RES2773 Posted January 28, 2017 Share #1076 Posted January 28, 2017 I know this is pretty random, but the MTA local fleet seems to be exclusively New Flyer and Nova (not considering Orion b/c they shut down). Any idea why a pretty big player in the game such as Gillig wouldn't be given any contracts? Thanks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted January 28, 2017 Share #1077 Posted January 28, 2017 I know this is pretty random, but the MTA local fleet seems to be exclusively New Flyer and Nova (not considering Orion b/c they shut down). Any idea why a pretty big player in the game such as Gillig wouldn't be given any contracts? Thanks. Gillig has point blank refused to bid on anything MTA. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted January 28, 2017 Share #1078 Posted January 28, 2017 Gillig has point blank refused to bid on anything MTA. Yup, same with NABI(when they were around). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RES2773 Posted January 28, 2017 Share #1079 Posted January 28, 2017 Gillig has point blank refused to bid on anything MTA. Yup, same with NABI(when they were around). Any idea why? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted January 29, 2017 Share #1080 Posted January 29, 2017 Yup, same with NABI(when they were around).And Van Hool lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob3737 Posted January 30, 2017 Share #1081 Posted January 30, 2017 Gilligs and NABI's wouldn't pass the shaker test 1, 2 most bus manufacturers who deal with the TA long term......go under 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share #1082 Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) Minor update. Final assignments are now pending and should be in within the next 24 hours, unless it's delayed for the 36th time! Lol. However, now that we have a handle on what buses are coming, the hybrids still need to be factored in because none of these are actually supposed to be going to Manhattanville. If that's the case, we may have yet another delay. If the hybrids come into account later, we could have concrete assignments on all the current incoming buses. And Van Hool lol Van Hool actually is willing to work with NYCT. We were supposed to get an order of Double Decker buses for express service, however after demo testising it was decided by the DOB that the buses would be limited to where they can operate because of the height. EC and Yonkers were the only depots. Same with the Millennium RTS Express. It was determined that they could only operate effectively out of SC, and would not be easily transferable within the system. Gilligs and NABI's wouldn't pass the shaker test 1, 2 most bus manufacturers who deal with the TA long term......go underThey could both pass the shaker, it's just that neither of them were willing to work with the TA because they are notorious for failing ALL manufacturers at audit inspection at one time or another. Those are risks NABI was not, and Gillig is not willing to take. One of the most notorious failed audit inspections of all time was with TMC/Nova. 8600-8703 had a flawless entry into service and was the last of the TMC's. 8750 was next in line, built buy the EXACT same people (note they still work for MTS to this day) and MTA failed 8750, and required terms MTS could not reach for the Extreme Low-Floor. Some are not willing to take the risk that's associated with ANY NYC Transit/Bus Company order. Edited February 1, 2017 by East New York 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted February 4, 2017 Share #1083 Posted February 4, 2017 I notice that a lot of these new orders have four pilot buses but the TA only gets one bus in advance before the production buses come why is that? XN60 info in the first post, 4 pliot buses will come later this year but I expect only one bus to show up, run in service for a few months, then the production buses arrive. It seems like every order follows that pattern 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted February 4, 2017 Share #1084 Posted February 4, 2017 I notice that a lot of these new orders have four pilot buses but the TA only gets one bus in advance before the production buses come why is that? XN60 info in the first post, 4 pliot buses will come later this year but I expect only one bus to show up, run in service for a few months, then the production buses arrive. It seems like every order follows that pattern [emoji38] 1 of the 5 pilot XN40s came because the other 4 failed the audit. 676 got sent back, and I don't think 673-675 made it down 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted February 5, 2017 Share #1085 Posted February 5, 2017 There's a typo in the upcoming bus order info on the first page of this thread: "2017-18 NovaBus LFSA : 60' low floor diesel transit coach. Pilot buses 5440-5342 will be delivered Jan. '17, production buses due by March '18." Also, u could get rid of some of the info like the board info on jan 23, since that already passed. Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share #1086 Posted February 5, 2017 There's a typo in the upcoming bus order info on the first page of this thread: "2017-18 NovaBus LFSA : 60' low floor diesel transit coach. Pilot buses 5440-5342 will be delivered Jan. '17, production buses due by March '18." Also, u could get rid of some of the info like the board info on jan 23, since that already passed. Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app Thanks. A few updates need to be made. Now that things are confirmed what you mentioned and other info that says pending can be changed to confirmed. The Hybrids also need to be added in, and the build years need to be changed to 2016-2018 LFSA. 5439 and 5440 were built last year. 5439 is technically a 2015 model, with a 2016 build date. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmallard Posted February 6, 2017 Share #1087 Posted February 6, 2017 the 628 is this a new bus order was this part of that large nova/new flyer. nycta had order 414 nova and 268 new flyer and took option 168 nova and 252 new flyer.. nycta had options for 208 more they never took . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted February 7, 2017 Share #1088 Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) the 628 is this a new bus order was this part of that large nova/new flyer. nycta had order 414 nova and 268 new flyer and took option 168 nova and 252 new flyer.. nycta had options for 208 more they never took . That's old recycled news from like a year ago. Times have changed recently lol Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk Edited February 7, 2017 by Metro CSW 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted February 8, 2017 Share #1089 Posted February 8, 2017 Did one of the XN40 pilots get delivered recently? I saw a pic on my Instagram feed of a Q10 bus and you can see an XN40 in that JFK lot in the background. I couldn't make out the number though... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted February 8, 2017 Share #1090 Posted February 8, 2017 Did one of the XN40 pilots get delivered recently? I saw a pic on my Instagram feed of a Q10 bus and you can see an XN40 in that JFK lot in the background. I couldn't make out the number though... Nothing new got delivered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted February 8, 2017 Share #1091 Posted February 8, 2017 I think he sees 676 which has been sitting there for awhile. Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted February 8, 2017 Share #1092 Posted February 8, 2017 I think he sees 676 which has been sitting there for awhile. Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app Ok, that explains it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted February 8, 2017 Share #1093 Posted February 8, 2017 Do you think they're going to use 97-98' RTS'es tmrw ? cuz there's gonna be heavy snowfall, thus, suspension of artics. Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTransitMan4608 Posted February 9, 2017 Share #1094 Posted February 9, 2017 Do you think they're going to use 97-98' RTS'es tmrw ? cuz there's gonna be heavy snowfall, thus, suspension of artics. Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app Most likely. You'll probably see Queens Division buses up in the Bronx filling in for KB and GH artic routes. WF might be to hold their own with CNGs and RTS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted February 10, 2017 Share #1095 Posted February 10, 2017 I think he sees 676 which has been sitting there for awhile. Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app 676 hasn't been there for a while. It was sent back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted February 10, 2017 Share #1096 Posted February 10, 2017 676 hasn't been there for a while. It was sent back. Well, maybe the picture was taken a while back, but it was definitely 676 in the photo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Train92 Posted February 10, 2017 Share #1097 Posted February 10, 2017 Didn't someone say 678 was here a while back? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted February 10, 2017 Share #1098 Posted February 10, 2017 Didn't someone say 678 was here a while back?678 never arrived. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted February 10, 2017 Share #1099 Posted February 10, 2017 Didn't someone say 678 was here a while back? No. Order behind schedule. Hope these buses get here soon and get acceptance from Zerega and head to respective depots. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted February 14, 2017 Share #1100 Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) So, an XDE40 from MBTA came to visit 2 Broadway earlier today. What makes this interesting is that this is a BAE Series-E hybrid drive equipped bus, and apparently, the execs like the idea of the engine shutting off at bus stops to save fuel. The chances that we will get BAE's once again seems to be going up. For those that don't know what that's like, here's a video I shot on-board an XDE40 with that same spec. Edited February 14, 2017 by Cait Sith 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.