA bus has the farebox. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted November 13, 2012 Share #908 Posted November 13, 2012 Negative again but you have a good take on Q31 but it has nothing to do with hurting Q27. Look at ALL routes. Remember any MTA bus has the farebox. Can't you just tell us? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astoria Line Posted November 13, 2012 Share #909 Posted November 13, 2012 Negative again but you have a good take on Q31 but it has nothing to do with hurting Q27. Look at ALL routes. Remember any MTA bus has the farebox. None of us can read your damn mind, no point in wasting time trying to guess what you are thinking, just tell us already! Sheesh... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted November 13, 2012 Share #910 Posted November 13, 2012 None of us can read your damn mind, no point in wasting time trying to guess what you are thinking, just tell us already! Sheesh... AWW you killed it I was having too much fun . To boost QM ridership and speed up Q88. Q88 gets a LTD rush hour peak direction only. AM towards rego park PM towards queens village. Q88 LTD These stops all stops in rego park to 108th then next stop Main street Kissena blvd utopia parkway 188th@73rd frances lewis blvd 213th st Springfield blvd union tpk then hillside all stops on braddock. Reroute Q88 to cover that Q1 portion. More service added to Q36/43 allowing LTD fulltime. Q1 can get axed or reduced to rush but only if Q88 gets better reliability. All Q88s make ltd stops on springfield blvd use Q27 for local stops except rush hour. QM5 at off peak and reverse adds stops at rego park running over QM10 routing 63rd dr towards LIE service rd to manhattan. Then non stop to 164th making LTD stops to springfield blvd continues on original routing to glen oaks. Local passengers excepted at LTD stops in queens except rush hour PEAK Peak remains closed door due to High ridership. BUT if Q88 ridership at the mid stops continues to rise then Q88 LTD becomes full time and QM5 goes back to original route. But ridership would really have to show. Manhattanbound outside rush it's enforced by telling the driver your destination you dip card to disembark and embark if you choose manhattan. This won't apply to queens bound as driver will simply switch farebox after last manhattan pickup so local fare is enforced. However this only can be done on a few lines in BM and QM but not in SI (except lines with no alternative partially) or the bronx due extremely high manhattan bound ridership during off peak. QM20 will stop 34th for transfer to downtown service after becoming downtown service. If QM5 gains new ridership and manhattan bound riders more service added. If only local then Q88 gains more service to LTD. Does X68 need fulltime service? If so would extending QM4 help cover hillside? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q64Extention Posted November 13, 2012 Share #911 Posted November 13, 2012 AWW you killed it I was having too much fun . To boost QM ridership and speed up Q88. Q88 gets a LTD rush hour peak direction only. AM towards rego park PM towards queens village. Q88 LTD These stops all stops in rego park to 108th then next stop Main street Kissena blvd utopia parkway 188th@73rd frances lewis blvd 213th st Springfield blvd union tpk then hillside all stops on braddock. Reroute Q88 to cover that Q1 portion. More service added to Q36/43 allowing LTD fulltime. Q1 can get axed or reduced to rush but only if Q88 gets better reliability. All Q88s make ltd stops on springfield blvd use Q27 for local stops except rush hour. QM5 at off peak and reverse adds stops at rego park running over QM10 routing 63rd dr towards LIE service rd to manhattan. Then non stop to 164th making LTD stops to springfield blvd continues on original routing to glen oaks. Local passengers excepted at LTD stops in queens except rush hour PEAK Peak remains closed door due to High ridership. BUT if Q88 ridership at the mid stops continues to rise then Q88 LTD becomes full time and QM5 goes back to original route. But ridership would really have to show. Manhattanbound outside rush it's enforced by telling the driver your destination you dip card to disembark and embark if you choose manhattan. This won't apply to queens bound as driver will simply switch farebox after last manhattan pickup so local fare is enforced. However this only can be done on a few lines in BM and QM but not in SI (except lines with no alternative partially) or the bronx due extremely high manhattan bound ridership during off peak. QM20 will stop 34th for transfer to downtown service after becoming downtown service. If QM5 gains new ridership and manhattan bound riders more service added. If only local then Q88 gains more service to LTD. Does X68 need fulltime service? If so would extending QM4 help cover hillside? I'm confused, but I believe that the Q88 is fine as it is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted November 13, 2012 Share #912 Posted November 13, 2012 I'm confused, but I believe that the Q88 is fine as it is. LTD service is dearly needed in both direction peak hours only as a start 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted November 13, 2012 Share #913 Posted November 13, 2012 The Q1 cannot get axed. I don't know what you're smoking, but the service is necessary.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted November 13, 2012 Share #914 Posted November 13, 2012 The Q1 cannot get axed. I don't know what you're smoking, but the service is necessary.... What he saidThe Q1 actually does better than some routes. The reason that it's the Q43 Local during rush hours and because it duplicates other high ridership routes, it gets ridership.The Q1's QV LIRR branch can get discontinued 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted November 13, 2012 Share #915 Posted November 13, 2012 What he said The Q1 actually does better than some routes. The reason that it's the Q43 Local during rush hours and because it duplicates other high ridership routes, it gets ridership.The Q1's QV LIRR branch can get discontinued I agree with the QV branch, but axing it completely is out of the question. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted November 13, 2012 Share #916 Posted November 13, 2012 AWW you killed it I was having too much fun . To boost QM ridership and speed up Q88. Q88 gets a LTD rush hour peak direction only. AM towards rego park PM towards queens village. Q88 LTD These stops all stops in rego park to 108th then next stop Main street Kissena blvd utopia parkway 188th@73rd frances lewis blvd 213th st Springfield blvd union tpk then hillside all stops on braddock. Reroute Q88 to cover that Q1 portion. More service added to Q36/43 allowing LTD fulltime. Q1 can get axed or reduced to rush but only if Q88 gets better reliability. All Q88s make ltd stops on springfield blvd use Q27 for local stops except rush hour. QM5 at off peak and reverse adds stops at rego park running over QM10 routing 63rd dr towards LIE service rd to manhattan. Then non stop to 164th making LTD stops to springfield blvd continues on original routing to glen oaks. Local passengers excepted at LTD stops in queens except rush hour PEAK Peak remains closed door due to High ridership. BUT if Q88 ridership at the mid stops continues to rise then Q88 LTD becomes full time and QM5 goes back to original route. But ridership would really have to show. Manhattanbound outside rush it's enforced by telling the driver your destination you dip card to disembark and embark if you choose manhattan. This won't apply to queens bound as driver will simply switch farebox after last manhattan pickup so local fare is enforced. However this only can be done on a few lines in BM and QM but not in SI (except lines with no alternative partially) or the bronx due extremely high manhattan bound ridership during off peak. QM20 will stop 34th for transfer to downtown service after becoming downtown service. If QM5 gains new ridership and manhattan bound riders more service added. If only local then Q88 gains more service to LTD. Does X68 need fulltime service? If so would extending QM4 help cover hillside? Just add some stops on the QM5/QM6 Main Street/Union Tpke 77 Avenue/Queens Blvd 71 Avenue/ Queens Blvd Then express stops to Manhattan QM4, you can add bus stops as follows 67 Avenue 63 Road Hoffman Drive/ Woodhaven Blvd Also, I think there should be an express stop in Maspeth. Just make 2 or 3 buses stop there, and that can be a pick-up/drop off stop 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted November 14, 2012 Share #917 Posted November 14, 2012 What he said The Q1 actually does better than some routes. The reason that it's the Q43 Local during rush hours and because it duplicates other high ridership routes, it gets ridership.The Q1's QV LIRR branch can get discontinued I see it's local in Q43's place at rush hour if that is the case it remains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted November 14, 2012 Share #918 Posted November 14, 2012 Just add some stops on the QM5/QM6 Main Street/Union Tpke 77 Avenue/Queens Blvd 71 Avenue/ Queens Blvd Then express stops to Manhattan QM4, you can add bus stops as follows 67 Avenue 63 Road Hoffman Drive/ Woodhaven Blvd Also, I think there should be an express stop in Maspeth. Just make 2 or 3 buses stop there, and that can be a pick-up/drop off stop Err QM5/6 already stop at main street/union tpk. My proposal turns QM6 open-door in reverse peak and off peak hours as LTD yes stops will be added on queens blvd. QM5 however indirectly acts like a Q88 LTD when it isn't rush hour. QM4/1 helps hillside as super LTD outside rush and reverse peak. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted November 15, 2012 Share #919 Posted November 15, 2012 That is part of my plan the previous post feeds off of the idea of Q36 full time LTD thanks MTA. QM4/1 and 5/6 will get adjusted based on their ridership from the restructured boarding policy. QM20 will stop at greenpoint for transfers to B24 then head to downtown BM5 (off-peak only will stop there) Q67 LTD rush hr only goes via rego park and acts as a jewel ave LTD in peak direction since expresses must focus on manhattan bound folk runs via my Off-peak QM4/1 routing. Q50 enhanced service but merges with Q38(penelope). Q38 eliot retains Q38 designation and via forest ave replaces Q39 there. B13 merges with Q39 and via a faster routing absorbs parts of Q67. Q39 remaining part absorbs part of Q67 at maurice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted November 15, 2012 Share #920 Posted November 15, 2012 OK... merging the Q50 with ANYTHING is just plain asinine. That route has enough issues, we don't need any extensions. Take a look at this split. No crazy mergings, no insane extensions, just simply splitting the Q38 into two neat halves. MAP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted November 15, 2012 Share #921 Posted November 15, 2012 QM20 will stop at Greenpoint? After Bounad Hanhic & everyone involved put in the effort to try to actually get that route extended to Lower Manhattan (which is of FAR more importance & a necessity for NE Queens riders)? Lmao.... Yeah right... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted November 15, 2012 Author Share #922 Posted November 15, 2012 Combine the Q38 with the 50? Make the Q88 a limited? Axe the Q1 so the the Q36 and 43 can run full limiteds? I've said it before, I'll say it again. It's a damn good thing you don't work for operations planning. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted November 15, 2012 Share #923 Posted November 15, 2012 (edited) OK... merging the Q50 with ANYTHING is just plain asinine. That route has enough issues, we don't need any extensions. Take a look at this split. No crazy mergings, no insane extensions, just simply splitting the Q38 into two neat halves. MAP Since I'm sure the Eliot riders west of the cemetery prefer the [counterclockwise] access to Metropolitan, the way to make that work is to loop the other half to Eliot via Mt Olivet Crescent (the street bounding the cemetery), to Fresh Pond and back.They should really do this, bringing the Eliot half into Ridgewood (as a quicker alternative to the 58), but I'm sure it will never fly if you take the Met. service away from that side of Eliot. Edited November 15, 2012 by Eric B 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted November 15, 2012 Share #924 Posted November 15, 2012 Since I'm sure the Eliot riders west of the cemetery prefer the [counterclockwise] access to Metropolitan, the way to make that work is to loop the other half to Eliot via Mt Olivet Crescent (the street bounding the cemetery), to Fresh Pond and back. They should really do this, bringing the Eliot half into Ridgewood (as a quicker alternative to the 58), but I'm sure it will never fly if you take the Met. service away from that side of Eliot. I'm not taking Met service from ANY side of Eliot... they go to Ridgewood and they have a choice between the and the . If they really want Metropolitan then they can transfer to the Q54... I don't see why they'd be upset with this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted November 15, 2012 Share #925 Posted November 15, 2012 I would just aplit the 38 with the 88 having a northern halve, and yes it can use a limited. I do take both routes and I do see quite some transfer to the Q88 from the Q38 and vice versa at QCM The Southern halve would be a Q67 with enhanced headways east of Fresh Pond Road/Metropolitan Avenue 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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