R32 3838 Posted April 16, 2017 Share #1276 Posted April 16, 2017 You guys fail to realize JFK needs new 40 footers, their newest 40 foot bus is the next gen that are 2010 models and have alot of mileage. ECH should just get option order. JFK has way too many hybirds and we all know they're not as reliable as a diesel bus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far rockaway Posted April 16, 2017 Share #1277 Posted April 16, 2017 You guys fail to realize JFK needs new 40 footers, their newest 40 foot bus is the next gen that are 2010 models and have alot of mileage. ECH should just get option order. JFK has way too many hybirds and we all know they're not as reliable as a diesel bus. You got that right.Way too many hybrids. I can't stand the hyrbids especially the OG hybrids. Also can't believe how far the 96 RTS has been running. Good job for those RTS buses, keep it up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted April 17, 2017 Share #1278 Posted April 17, 2017 As long as we are sharing where the Xcelsiors should go, I think that it should be the following: 26 XD40 to ECH 14 XD40 to BP 35-40 XD60 for Woodhaven routes Remaining XD60 to BP for Q64 (Although I can see the XD60s going to the Q70 instead of the Q64 as well) Do you realize that MTABC isn't getting any new buses? They're getting them "Hand me downs" 371 XD40 covers: 71 for UP, 75 for Flatbush, 57 for ENY, 35 for GA, 50 for FP, and 55 for CS. The latter two to transfer O7s to other Depots. ECH will get NovaLFS They may scrap the XD60 order due to opposition from the community No XD60s for Q64. You don't need artics on the Q70, since it's a one stop format. LGA should get some of the option order------ THATS IF---they don't let their buses get into accidents again. NovaLFS, Quill should get the first 75 to replace their entire RTS fleet they have but should have special features in them. Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted April 17, 2017 Share #1279 Posted April 17, 2017 These speculations mean nothing. The assignments has NOT been agreed upon yet being those could go anywhere on the system when they do come. Let's just get a grip on reality and just wait and see what happens next. Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted April 17, 2017 Share #1280 Posted April 17, 2017 Do you realize that MTABC isn't getting any new buses? They're getting them "Hand me downs" 371 XD40 covers: 71 for UP, 75 for Flatbush, 57 for ENY, 35 for GA, 50 for FP, and 55 for CS. The latter two to transfer O7s to other Depots. ECH will get NovaLFS They may scrap the XD60 order due to opposition from the community No XD60s for Q64. You don't need artics on the Q70, since it's a one stop format. LGA should get some of the option order------ THATS IF---they don't let their buses get into accidents again. NovaLFS, Quill should get the first 75 to replace their entire RTS fleet they have but should have special features in them. Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app That's not what we were told.... MTA has decided to scrap the new RFP and reautorize the options for the last LFS and XD40 orders. 26 XD40's with options for 14 more, and 53 XD60's for MTABC. Even though yes this is speculation, it's just something that some of us were thinking. Yes JFK needs new buses, but the reason I chose BP and ECH for the XD40s is because of the amount of buses in the local standard fleet at both depots. Plus the fact that the artics may replace some of the hybrids at JFK/LGA/BP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted April 17, 2017 Share #1281 Posted April 17, 2017 That's not what we were told.... Even though yes this is speculation, it's just something that some of us were thinking. Yes JFK needs new buses, but the reason I chose BP and ECH for the XD40s is because of the amount of buses in the local standard fleet at both depots. Plus the fact that the artics may replace some of the hybrids at JFK/LGA/BP. BP does fine with the hybirds, they don't need more new 40 footers,just more artics could help and just leave BP with 3764-3783 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted April 17, 2017 Share #1282 Posted April 17, 2017 Um no....... ECH is NOT getting LFSs period. MTA Bus is getting 41 more XD-40s. Let's stop the nonsense speculations.thank you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted April 17, 2017 Share #1283 Posted April 17, 2017 Do you realize that MTABC isn't getting any new buses? They're getting them "Hand me downs" 371 XD40 covers: 71 for UP, 75 for Flatbush, 57 for ENY, 35 for GA, 50 for FP, and 55 for CS. The latter two to transfer O7s to other Depots. ECH will get NovaLFS They may scrap the XD60 order due to opposition from the community No XD60s for Q64. You don't need artics on the Q70, since it's a one stop format. LGA should get some of the option order------ THATS IF---they don't let their buses get into accidents again. NovaLFS, Quill should get the first 75 to replace their entire RTS fleet they have but should have special features in them. Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app LMAO the XD60 order is not getting scrapped... Plus as ShadeJay mentioned, ENY informed us that XD40s and XD60's for MTAB are on the way... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted April 17, 2017 Share #1284 Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) LMAO the XD60 order is not getting scrapped... Plus as ShadeJay mentioned, ENY informed us that XD40s and XD60's for MTAB are on the way... As of April 3rd, it's now a competitive RFP, so Nova could make their way into MTA Bus. Nova also protested the electric bus order along with others. It's no longer a shoe-in for New Flyer, even though the probability of them getting these orders is up there. It's 50/50 at this rate. They might have the advantage with their delivery rates, however. Edited April 17, 2017 by Cait Sith 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted April 17, 2017 Share #1285 Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) ^^^ Just to point out that just because Nova and New flyer and now "more competitive" than ever, this does not mean LFS to ECH. It just means that the chances of seeing an MTA LFS is a bit higher now. Personally I see the Xcelsiors in Brooklyn, OH, Stengel, and MTA bus, while the LFS are in the Bronx, Staten Island, the Village, Jamaica, Quill, and OF. Again my opinion, I know others have thoughts, but I'm not really going to to quote/respond to anyone because that's their thoughts and I respect that they are different from mine. Otherwise, I stand by what I said and will not change my thoughts until the orders are official. Edited April 17, 2017 by ShadeJay 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far rockaway Posted April 18, 2017 Share #1286 Posted April 18, 2017 I think MTA bus should get LFS instead of XD40'S 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Bus Co. Posted April 18, 2017 Share #1287 Posted April 18, 2017 I think MTA bus should get LFS instead of XD40'S Most passengers aren't picky. They will ride whatever shows up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Bus Posted April 19, 2017 Share #1288 Posted April 19, 2017 I would love to see some LFSAs for MTA Bus, especially id they spec them like 5439. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennyj17 Posted April 19, 2017 Share #1289 Posted April 19, 2017 ^^^ Just to point out that just because Nova and New flyer and now "more competitive" than ever, this does not mean LFS to ECH. It just means that the chances of seeing an MTA LFS is a bit higher now. Personally I see the Xcelsiors in Brooklyn, OH, Stengel, and MTA bus, while the LFS are in the Bronx, Staten Island, the Village, Jamaica, Quill, and OF. Again my opinion, I know others have thoughts, but I'm not really going to to quote/respond to anyone because that's their thoughts and I respect that they are different from mine. Otherwise, I stand by what I said and will not change my thoughts until the orders are official. ECH is a BX depot .... I can see ECH getting Novas over XD's since MTA wants the Boroughs uniformed in fleets. But I still think ECH will continue to be a "Hand Me Down" depot as far as Local Fleet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted April 20, 2017 Share #1290 Posted April 20, 2017 I would love to see some LFSAs for MTA Bus, especially id they spec them like 5439. They are. Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTransitMan4608 Posted April 20, 2017 Share #1291 Posted April 20, 2017 I would love to see some LFSAs for MTA Bus, especially id they spec them like 5439.Speaking of 5439, where has it been? I haven't seen it since...well...when I rode it. Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridgeviewer382 Posted April 20, 2017 Share #1292 Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) Speaking of 5439, where has it been? I haven't seen it since...well...when I rode it. Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app Its still running regularly at Kingsbridge. Edited April 20, 2017 by Kingsbridgeviewer382 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted April 20, 2017 Share #1293 Posted April 20, 2017 6049, 6053, 6057, 703, 753, 709, 756, 705, 5997, 6009, 707, 5991, 706, 6013, 6055, 744 spotted at vendor today Some of these buses already saw revenue service. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted April 20, 2017 Share #1294 Posted April 20, 2017 Why are some being sent back to vendor tho? Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted April 20, 2017 Share #1295 Posted April 20, 2017 Why are some being sent back to vendor tho? Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app probably little tweaks are needed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted April 22, 2017 Share #1296 Posted April 22, 2017 Why are some being sent back to vendor tho? Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app Adjustments and vendor work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djtoro7 Posted April 22, 2017 Share #1297 Posted April 22, 2017 There are 2 New Flyer XN40s rolling on the B43 today. 743 & 746! Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted April 22, 2017 Share #1298 Posted April 22, 2017 742 was on the B16 earlier according to a friend. Can't wait to see these on the B16 and B63 school trippers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted April 23, 2017 Share #1299 Posted April 23, 2017 They are. Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app As of right now, they are not. Nothing has been set in stone yet. They just recently put out the RFP. There has been no confirmation as to what they are getting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share #1300 Posted April 26, 2017 Major update on the alternative fuel/hybrid orders coming soon. In the meanwhile New Bus Qualification is gearing up to full swing again. With the Proterra evaluation lease, MTA officially starts the program again. This model along with any other unqualified model such as the BYD, will go through full evaluation and shaker testing. Still pending are at least 2 more electric pilots, 40 foot hybrids, electric hybrids, and CNG artics. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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