TheSubwayStation Posted July 6, 2012 Share #1226 Posted July 6, 2012 NEXT: all BMT lines in Brooklyn are unusable south of Atlantic Av. Atlantic Av station can be used. RULES: no trains can exit service to go to yards located in unusable areas, which means that some routes cannot be suspended/have their TPH reduced. The yards can still be used for storage; trains just can't access them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted July 6, 2012 Share #1227 Posted July 6, 2012 : Service suspended. : Trains run in 2 sections. 1. Between Norwood-205th St & 2nd Av Station via 8th Av Local 2. Between Whitehall St and Coney Island. : Trains rerouted on between Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Av and World Trade Center (via 8th Av Local) Trains remains express in Queens. : Single shuttle operation on Northbound local track only between 23rd St & Grand St and 42nd St-Bryant Park and 7th Av-53rd St. PATH trains service rerouted to Hoboken or World Trade Center. There will be single shuttle train operation on PATH Train between 33rd St & Journal Sq on northbound track. Free Shuttle Buses will operate on 6th Av in northbound direction and southbound on 7th Av between West 23rd St & 42nd St. The , , and also have to be rerouted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted July 6, 2012 Share #1228 Posted July 6, 2012 (edited) NEXT: all BMT lines in Brooklyn are unusable south of Atlantic Av. Atlantic Av station can be used. RULES: no trains can exit service to go to yards located in unusable areas, which means that some routes cannot be suspended/have their TPH reduced. The yards can still be used for storage; trains just can't access them. : Whitehall Street-Astoria, via Local : Pacific Street-57th Street, via Express & Tunnel. : Suspended. : Suspended. : 2nd Avenue-205th Street via Local Assuming this includes the Culver EL & Franklin Shuttle: : Terminates at Church Avenue. : Terminates at Botanic Garden, single tracking. Edited July 6, 2012 by ThrexxBus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted July 6, 2012 Share #1229 Posted July 6, 2012 : Whitehall Street-Astoria, via Local : Pacific Street-57th Street, via Express & Tunnel. : Suspended. : Suspended. : 2nd Avenue-205th Street via Local Assuming this includes the Culver EL & Franklin Shuttle: : Terminates at Church Avenue. : Terminates at Botanic Garden, single tracking. Where are you going to put the trains that aren't in service? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted July 6, 2012 Share #1230 Posted July 6, 2012 Where are you going to put the trains that aren't in service? Concourse & Jerome Yards. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Express Posted July 6, 2012 Share #1231 Posted July 6, 2012 The , , and also have to be rerouted. I don't mean to continue the argument, and I know I am the one who always says no hatin on the scenarios, but how on Earth can 1 crackhead wipe out the and the damn PATH? I don't need a reply to this. NEXT: all BMT lines in Brooklyn are unusable south of Atlantic Av. Atlantic Av station can be used. RULES: no trains can exit service to go to yards located in unusable areas, which means that some routes cannot be suspended/have their TPH reduced. The yards can still be used for storage; trains just can't access them. 205 St to Pacific St (Grand CC/CPW/6 Av/4 Av Express) 36 St to Coney Island (West End Local) 59 St to Coney Island (Sea Beach Local) Prospect Park to Coney Island (Brighton Local) 71 Av to Lawrence St (Queens Blvd/Broadway Local) Pacific St to 95 St (4 Av Local) Astoria Ditmars to 34 St (Broadway Express/Astoria Local) NOTE Skips DeKalb Av. Shuttle Buses replace Sea Beach Service. 4 Av Single tracked Shuttles. Trains leave every 10 mins from terminals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted July 6, 2012 Share #1232 Posted July 6, 2012 205 St to Pacific St (Grand CC/CPW/6 Av/4 Av Express) 36 St to Coney Island (West End Local) 59 St to Coney Island (Sea Beach Local) Prospect Park to Coney Island (Brighton Local) 71 Av to Lawrence St (Queens Blvd/Broadway Local) Pacific St to 95 St (4 Av Local) Astoria Ditmars to 34 St (Broadway Express/Astoria Local) NOTE Skips DeKalb Av. Shuttle Buses replace Sea Beach Service. 4 Av Single tracked Shuttles. Trains leave every 10 mins from terminals. I think you misunderstood my post; ALL BMT lines south of Atlantic can't be used: NEXT: all BMT lines in Brooklyn are unusable south of Atlantic Av. Atlantic Av station can be used. RULES: no trains can exit service to go to yards located in unusable areas, which means that some routes cannot be suspended/have their TPH reduced. The yards can still be used for storage; trains just can't access them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainFanInfinity Posted July 6, 2012 Share #1233 Posted July 6, 2012 (edited) NEXT: all BMT lines in Brooklyn are unusable south of Atlantic Av. Atlantic Av station can be used. RULES: no trains can exit service to go to yards located in unusable areas, which means that some routes cannot be suspended/have their TPH reduced. The yards can still be used for storage; trains just can't access them. Terminates at Lower East Side-2 Avenue via the . via Prospect Park Express, to Church Avenue. Runs local east of 71 Ave. To Church Avenue. Terminates at Hoyt-Schermerhorn Streets. Terminates at Whitehall Street, or *Times Square-42 Street via the . Some trains run via the to Forest Hills-71 Ave. (* via Broadway Express) Terminates at Atlantic Avenue-Barclays Center, or *Canal Street (* via the ) Some trains run via Queens Bl Express to Forest Hills-71 Ave. Terminates at Jay Street-Metrotech. Suspended. Short list: Queens Bl Exp: Queens Bl Lcl: Prospect Park Exp: Prospect Park Lcl: NOTE: [F] Uses the Jamaica Yard. [N] [Q] Uses the Queens Bl express tracks (east of 71 Av) to layup. [Q] Uses the City Hall layup tracks. That was hard, but I'm sure there's more mistakes in there! Correct me if I'm wrong! Edited July 7, 2012 by TrainFanInfinity 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted July 6, 2012 Share #1234 Posted July 6, 2012 Add to my post: : Trains run in 2 sections. 1. Between Astoria & Queensboro Plaza. 2. Between Atlantic Av-Pacific St & Coney Island via local only. After Coney Island, trains head on line to Kings Highway. : No service. Free shuttle bus between Atlantic Av & Prospect Park. : Runs on between Queens Plaza & Canal St. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted July 6, 2012 Share #1235 Posted July 6, 2012 I don't mean to continue the argument, and I know I am the one who always says no hatin on the scenarios, but how on Earth can 1 crackhead wipe out the and the damn PATH? I don't need a reply to this. That's what happened, IIRC... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted July 6, 2012 Share #1236 Posted July 6, 2012 via the to Kings Highway. via Prospect Park Express, Culver Local (w' peak-direction express), to Coney Island-Stillwell Ave. Runs local east of 71 Ave. To Church Avenue. Some trains are extended to Kings Highway. Terminates at Whitehall Street, or *Times Square-42 Street via the . Some trains run via the to Forest Hills-71 Ave. (* via Broadway Express) Terminates at Atlantic Avenue-Barclays Center, or *Canal Street (* via the ) Some trains run via Queens Bl Express to Forest Hills-71 Ave. Terminates at Jay Street-Metrotech. Suspended. Short list: Queens Bl Exp: Queens Bl Lcl: Prospect Park Exp: Prospect Park Lcl: NOTE: [F] Uses the Jamaica Yard. [N] [Q] Uses the Queens Bl express tracks (east of 71 Av) to layup. [Q] Uses the City Hall layup tracks. That was hard, but I'm sure there's more mistakes in there! Correct me if I'm wrong! The one problem is that the Culver Line from Ditmas Av to Coney Island is a BMT line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainFanInfinity Posted July 7, 2012 Share #1237 Posted July 7, 2012 The one problem is that the Culver Line from Ditmas Av to Coney Island is a BMT line. Okay, I fixed it! Thanks for reminding me! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted July 7, 2012 Share #1238 Posted July 7, 2012 (edited) NEW SCENARIO: 34th Street collapses b/w Herald Square & 9th Avenue in 2015. Reroute the , , , , , , , , , , , , , , NJT, and LIRR... I know, streets do not simply collapse... think of your own reason, and good luck! You'll need it. More irrational scenarios are allowed, as this is a dire situations. Do NOT reroute all LIRR trains to Jamaica, as through trains are still running to LIC & Atlantic Terminal. Edited July 7, 2012 by ThrexxBus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted July 7, 2012 Share #1239 Posted July 7, 2012 LOOK AT THE TRACK MAP: Link The ONLY way to loop through Coney Island is by having it single track for a considerable amount, and COMPLETELY screw over the and trains. Coney Island was built as a terminal; not as a loopty loop for you to have fun with. Under normal circumstances, yes, but ALL of this is with the premise that in an emergency, you do what you can to keep service as normal as possible, even if it means in this case for example having the go through Coney Island via the and then alternating between the and to minimize disruptions on that end. It's all about maximizing service in a situation like that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted July 7, 2012 Share #1240 Posted July 7, 2012 (edited) LOOK AT THE TRACK MAP: Link The ONLY way to loop through Coney Island is by having it single track for a considerable amount, and COMPLETELY screw over the and trains. Coney Island was built as a terminal; not as a loopty loop for you to have fun with. If trains from the to the go via Track 1 (the east-most track) and trains from the to the go via Track 4 (the west track) this would work, with the only consequence that and trains only have one track to terminate (I wouldn't call that 'completely screw over'. In fact, that's how it worked when the was through-routed via Coney Island for a few weekends in 2006. EDIT: Here's a diagram: Edited July 7, 2012 by NX Express 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgor Posted July 7, 2012 Share #1241 Posted July 7, 2012 If trains from the to the go via Track 1 (the east-most track) and trains from the to the go via Track 4 (the west track) this would work, with the only consequence that and trains only have one track to terminate (I wouldn't call that 'completely screw over'. In fact, that's how it worked when the was through-routed via Coney Island for a few weekends in 2006. Yes, that's the only possible loop through Coney Island, but it would be much better (and much smarter) to just terminate all trains at Coney Island and force people to switch. But the solution that calls for running trains up either the or then it would completely mess up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted July 7, 2012 Share #1242 Posted July 7, 2012 (edited) NEW SCENARIO: 34th Street collapses b/w Herald Square & 9th Avenue in 2015. Reroute the , , , , , , , , , , , , , , NJT, and LIRR... I know, streets do not simply collapse... think of your own reason, and good luck! You'll need it. More irrational scenarios are allowed, as this is a dire situations. Do NOT reroute all LIRR trains to Jamaica, as through trains are still running to LIC & Atlantic Terminal. : No trains between 96th St & South Ferry. : Trains rerouted on between 149th St-Grand Concourse and Atlantic Av at all times. : Trains run in 2 section. 1. Between Harlem-148th St & Times Sq. 2. Between Chambers St & New Lots Av. : No trains between Javits Center & TImes Sq. Buses: M5/M7: Northbound: Turn right at 28th St, turn left at Madison Av, turn left at 39th St, turn right at 6th Av, regular route. M4/Q32 Southbound: Stays on 5th Av, then turn left at 32nd St, terminate. M7/M20/M104 Southbound: Turn left at 40th St, turn right at 5th Av, turn right at 23rd St, turn left at 7th Av, regular route. M11 Southbound: Turn left at 42nd St, turn right at 5th Av, turn right at 31st St, turn left at 9th Av, regular route. M11 Northbound: Turn right at 30th St, turn left at Madison Av, turn left at 42nd St, turn right at 10th Av, regular route. M34+Select Bus Service+ Eastbound: Turn left at 10th Av, turn right at 42nd St, turn right at 5th Av, turn left at 34th St, regular route. Westbound: Turn left at 5th Av, turn right at 31st St, turn right at 10th Av, turn left at 34th St, regular route. M34A+Select Bus Service+ Eastbound: Turn left at 42nd St, turn right at 5th Av, turn left at 34th St, regular route. Westbound: Turn left at 5th Av, turn right at 31st St, turn right at 10th Av, regular route. All Queens Express buses rerouted over to Madison Av between 34th & 42nd Sts. All Staten Island Expresss buses will use Madison Av from 23rd & 42nd Sts. BxM2: Southbound: Turn left at 42nd St, turn right at 5th Av, turn left at 28th St, turn left at Madison Av, take stand at Madison Av/32nd St. Northbound: From stand, take first stop at Madison Av/34th St, turn left at 42nd St, turn right at 6th Av, regular route. LIRR: No Connection are made doing this time. All Port Washington trains terminate at Long Island City. Reduce to every hour off-peak during this time. Long Beach, Far Rockaway and Hempstead train terminate at Atlantic Terminal. Port Jefferson train terminates at Woodside. All Oyster Bay, Montauk and Babylon trains terminate at Jamaica. New Jersey Transit: Amtrak: All trains via Hudson River tracks will be rerouted to Grand Central with Metro-North assistant. NYC Airporter: NY Penn Station drop off and pickup will be made on 31st St/8th Av only. PATH Train: 33rd St-Journal Sq train suspended. Extra service on Newark-World Trade Center which will run via Hoboken. New York Waterway 34th St Peak Bus: Via 12th Av, turn left at 34th St, turn right at 9th Av, turn left at 28th St, turn left at Madison Av, turn right at 34th St, turn right at Lex Av, turn left at 32nd St, turn left at 3rd Av, turn left at 34th St, turn left at 5th Av, turn right at 31st St, turn right at 10th Av, turn left at 34th St, regular route. 34th-42nd St Peak: Via 12th Av, turn right at 42nd St, turn right at 5th Av, turn right at 31st St, turn right at 10th Av, turn left at 34th St, regular rotue. East River Ferry Shuttle: Via 34th St, turn right at Madison Av, turn left at 39th Av, turn right at 6th Av, regular route. Free shuttle buses operate via Free shuttle buses operate as loop bus running between 34th St Stations and 42nd St. COACH USA, ACADEMY BUS, NYC Airporter will also provide free shuttle bus service. Shuttle Bus: Via Javits Center Roadway, make U-turn onto 34th St, turn right at Dyre Av, turn left at 30th St, turn left at 6th Av, turn right at 32nd St, turn left at Madison Av, turn left at 42nd St, turn left at 11th Av, turn right into Javits Center Roadway. Bus Stops @ Javits Center 6th Av/31st St @ M5/M7 stop Madison Av/32nd St @ M4/Q32 stop. 42nd St/Madison Av @ M42 Stop 42nd St/6th Av @ M42 stop. 42nd St/7th Av @ M42 stop 42nd St/8th Av @M42 stop. Javits Center Free shuttle bus between South Ferry & 34th St-Penn Station and between Times Sq-42nd St & 96th St. Shuttle Buses replacing PATH will makeall PATH Station stops between 33rd St-6th Av Station and Christopher St Station. During this time all BoltBus service to Philadelphia and Boston will pickup on 31st St/8th Av. Free shuttle bus provided by NICE, MTA and NYCT Buses, well as Van Service. Local shuttle bus/van serves all stations between Jamaica & Penn Station. Express shuttle bus/van service serves only Jamaica, Woodside, and Penn Station only. Please expect delays on NYC Subway, buses, Long Island Railroad, New Jersey Transit, NY Waterway Shuttle Buses, MegaBus, Bolt Bus, shuttle buses, PATH train, NYC Airporter, and Amtrak. During this time +M34+ and M34A+ Select Bus Service will be free boarding. Edited July 7, 2012 by FamousNYLover 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted July 7, 2012 Share #1243 Posted July 7, 2012 (edited) Due to horror movie make at following cemeteries following subway service will be affected. Washington Cemetery at Bay Parkway Station cannot be passed and Woodlawn Subway Station. In addition, Junius St station collasped on Livonia Av Stations. Also in addition, runaway tortoise has been crossing on train tracks at Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge which means trains cannot pass between Howard Beach and the Broad Channel. Affects train. Edited July 7, 2012 by FamousNYLover 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted July 7, 2012 Share #1244 Posted July 7, 2012 No trains between Utica Av and New Lots Av. Select southbound trains terminate at Bowling Green. No trains between Mosholu Pkwy and Woodlawn. No trains between Howard Beach and Broad Channel. No trains between 18 Av and Kings Hwy. Every other train runs via the line from West 4 St to Coney Island. No trains between B'way Junction and Canarsie. NEXT Because of a smoke condition, Queens Plaza is impassable. Reroute: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgor Posted July 7, 2012 Share #1245 Posted July 7, 2012 NEXT Because of a smoke condition, Queens Plaza is impassable. Reroute: runs via the between W 4th Street and Queens runs via 63rd Street between 57th/7th and Queens to Broad Street Please expect delays on service. ---- NEXT The MANHATTAN bound platform at DeKalb Avenue is impassible. The bypass tracks and the Brooklyn bound side are unaffected. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted July 7, 2012 Share #1246 Posted July 7, 2012 (edited) ^38 tph through 63 St would work really well... No trains between Whitehall St and 59 St. No trains between Prospect Park and 34 St. Trains run via the in both directions between West 4 St and Coney Island. NEXT No local trains can pass 59 St/CC. Affected: Edited July 7, 2012 by NX Express 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted July 7, 2012 Share #1247 Posted July 7, 2012 NEXT No local trains can pass 59 St/CC. Affected: suspended runs express between 59 St and Canal St uptown trains run express from 34 St to 72 St downtown trains run express from 96 St to 34 St 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted July 7, 2012 Share #1248 Posted July 7, 2012 The don't all fit on one track. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted July 7, 2012 Share #1249 Posted July 7, 2012 The don't all fit on one track. Good point. Okay, some trains are re-routed via Lexington Av express, and some trains run via Lexington Av local. Some trains leave service for Lenox or Livonia yard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted July 7, 2012 Share #1250 Posted July 7, 2012 (edited) DELETED Edited July 7, 2012 by TheSubwayStation 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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