Threxx Posted August 18, 2012 Share #826 Posted August 18, 2012 Broadway Junction to Forest Hills.... wtf? https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=213458373195564989412.0004c73badbed69b2babb&msa=0 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astoria Line Posted August 18, 2012 Share #827 Posted August 18, 2012 https://maps.google....d69b2babb&msa=0 I don't think it would work..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted August 18, 2012 Share #828 Posted August 18, 2012 I don't think it would work..... details? lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4 Via Merrick Rd Posted August 18, 2012 Share #829 Posted August 18, 2012 Broadway Junction to Forest Hills.... wtf? I kinda have to agree No I do have to agree with Danny Bway JCT-Forest-Hills wouldn't work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted August 18, 2012 Share #830 Posted August 18, 2012 I kinda have to agree No I do have to agree with Danny Bway JCT-Forest-Hills wouldn't work. The point is to provide a connection b/w two areas where it is impossible to travel b/w. This route is necessary. Cooper Avenue needs the service, and Central Queens residents need better connections to the Queens Blvd line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astoria Line Posted August 18, 2012 Share #831 Posted August 18, 2012 Well actually, you don't always have to make a route to connect two areas unless service is DEMANDED or feasible... Network coverage isn't always necessary.... The awkward moment when I've been to Ridgewood and can tell you that Cooper doesn't need the service.. Most people in the ridgewood/glendale area use the Q54 and Q55, both of which provide very good connections... Central Queens residents can always take one of these buses lol... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted August 18, 2012 Share #832 Posted August 18, 2012 Well actually, you don't always have to make a route to connect two areas unless service is DEMANDED or feasible... Network coverage isn't always necessary.... The awkward moment when I've been to Ridgewood and can tell you that Cooper doesn't need the service.. Most people in the ridgewood/glendale area use the Q54 and Q55, both of which provide very good connections... Central Queens residents can always take one of these buses lol... The Q54 and Q55? The Q55 has no connections, and the Q54 is long and slow. Cooper Avenue is busy as well, and there are a number of residents who would benifit from and use this route... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astoria Line Posted August 18, 2012 Share #833 Posted August 18, 2012 (edited) The Q54 and Q55? The Q55 has no connections, and the Q54 is long and slow. Cooper Avenue is busy as well, and there are a number of residents who would benifit from and use this route... Q55 connects to Woodhaven Routes, the and a few other buses.... How many times have you been to Cooper Ave Threxx? Seems that you have been all around the world with all these horrid ideas you make Edited August 18, 2012 by Astoria Line 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted August 18, 2012 Share #834 Posted August 18, 2012 The Q55 connects to the J at the East end and the L and M in ridgewood. The Q54 has subways at both ends including a qbl train. If people really want qb, they can transfer to a number of buses along both routes which can reach various points along queens Blvd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted August 18, 2012 Share #835 Posted August 18, 2012 Q55 connects to Woodhaven Routes, the and a few other buses.... How many times have you been to Cooper Ave Threxx? Seems that you have been all around the world with all these horrid ideas you make The Q55 connects to the J at the East end and the L and M in ridgewood. The Q54 has subways at both ends including a qbl train. If people really want qb, they can transfer to a number of buses along both routes which can reach various points along queens Blvd. You're being really open-minded @Danny... Have you been on the Woodhaven routes? Queens Blvd is not at capacity on the local, and the Q55 is also slow. Why would anyone backtrack to 111th Street to take the back to Manhattan? None of that makes sense.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted August 18, 2012 Share #836 Posted August 18, 2012 (edited) You go the other way to myrtle Wyckoff for the L or M. I've been on woodhaven routes. Frequently. It's not really that bad (compared to my 20 daily commute between rockaway and mahattan or the Bronx and even Jackson hts). Edited August 18, 2012 by Far Rock Depot 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted August 18, 2012 Share #837 Posted August 18, 2012 You go the other way to myrtle Wyckoff for the L or M The and ? Sure, use the if you want to be late, or use the if you want to be packed like sardines after Bedford... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astoria Line Posted August 18, 2012 Share #838 Posted August 18, 2012 You're being really open-minded @Danny... Have you been on the Woodhaven routes? Queens Blvd is not at capacity on the local, and the Q55 is also slow. Why would anyone backtrack to 111th Street to take the back to Manhattan? None of that makes sense.... Actually............... I read and analyze your ideas when you put them...... It's just that you make ideas for a route for everywhere in the world when in fact you probably have never been there.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astoria Line Posted August 18, 2012 Share #839 Posted August 18, 2012 The and ? Sure, use the if you want to be late, or use the if you want to be packed like sardines after Bedford... The isn't even that bad... Sometimes trains bunch up. So one train will be packed then the next one 2 minutes later is empty.... Happens a lot actually when I think about it.... I took the everyday for 3 years I would know this... I have experience to back up what I say.. And if you take the everyday, you get used to it, I did..... and it isn't as bad as you make it out to be, Lexington Ave routes and the and are WAY worse... The is really bad during PM rush not AM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted August 18, 2012 Share #840 Posted August 18, 2012 (edited) Dude, I've lived in bushwick. Commuted thru ridgewood woodhaven and everything inbetween. It's fine as is. I've used it. And if you havens noticed, most lines during rush hour are like sardines. If you post a comment like that, me thinks you've never ridden the Lex. This is New York. Where getting from point A to point B is more important than a seat. When you realize this, your route planning will improve. Edited August 18, 2012 by Far Rock Depot 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted August 18, 2012 Share #841 Posted August 18, 2012 Actually............... I read and analyze your ideas when you put them...... It's just that you make ideas for a route for everywhere in the world when in fact you probably have never been there.... Everywhere in the world? You act like I've proposed a line in London or Japan.... and normally, when I am approached by someone more knowledgeable, I surrender, but this is an obvious gap in service here. There is a need for this route. Dude, I've lived in bushwick. Commuted thru ridgewood woodhaven and everything inbetween. It's fine as is. I've used it. And if you havens noticed, most lines during rush hour are like sardines. If you post a comment like that, me thinks you've never ridden the Lex. This is New York. Where getting from point A to point B is more important than a seat. When you realize this, your route planning will improve. I realize this, but you also must realize that you must also cater to convenience when possible.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astoria Line Posted August 18, 2012 Share #842 Posted August 18, 2012 Everywhere in the world? You act like I've proposed a line in London or Japan.... and normally, when I am approached by someone more knowledgeable, I surrender, but this is an obvious gap in service here. There is a need for this route. Just because there is a gap in service doesn't mean it needs a route lol... Actually the gap isn't very good cuz you have myrtle not too far away so that just makes your argument invalid... But you never answered my question... have you actually been in cooper ave or glendale before? (other than boring atlas park) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted August 18, 2012 Share #843 Posted August 18, 2012 The idea of route planning is not to cater to convenience. First you must cater to demand. Example: demand-service to Queens Blvd from the rockaways thus, the Q52. Convenience- extending the q52 to Mott Ave. And the demand was fulfilled by using an already existing route. If there's a demand for your service, logically existing routes will be adjusted first. But there is no demand. It's an idea that seems good(to you) on paper. As commuters, it's not needed. People adjust their commute to schedules and routes. One does not need to backtrack to 111th still. But simply leave with enough time to take the bus to the L, one of the best lines out there hence is large ridership, or the MTA, which finally eliminated the need for a transfer at essex. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted August 18, 2012 Share #844 Posted August 18, 2012 The idea of route planning is not to cater to convenience. First you must cater to demand. Example: demand-service to Queens Blvd from the rockaways thus, the Q52. Convenience- extending the q52 to Mott Ave. And the demand was fulfilled by using an already existing route. If there's a demand for your service, logically existing routes will be adjusted first. But there is no demand. It's an idea that seems good(to you) on paper. As commuters, it's not needed. People adjust their commute to schedules and routes. One does not need to backtrack to 111th still. But simply leave with enough time to take the bus to the L, one of the best lines out there hence is large ridership, or the MTA, which finally eliminated the need for a transfer at essex. This is actually true, but that dosen't mean I don't think the route isn't necessary. But I can see why Glendale commuters wouldn't use it.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted August 18, 2012 Share #845 Posted August 18, 2012 You may have your few dedicated riders, but not enough to fill the farebox enough to justify the route. And those who really need speed, have the express bus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted August 19, 2012 Share #846 Posted August 19, 2012 You may have your few dedicated riders, but not enough to fill the farebox enough to justify the route. And those who really need speed, have the express bus. express bus works if ur going to manhattan what about ppl not going to manhattan looking for Q44&64 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q64Extention Posted August 19, 2012 Share #847 Posted August 19, 2012 I have decided to unfollow this topic because you guise keep bickering. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted August 19, 2012 Share #848 Posted August 19, 2012 I have decided to unfollow this topic because you guise keep bickering. This isn't bickering, lol You want bickering, look up old posts from two certain members.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted August 19, 2012 Share #849 Posted August 19, 2012 This isn't bickering, lol You want bickering, look up old posts from two certain members.... Chill..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted August 19, 2012 Share #850 Posted August 19, 2012 The Q55 connects to the J at the East end and the L and M in ridgewood. The Q54 has subways at both ends including a qbl train. If people really want qb, they can transfer to a number of buses along both routes which can reach various points along queens Blvd. That's the problem in Ridgewood. Having to transfer to get everywhere. If the 55 went further, at least to Jamaica-Van Wyck, then it would be a little easier (When they suggested eliminating the 56, they should have added extending the 55 in its place, and they would have had a better chance at pulling that off). But yes, Bwy-Jct. to Forest Hills is not needed. (You have the to the . Ridgewood to Forest Hills is what would be much more needed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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