Cait Sith Posted March 20, 2019 Share #3276 Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Lil 57 said: I'll be surprised if those buses come before 2020. If the wants new buses for the S79 SBS their best bet will be to wrap some existing NOVAs. If SI wants the NGs off the island, trading with the Bronx or Queens isn't a bad idea for the time being. They'll be here before 2020..... I did say SOME buses were sent back....not ALL! Edited March 20, 2019 by Cait Sith 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted March 20, 2019 Share #3277 Posted March 20, 2019 Do we know which units and how many have been built already? I saw a pic of 8546 without stripes but I wonder if all units from 8504 to 8546 are built or are they skipping around numbers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Transit Posted March 20, 2019 Share #3278 Posted March 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, Around the Horn said: Do we know which units and how many have been built already? I saw a pic of 8546 without stripes but I wonder if all units from 8504 to 8546 are built or are they skipping around numbers. Really??? Where's the pic ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted March 21, 2019 Share #3279 Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, King Transit said: Really??? Where's the pic ? on myspace 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog14 Posted March 21, 2019 Share #3280 Posted March 21, 2019 18 hours ago, King Transit said: Really??? Where's the pic ? All its is a just a blue 40 foot version of 5531+ (all blue with the back being all yellow) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted March 21, 2019 Share #3281 Posted March 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, Orion6025 said: Also 8511 to QV I noticed we had some units return to the plant. Hopefully with this delivery the order will commence in a matter of weeks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted March 22, 2019 Share #3282 Posted March 22, 2019 Is 8511at QV? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted March 22, 2019 Share #3283 Posted March 22, 2019 Who would've known the RTS buses have less than 60 days of service left 🥰🥰. About damnn time.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B22viaAtlanticAv Posted March 22, 2019 Share #3284 Posted March 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said: Who would've known the RTS buses have less than 60 days of service left 🥰🥰. About damnn time.... "MTA vows to scrap all of its old diesel buses by early May" https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-mta-buses-brooklyn-rts-scrap-diesel-20190322-gnicunimtndgxiwnpjyrrzkxhy-story.html Yea IDK about all that but, when will get there we all see... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwwnyc123 Posted March 22, 2019 Share #3285 Posted March 22, 2019 Wow can't believe all of the RTS Buses especially are leaving us End of a very long Era. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted March 22, 2019 Share #3286 Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) Some posters here praising the RTS’ retirement will be the same exact ones complaining that newer buses don’t last as long and how “old equipment” is always better. Then there will be several members out of nowhere will suddenly going on about how they were “the best buses we had”. Just give it time.... Edited March 22, 2019 by S78 via Hylan 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted March 22, 2019 Share #3287 Posted March 22, 2019 They will regret it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted March 22, 2019 Share #3288 Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, S78 via Hylan said: Some posters here praising the RTS’ retirement will be the same exact ones complaining that newer buses don’t last as long and how “old equipment” is always better. Then there will be several members out of nowhere will suddenly going on about how they were “the best buses we had”. Just give it time.... If they would've modernized them that's a different story. It's 2019...after being used to one thing that's a major downgrade. For passengers and drivers. Who cares how long it last, at the end of the day there will always be newer buses, more comfortable and stylish. I never understood how they're the best buses...how? For maintenance, for structural reasons? That's all under the hood shit, from a passenger POV, they're the worst, especially compared to whats out there NOW. Back when there were Orion Vs. I preferred Orion Vs because they were more spacious. Some of yall need to stop living in the past and get with the times, time to upgrade stop holding on, it's not that serious. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limitednyc Posted March 22, 2019 Share #3289 Posted March 22, 2019 They said the when the fish bowls/ blitz's we're retired. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted March 22, 2019 Share #3290 Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said: If they would've modernized them that's a different story. It's 2019...after being used to one thing that's a major downgrade. For passengers and drivers. Who cares how long it last, at the end of the day there will always be newer buses, more comfortable and stylish. I never understood how they're the best buses...how? For maintenance, for structural reasons? That's all under the hood shit, from a passenger POV, they're the worst, especially compared to whats out there NOW. Back when there were Orion Vs. I preferred Orion Vs because they were more spacious. Some of yall need to stop living in the past and get with the times, time to upgrade stop holding on, it's not that serious. Sometimes, upgrades aren't really "upgrades", especially when it comes to the space of the new LF buses. In terms of overall reliability, the RTS fleet have been the best for many, many years. A lot of drivers will often go after the RTS over anything new because of how they drive and such, especially the senior ops who dislike all of the computerized stuff that the new buses have. As for passenger POVs, I wouldn't completely say that. There are times where passengers have passed up a LF for an RTS because of the space(especially in Jamaica). And the RTS & Orion Vs practically had the same amount of space. Edited March 22, 2019 by Cait Sith 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted March 22, 2019 Share #3291 Posted March 22, 2019 I just realized the last Detroit Diesel powered bus the TA will operate will be one of those Green sign MCIs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTS9302 Posted March 22, 2019 Share #3292 Posted March 22, 2019 Quick Question: other than the 6500s is LGA meant to get anything else???? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremiahC99 Posted March 22, 2019 Share #3293 Posted March 22, 2019 56 minutes ago, RTS9302 said: Quick Question: other than the 6500s is LGA meant to get anything else???? They have an upcoming 53 bus order of XD60 buses split between them and JFK/Far Rockaway Depots for the Q52+ and Q53+. 43 for the main service, and 10 for the service expansion. This will displace the current fleet of XD60s 6030-6092 (even) and 6110-6124 (even) that are leased to MTA Bus that are bound for Tuskegee Airmen depot and one other depot. LGA and JFK Depot are also slated to get 33 Orion VIIs from East NY Depot (most likely) to replace the 24 Orion VIIs they currently have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTS9302 Posted March 22, 2019 Share #3294 Posted March 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, JeremiahC99 said: They have an upcoming 53 bus order of XD60 buses split between them and JFK/Far Rockaway Depots for the Q52+ and Q53+. 43 for the main service, and 10 for the service expansion. This will displace the current fleet of XD60s 6030-6092 (even) and 6110-6124 (even) that are leased to MTA Bus that are bound for Tuskegee Airmen depot and one other depot. LGA and JFK Depot are also slated to get 33 Orion VIIs from East NY Depot (most likely) to replace the 24 Orion VIIs they currently have. thank you! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted March 23, 2019 Share #3295 Posted March 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Orion6025 said: 7688 7691 & 7693 to EN lmaoo Whoa. This is interesting. WF starting to return buses to East New York. They need to return back to Ulmer Park and Fresh Pond. Looks Like FB’s LFSA going to 3 places: WF, KB and Grand Avenue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted March 23, 2019 Share #3296 Posted March 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Calvin said: 5351 Flatbush to Grand Av Very interesting to see how this plays out with Grand Avenue accepting LFSA’s for the Q58 and possibly the B38 since they both interline in Ridgewood. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion6025 Posted March 23, 2019 Share #3297 Posted March 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Future ENY OP said: Whoa. This is interesting. WF starting to return buses to East New York. They need to return back to Ulmer Park and Fresh Pond. Those were Jamaica buses. WF still has all its 28 Xcels 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremiahC99 Posted March 23, 2019 Share #3298 Posted March 23, 2019 31 minutes ago, Future ENY OP said: Whoa. This is interesting. WF starting to return buses to East New York. They need to return back to Ulmer Park and Fresh Pond. Honestly, what they need to do now is take C40LFs 230-250, 351-353 from Gleason to fill in the shortage , and have the 21 buses that will be assigned to them sent to Flatbush. With articulation of the B35, it looks like they won't need a lot of buses to cover all of its routes, especially since the headways were supposedly decreased. If they cant do that, send in 25 NG hybrids to WF, since they are already borrowing one of them (4100) from another depot just to cover service. If they are continuing to use that bus to cover service, just have an additional 24 NGs set up shop there. 100+169+25=194 buses, more than enough to cover service on the local routes at West Farms. From there, EN and UP should give the 73xx buses they have back to FB and instead man up and take on some hybrids for the time being. Enter the retirement of the 2004-05 Orion VIIs, and EN should get 58 more NGs, for a total of 70 NGs. Finally, displace the 22 NG at UP with 25 new XDE40s and supplement the 70 NGs there with 20 new XDE40s to retire the 2006-07 NGs. If the drivers don't want to drive them, they should incentivize them into doing so by telling them that if you (the drivers) drive the NGs, you will get extra pay onto your paycheck, similar to how driving an artic would add an extra 25 cents an hour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted March 23, 2019 Share #3299 Posted March 23, 2019 (edited) 42 minutes ago, JeremiahC99 said: Honestly, what they need to do now is take C40LFs 230-250, 351-353 from Gleason to fill in the shortage , and have the 21 buses that will be assigned to them sent to Flatbush. With articulation of the B35, it looks like they won't need a lot of buses to cover all of its routes, especially since the headways were supposedly decreased. If they cant do that, send in 25 NG hybrids to WF, since they are already borrowing one of them (4100) from another depot just to cover service. If they are continuing to use that bus to cover service, just have an additional 24 NGs set up shop there. 100+169+25=194 buses, more than enough to cover service on the local routes at West Farms. From there, EN and UP should give the 73xx buses they have back to FB and instead man up and take on some hybrids for the time being. Enter the retirement of the 2004-05 Orion VIIs, and EN should get 58 more NGs, for a total of 70 NGs. Finally, displace the 22 NG at UP with 25 new XDE40s and supplement the 70 NGs there with 20 new XDE40s to retire the 2006-07 NGs. If the drivers don't want to drive them, they should incentivize them into doing so by telling them that if you (the drivers) drive the NGs, you will get extra pay onto your paycheck, similar to how driving an artic would add an extra 25 cents an hour. Fam. How bout this. You are asking for too much right now. That’s if the Department of Buses wants to go that route. I highly don’t think is going to happen. Also, Flatbush is NOT getting any additional XD40’s for local service. It’s been discussed a few dozen times. Unless something major happens don’t expect Flatbush to get any more XD40’s unless it’s transfers from UP and East New York. Edited March 23, 2019 by Future ENY OP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremiahC99 Posted March 23, 2019 Share #3300 Posted March 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Future ENY OP said: Fam. How bout this. You are asking for too much right now. That’s if the Department of Buses wants to go that route if I highly don’t think is going to happen. Also, Flatbush is NOT getting any additional XD40’s for local service. It’s been discussed a few dozen times. Unless something major happens don’t expect Flatbush to get any more XD40’s unless it’s transfers from UP and East New York. I was just making some suggestions here. Yes it won’t happen, but this is just what could have happened if they had that damn Orion VII CNG situation at WF completely under control, which they didn’t, thus causing some of the XD40s to go there one way or another to cover for the rapid Orion VII CNGs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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