Future ENY OP Posted January 22, 2019 Share #2851 Posted January 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said: BYD entering program? LOL, good luck! https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.abqjournal.com/1246094/abq-rejecting-all-byd-art-buses-switching-to-non-electric.html/amp Just stick with New Flyer honestly. Consistency is key, if it aint broke, don't fix it. I agree. However, this is the Metropolitan Transportation Authority they will do anything to break up a good thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted January 22, 2019 Share #2852 Posted January 22, 2019 24 minutes ago, Future ENY OP said: I agree. However, this is the Metropolitan Transportation Authority they will do anything to break up a good thing. They go where it’s most dependable on 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremiahC99 Posted January 22, 2019 Share #2853 Posted January 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Brillant93 said: So is Flatbush getting their new buses first? Just asking because their numbers are last on the list. I know that they got two XD60s from Quill but usually when orders come in they start with the lowest ones from what I have seen. As with all bus deliveries, they will be delivered out of order. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted January 22, 2019 Share #2854 Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, JeremiahC99 said: As with all bus deliveries, they will be delivered out of order. Who said and confirmed that? Yes it's true it happens often but plans always change. Flatbush could get some buses and move them to 146. Flatbush's delivery could be delayed a bit before delivery commences. In fact, it's possible for both depots to deliver simultaneously. Let's just wait and see what happens. Edited January 22, 2019 by MysteriousBtrain 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted January 22, 2019 Share #2855 Posted January 22, 2019 Not to go off-topic but was there a note that the Q52/53 SBS are getting extra XD-60s for service accommodation? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brillant93 Posted January 22, 2019 Share #2856 Posted January 22, 2019 Thanks for the insight. I’m not well versed in this yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted January 22, 2019 Share #2857 Posted January 22, 2019 3 hours ago, JeremiahC99 said: As with all bus deliveries, they will be delivered out of order. ?????? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melbx15 Posted January 23, 2019 Share #2858 Posted January 23, 2019 22 hours ago, East New York said: XD60 Options (6126-6233) - Delivery now pending, and I am being told the planned SBS assignments are as folllows. 6126-6176 (51) to Hale 6177-6233 (57) to Flatbush Wasn’t the Oder supposed to be 6126 - 6286 are they not replacing the woodhaven blvd sbs fleet nomore ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brillant93 Posted January 23, 2019 Share #2859 Posted January 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Melbx15 said: Wasn’t the Oder supposed to be 6126 - 6286 are they not replacing the woodhaven blvd sbs fleet nomore ? Mta bus has their own order. You have to read the first page on this thread. 9 hours ago, Calvin said: Not to go off-topic but was there a note that the Q52/53 SBS are getting extra XD-60s for service accommodation? Yes they are, extra 10 buses or so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted January 23, 2019 Share #2860 Posted January 23, 2019 14 hours ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said: BYD entering program? LOL, good luck! https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.abqjournal.com/1246094/abq-rejecting-all-byd-art-buses-switching-to-non-electric.html/amp Just stick with New Flyer honestly. Consistency is key, if it aint broke, don't fix it. The BYD we had passed tests with very little problems. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted January 23, 2019 Share #2861 Posted January 23, 2019 If only Nova could lower their price, New Flyer could have real competition. I think that’s what it comes down to. Also Nova hasn’t been experimenting that much or maybe I just don’t know about it. They have been touting the same LFS model for years making slight modifications here and there. Meanwhile, New Flyer has tried multiple fuel types with their Xcelsior brand. It just feels like Nova isn’t even trying anymore which is sad cuz I like Novas better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted January 23, 2019 Share #2862 Posted January 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, danielhg121 said: If only Nova could lower their price, New Flyer could have real competition. I think that’s what it comes down to. Also Nova hasn’t been experimenting that much or maybe I just don’t know about it. They have been touting the same LFS model for years making slight modifications here and there. Meanwhile, New Flyer has tried multiple fuel types with their Xcelsior brand. It just feels like Nova isn’t even trying anymore which is sad cuz I like Novas better. The thing about Nova is that their design works and is popular it’s just that most of their business is up north. Going between Buffalo and Toronto almost every transit agency (with the exception to GO Transit) has Nova buses l. Most of them being gen 4 too. Nova bus is pretty much going by the model of if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. New Flyer for the most part is competing with everyone. That also includes Gillig which a lot of transit agencies like due to their low cost. That being said having been on some of gen 1 LFS and gen 4 CNG LFS in Buffalo, it’s very clear why they were picked. In Buffalo those buses are driving on snow and ice and on roads that are completely torn up. They have routes where the buses go on bridges with steep inclines while snowing. Yet theses buses have little to no problems. In fact the gen 1 buses are out lasting Gilligs in their fleet. IMO of the MTA actually invested in Nova bus and just waited the time it would end up much better for them. Nova buses always feel like they’re built with quality. I’m really confident that these buses will outlast the New Flyers too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brillant93 Posted January 23, 2019 Share #2863 Posted January 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, IAlam said: The thing about Nova is that their design works and is popular it’s just that most of their business is up north. Going between Buffalo and Toronto almost every transit agency (with the exception to GO Transit) has Nova buses l. Most of them being gen 4 too. Nova bus is pretty much going by the model of if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. New Flyer for the most part is competing with everyone. That also includes Gillig which a lot of transit agencies like due to their low cost. That being said having been on some of gen 1 LFS and gen 4 CNG LFS in Buffalo, it’s very clear why they were picked. In Buffalo those buses are driving on snow and ice and on roads that are completely torn up. They have routes where the buses go on bridges with steep inclines while snowing. Yet theses buses have little to no problems. In fact the gen 1 buses are out lasting Gilligs in their fleet. IMO of the MTA actually invested in Nova bus and just waited the time it would end up much better for them. Nova buses always feel like they’re built with quality. I’m really confident that these buses will outlast the New Flyers too. Weren’t nova the ones who built the 1999 rts which people on here love so much? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armani Posted January 23, 2019 Share #2864 Posted January 23, 2019 49 minutes ago, Brillant93 said: Weren’t nova the ones who built the 1999 rts which people on here love so much? Yep 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limitednyc Posted January 23, 2019 Share #2865 Posted January 23, 2019 now that in seems that the L shutdown is off, when will the the last rts be retired? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brillant93 Posted January 23, 2019 Share #2866 Posted January 23, 2019 25 minutes ago, limitednyc said: now that in seems that the L shutdown is off, when will the the last rts be retired? I’m assuming it will be soon enough. They’re trying to get these older buses out so I guess wait till the end of this year to see what is left. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted January 23, 2019 Share #2867 Posted January 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Brillant93 said: Weren’t nova the ones who built the 1999 rts which people on here love so much? Yep, but how much different they are from the GMC RTS other than the way they look and the engine? That's why I'd put a * on giving Nova credit for the RTS considering it's not their orginal design. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brillant93 Posted January 23, 2019 Share #2868 Posted January 23, 2019 25 minutes ago, limitednyc said: now that in seems that the L shutdown is off, when will the the last rts be retired? I’m assuming it will be soon enough. They’re trying to get these older buses out so I guess wait till the end of this year to see what is left. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted January 23, 2019 Share #2869 Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, danielhg121 said: If only Nova could lower their price, New Flyer could have real competition. I think that’s what it comes down to. Also Nova hasn’t been experimenting that much or maybe I just don’t know about it. They have been touting the same LFS model for years making slight modifications here and there. Meanwhile, New Flyer has tried multiple fuel types with their Xcelsior brand. It just feels like Nova isn’t even trying anymore which is sad cuz I like Novas better. It's not just about the price, it's also about meeting the delivery schedules. New Flyer excels at meeting the delivery schedules. Nova tends to have delays in their orders for various reasons, but lately, they seem to be getting back on track with other agencies. Edited January 23, 2019 by Cait Sith 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted January 24, 2019 Share #2870 Posted January 24, 2019 6128 on its way to NYC JFK lot 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brillant93 Posted January 24, 2019 Share #2871 Posted January 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, Calvin said: 6128 on its way to NYC JFK lot it begins 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted January 24, 2019 Share #2872 Posted January 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, Calvin said: 6128 on its way to NYC JFK lot Here we go. The start of the 2019 xd60. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted January 24, 2019 Share #2873 Posted January 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Cait Sith said: It's not just about the price, it's also about meeting the delivery schedules. New Flyer excels at meeting the delivery schedules. Nova tends to have delays in their orders for various reasons, but lately, they seem to be getting back on track with other agencies. Honestly I'd rather take delays for quality buses. I have already two experiences with the new XD40's leaking during rain. Honestly I wonder how some of those buses even made it into service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted January 24, 2019 Share #2874 Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, IAlam said: Honestly I'd rather take delays for quality buses. I have already two experiences with the new XD40's leaking during rain. Honestly I wonder how some of those buses even made it into service. That happens with any new bus. Some of our new Novas leak when it rains too. Leaks often happen around the emergency exit hatch, and sometimes around the HVAC vents. Those are the most common spots. Edited January 24, 2019 by Cait Sith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted January 24, 2019 Share #2875 Posted January 24, 2019 22 minutes ago, Cait Sith said: That happens with any new bus. Some of our new Novas leak when it rains too. Leaks often happen around the emergency exit hatch, and sometimes around the HVAC vents. Those are the most common spots. I can understand a couple drops from the emergency exit but the first bus this happened to me it was like it was pouring from the roof. That to me is unacceptable HAVC or not, there is no reason a constant flow of water to be falling off the roof from a bus. If I need an umbrella to ride inside a bus then it is just plain unacceptable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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