mac5689 Posted February 21, 2016 Share #5101 Posted February 21, 2016 The route(s) you're mentioning from Sayville were run originally by Utility Lines. There was a Sayville-Ronkonkoma & a Patchogue-Centereach-Ronkonkoma(which was taken over, I believe by Holbrook Transp) which is pretty much today's S63 route bet. Patchogue & Smithaven. Utility Lines also had a route from E. Islip to Central Islip (part of today's 3C route). I was aware of all that (Hopefully that doesn't sound as rude as it sounds in my head), though I wasn't sure if the Patchouge-Centereach-Ronkonkoma route had been like that S63 or 7A. Any idea if the St.James-Lake Ronkonkoma Route was a separate route? Also unless it was was a summer time spur or like every other bus, the 1969 map had the Sayville route going right to the Lake. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted February 21, 2016 Share #5102 Posted February 21, 2016 I was riding on bus # 1889 and noticed for the first time red light emitting from the teo lower dots on the APC counters by the doors. Have they been off all this time? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q113 LTD Posted February 21, 2016 Share #5103 Posted February 21, 2016 Says who? Proof? I know everyone hates wikipedia(because anyone can edit) but according to the site, 1008, 1015 and 1019 are retired. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nassau_Inter-County_Express 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Orion Bus Posted February 21, 2016 Share #5104 Posted February 21, 2016 I know everyone hates wikipedia(because anyone can edit) but according to the site, 1008, 1015 and 1019 are retired. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nassau_Inter-County_Express Most of the people who edit that page are either members on here or members who have been banned from here (ie. A lot of the information that gets on there is sourced from members here). I don't edit Wikipedia myself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted February 21, 2016 Share #5105 Posted February 21, 2016 I know everyone hates wikipedia(because anyone can edit) but according to the site, 1008, 1015 and 1019 are retired. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nassau_Inter-County_Express cool sig 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS4Ever Posted February 21, 2016 Share #5106 Posted February 21, 2016 So sad the foothill buses are being retired at such a young age The s58 and s62 are considered brother buses between SHMall and Riverhead i mean a fellow passenger can either take the s58 or the s62 to Riverhead and areas east of fresh pond road (where the s62 separates from the s58 and heads north to port jeff.)...i can see why the s62 is kept at Hauppauge also the s62 terminates at outer areas of the office buildings at commerce drive and Adams road which is quite close to oser ave/marcus Blvd (the weekend terminal of the s33) and quite close to the detour the s27 makes on weekends. ..i say if the s62 terminates in this area it should have a Saturday service from this terminal and omit the north complex Dennison building and NYS department building. ..go straight up nys 347 to SH mall..then again for this to happen it would need a major boost on the passenger count on the outer areas But i would leave the s62 as it is also it is the plan B route to take to SH Mall after the s58 suffers a major stunning two hour gap right after the morning peak runs. ..years passes by and SCT don't fix that filling of that gap on the s58 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac5689 Posted February 21, 2016 Share #5107 Posted February 21, 2016 But i would leave the s62 as it is also it is the plan B route to take to SH Mall after the s58 suffers a major stunning two hour gap right after the morning peak runs. ..years passes by and SCT don't fix that filling of that gap on the s58 Under CBS Lines that use to be the start of the Drivers Lunch Breaks, whether that had something to do with why nothing was changed especially when who owned the routes were questioned I have no clue. Suffolk either didn't or doesn't feel like a change is needed or believes that a change wouldn't be cost effective. The s58 and s62 are considered brother buses between SHMall and Riverhead I still remember when the S58 extension to Riverhead was announced and it was rumored that the S58 was suppose to head up from Coram to Port Jefferson Sta and follow the S62. I was around 10 at the time and saw problems with that, like the cutting off of the Middle Island Stop as well as such a move would require the S58 to either follow the S60 or S61 up from Coram which really didn't make sense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted February 22, 2016 Share #5108 Posted February 22, 2016 The past 3 pages are the SCT Random Thoughts Thread... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hound Posted February 22, 2016 Share #5109 Posted February 22, 2016 I was aware of all that (Hopefully that doesn't sound as rude as it sounds in my head), though I wasn't sure if the Patchouge-Centereach-Ronkonkoma route had been like that S63 or 7A. Any idea if the St.James-Lake Ronkonkoma Route was a separate route? Also unless it was was a summer time spur or like every other bus, the 1969 map had the Sayville route going right to the Lake. Have no knowledge of a route bet. Sayville & St. James. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Orion Bus Posted February 22, 2016 Share #5110 Posted February 22, 2016 The past 3 pages are the SCT Random Thoughts Thread... Oh good, I'm not the only one who noticed. Between this and Jose's uploads of old bus schedules being passed between sections, it seems there's a little bit of an unorganizational schema around here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted February 22, 2016 Share #5111 Posted February 22, 2016 Oh good, I'm not the only one who noticed. Between this and Jose's uploads of old bus schedules being passed between sections, it seems there's a little bit of an unorganizational schema around here. Lol, how do you know my name? I don't believe I've mentioned it to you before. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Orion Bus Posted February 22, 2016 Share #5112 Posted February 22, 2016 Lol, how do you know my name? I don't believe I've mentioned it to you before. I've read through a lot of old threads here and happened to see it in a mention of some old Suffolk Transit website somewhere that took it from your Photobucket. Can we move everything to the Random Thoughts Thread of Suffolk Transit now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted February 22, 2016 Share #5113 Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) How's the n20G/H and n21 doing? Is the whole thing working? Edited February 22, 2016 by NY1635 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted February 22, 2016 Share #5114 Posted February 22, 2016 How's the n20G/H and n21 doing? Is the whole thing working? Not really working. On my way to Casino Public Hearing, I got 10:00am n20G Great Neck #1910 and our connection was for 11:00 n20H Hicksville, but our bus got to Middle Neck Rd/Northern Blvd at 10:32, so we had to play Frogger across busy and dangerous Northern Blvd intersection to get on 10:30 n20H Hicksville #1877. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted February 22, 2016 Share #5115 Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) I was on the n20G/H last week. Our bus was held up for 10 minutes (weekday) at Great Neck LIRR (on the n20G heading to Flushing) because the driver and a woman were fighting over the transfer, with the women claiming he had an attitude, and the calling the driver a racist pig, and then they exchanged words. The dispatcher was called over, and the driver was taken off the bus, for like 3 minutes. He left 2 minutes afterward, with two busloads of people. He was very pissed, skipping stops after Middle Neck Road, going fast, honking his horn a lot, almost closing the doors on the people at the front. Lol, that was one hell of a trip. During off peak hours on weekdays, if on the n20H, transfer at Middle Neck Road, because if you can catch the bus there, that bus is usually not very full, because there isn't an n20H/n21 trip connecting to it. Edited February 22, 2016 by BM5 via Woodhaven 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted February 22, 2016 Share #5116 Posted February 22, 2016 Not really working. On my way to Casino Public Hearing, I got 10:00am n20G Great Neck #1910 and our connection was for 11:00 n20H Hicksville, but our bus got to Middle Neck Rd/Northern Blvd at 10:32, so we had to play Frogger across busy and dangerous Northern Blvd intersection to get on 10:30 n20H Hicksville #1877. So how is this any different from the other transfers that people have to make that involve crossing a busy intersection? Aside from that, true to their word, you guys did save time by not having to go through the loop at Great Neck. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted February 22, 2016 Share #5117 Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) So how is this any different from the other transfers that people have to make that involve crossing a busy intersection? Aside from that, true to their word, you guys did save time by not having to go through the loop at Great Neck. Lots of n20 riders want their direct bus service back. Yesterday, I was coming from event in Sayville and I was on 3:45pm S40 Babylon when I met elderly couples from Nassau County and they used to take n19, n73/74, n80/81 and their friend take n50 bus. They told me it takes them 3-hour just to get from Massapequa to Hicksville. Also when I was at Mineola since I was early for meeting around 12pm, I met lady who used take Able-Ride and she doesn't ride Able-Ride and she told me Able-Ride drivers drive recklessly and she told me many Able-Ride B/O are speeding which is ADA violation. She had bumby ride all the way because Able-Ride drivers are turning first, speeding, etc. Edited February 22, 2016 by FamousNYLover 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted February 22, 2016 Share #5118 Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) Do you guys think transfers should be timed at Middle Neck Road/Northern Blvd instead of at Great Neck LIRR? It would save riders more time, and there's a lot getting off at Great Neck. It could also even out loads on some n20G buses better. Edited February 22, 2016 by BM5 via Woodhaven 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted February 22, 2016 Share #5119 Posted February 22, 2016 Do you guys think transfers should be timed at Middle Neck Road/Northern Blvd instead of at Great Neck LIRR? It would save riders more time, and there's a lot getting off at Great Neck. It could also even out loads on some n20G buses better. All n20 Flushing riders who used to board east of Middle Neck Rd is now waiting on west side of Middle Neck Rd. That's what I put on service change notice I made that transfer either at Middle Neck Rd/Northern Blvd or Great Neck Station for n20G+n20H, n20G+n21, etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted February 23, 2016 Share #5120 Posted February 23, 2016 All n20 Flushing riders who used to board east of Middle Neck Rd is now waiting on west side of Middle Neck Rd. That's what I put on service change notice I made that transfer either at Middle Neck Rd/Northern Blvd or Great Neck Station for n20G+n20H, n20G+n21, etc. I'm talking about making Middle Neck Road the sole transfer point (rather than Great Neck LIRR). It would be more convenient to time the buses there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted February 23, 2016 Share #5121 Posted February 23, 2016 I'm talking about making Middle Neck Road the sole transfer point (rather than Great Neck LIRR). It would be more convenient to time the buses there. That should be transfer point too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted February 23, 2016 Share #5122 Posted February 23, 2016 Am I glad I never have to go that far up north on the island via bus again... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Orion Bus Posted February 23, 2016 Share #5123 Posted February 23, 2016 1) I don't think FamousNYLover's video proved anything about either argument of the n20G/H change. It was probably the shakiest video I've ever seen as well. 2) I stand by the n20G/H still not being a good idea. Yes, you can save time if the connections match up transferring at Northern Blvd & Middle Neck Rd as opposed as going all the way to the train station. That's if the buses happen to be entering the intersection at the same or close to the same time and you can cross the street. You could have done that with the old NICE n20 as well since nothing ever ran on time during prime hours anyway. Otherwise, take into consideration the percentage of breakdowns, the time lost by consistent traffic lights, and the overall history of NICE, and this is still doomed to fail. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted February 23, 2016 Share #5124 Posted February 23, 2016 (edited) Lots of n20 riders want their direct bus service back. Yesterday, I was coming from event in Sayville and I was on 3:45pm S40 Babylon when I met elderly couples from Nassau County and they used to take n19, n73/74, n80/81 and their friend take n50 bus. They told me it takes them 3-hour just to get from Massapequa to Hicksville. Also when I was at Mineola since I was early for meeting around 12pm, I met lady who used take Able-Ride and she doesn't ride Able-Ride and she told me Able-Ride drivers drive recklessly and she told me many Able-Ride B/O are speeding which is ADA violation. She had bumby ride all the way because Able-Ride drivers are turning first, speeding, etc. And lots of n20 riders are benefitting from the more reliable service, but aren't being as vocal. The n20 is a fairly busy route, so "lots of people" are going to have lots of different opinions. I'm talking about making Middle Neck Road the sole transfer point (rather than Great Neck LIRR). It would be more convenient to time the buses there. You mean cut the buses back from LIRR Great Neck? Wouldn't work, since you lose the connection to the LIRR itself, as well as to the n57/58 (and the shopping/residential district around the station). And where would you turn them around if not the LIRR station? Edited February 23, 2016 by checkmatechamp13 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Orion Bus Posted February 23, 2016 Share #5125 Posted February 23, 2016 You mean cut the buses back from LIRR Great Neck? Wouldn't work, since you lose the connection to the LIRR itself, as well as to the n57/58 (and the shopping/residential district around the station). And where would you turn them around if not the LIRR station? It's NICE. Let them walk. Where to turn around? Have the buses turn around in that diner's parking lot or one of the 3 gas stations. Given the professionalism of NICE drivers, I'm sure they could all manuever the turn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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