QM1to6Ave Posted February 4, 2018 Share #22426 Posted February 4, 2018 4 hours ago, danielhg121 said: That's a great idea! The color of the TBTA and State Trooper cars can match the colors of the bus. Jokes aside, I think it would help ticket some of the passengers that get a bit fussy with the Eagle Team and they end up walking away with no ticket. My parents bought up this point and I didn't really realize it myself till I saw it. I was on an s/b Q44-SBS and Eagle Team boarded at 20th Avenue, this one guy started yelling "This is f*cking bullshit! I had my ticket". He gets pulled off but some reason he gets back on the bus. One of the Eagle Team guys say "Sir, you can't ride the bus....", then we all wait for him to get off the bus. This took so long that another Q44-SBS ended up bypassing us, skipping inspection lol. Anyways, the guy gets off willingly throwing a temper tantrum and he walks away with no ticket or anything. LOL I've wondered how often that happens, since the Eagle idiots have no more power than a store security guard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The MTA Posted February 4, 2018 Share #22427 Posted February 4, 2018 Random question/thought. Why did 1016, the XN60 go to West Farms and not to another borough depot? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brillant93 Posted February 4, 2018 Share #22428 Posted February 4, 2018 24 minutes ago, Ladywolf said: Random question/thought. Why did 1016, the XN60 go to West Farms and not to another borough depot? My educated guess from me reading from the forum the past two months. It’s a cng bus and I believe there’s only a few in the city that are cng. West Farms is planning on becoming all cng in the future so I guess they’re using it as a test because. They will be replacing all their articulate fleet which are not cng buses with XN60s. So instead of sending the XN60 to Jackie Gleason which is going to have them in the future it’s easier to see how it does at a depot that has routes that are already articulated instead of sending them to depots that don’t have articulated fleets. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog14 Posted February 4, 2018 Share #22429 Posted February 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Ladywolf said: Random question/thought. Why did 1016, the XN60 go to West Farms and not to another borough depot? Unless its another CNG depot, the bus cannot go anywhere else. West Farms is supposed to get the bulk of the XN60s with the rest going to gleason. Its possible that MTA Bus gets some in the future if they have demand (Q25 SBS and B103 off the top my head might make candidates). Gleason has been training with 6110 in the past. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemoreira81 Posted February 4, 2018 Share #22430 Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ladywolf said: Random question/thought. Why did 1016, the XN60 go to West Farms and not to another borough depot? There are only four CNG depots...West Farms, College Point, Jackie Gleason, and Spring Creek. The N means CNG-powered articulated buses. That said, CNG or diesel, the B103 could use articulated buses. 7 hours ago, danielhg121 said: That's a great idea! The color of the TBTA and State Trooper cars can match the colors of the bus. Jokes aside, I think it would help ticket some of the passengers that get a bit fussy with the Eagle Team and they end up walking away with no ticket. My parents bought up this point and I didn't really realize it myself till I saw it. I was on an s/b Q44-SBS and Eagle Team boarded at 20th Avenue, this one guy started yelling "This is f*cking bullshit! I had my ticket". He gets pulled off but some reason he gets back on the bus. One of the Eagle Team guys say "Sir, you can't ride the bus....", then we all wait for him to get off the bus. This took so long that another Q44-SBS ended up bypassing us, skipping inspection lol. Anyways, the guy gets off willingly throwing a temper tantrum and he walks away with no ticket or anything. That is what I was thinking as well. One should have people with at least peace officer status enforcing the rules. Also one has to keep in mind that state troopers have been on a ticket blitz within city limits (although currently, the troopers are rotated in 2 weeks at a time from upstate until a full-scale barracks is established within city limits)...they wrote nearly 16,000 traffic summonses last year. TBTA Police or state troopers would be able to then check to see if these evaders are wanted on something else. The state police is basically under a mandate of zero tolerance. Edited February 4, 2018 by aemoreira81 Quoted another post 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted February 4, 2018 Share #22431 Posted February 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, aemoreira81 said: That is what I was thinking as well. One should have people with at least peace officer status enforcing the rules. Also one has to keep in mind that state troopers have been on a ticket blitz within city limits (although currently, the troopers are rotated in 2 weeks at a time from upstate until a full-scale barracks is established within city limits)...they wrote nearly 16,000 traffic summonses last year. TBTA Police or state troopers would be able to then check to see if these evaders are wanted on something else. The state police is basically under a mandate of zero tolerance. Right now state police are looking for barracks in the Bronx. Usually I see them along the Throggs Neck Bridge area on the Bronx/Westchester Bound. I believe there's state police barracks out in Long Island. I forget which area. However, those troopers also rotate between Long Island and the city. Also, those troopers I've observed are also seen at JFK. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemoreira81 Posted February 4, 2018 Share #22432 Posted February 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Future ENY OP said: Right now state police are looking for barracks in the Bronx. Usually I see them along the Throggs Neck Bridge area on the Bronx/Westchester Bound. I believe there's state police barracks out in Long Island. I forget which area. However, those troopers also rotate between Long Island and the city. Also, those troopers I've observed are also seen at JFK. If the Brooklyn DDSO is ever closed, that property could be partially repurposed as a barracks, and it would be better located with respect to the airports and SBS (with SUNY Maritime as a satellite). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted February 4, 2018 Share #22433 Posted February 4, 2018 Funny how we're talking about SBS fare enforcement & what not, but on the subway side of things, they're talking about having police abstaining from detaining turnstile jumpers... Inconsistency or double standard? You be the judge.... LMFAO !! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted February 4, 2018 Share #22434 Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, B35 via Church said: Funny how we're talking about SBS fare enforcement & what not, but on the subway side of things, they're talking about having police abstaining from detaining turnstile jumpers... Inconsistency or double standard? You be the judge.... LMFAO !! Speaking of which, coming back from Target last night, I did the short walk back to the QM2 at Parsons and 20th. There was a guy ahead of me who decided to walk as well since no buses were coming. In my case, a QM2 was due and I didn't want to wait for the next one. He gets to the stop before me and I don't see him get a ticket at all. In fact, he didn't even go near the ticket machines. Eventually a Q44 comes and he gets on through the second door, so I said to myself he's just going to get on without paying huh... If I were a betting man, I would say last night would be a good night to pick if you were going to farebeat. It was brutally cold, so I couldn't see any Eagle Teams being out. HOWEVER, they have been out on the M79-SBS pulling people off of the bus, but always at the same stop (Central Park West and West 81st). It wasn't that cold whatever night that was though, but I'm guessing they have nowhere to wait to stay warm, or maybe they hang out in the subway. I do that sometimes if no banks or cafés are around. I mean no point in standing out in the elements if you can relax somewhere warm until a bus is due. Edited February 4, 2018 by Via Garibaldi 8 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brillant93 Posted February 4, 2018 Share #22435 Posted February 4, 2018 8 hours ago, aemoreira81 said: There are only four CNG depots...West Farms, College Point, Jackie Gleason, and Spring Creek. The N means CNG-powered articulated buses. That said, CNG or diesel, the B103 could use articulated buses. I don't think bus company has any XN60s on order. The only thing they have are XD60s when it becomes awarded but I don't believe they are going to spring creek for the B103. I don't think the depot is artic ready. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted February 4, 2018 Share #22436 Posted February 4, 2018 So, the new XD40's Jamaica got aren't trackable on Bustime? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion6025 Posted February 4, 2018 Share #22437 Posted February 4, 2018 20 minutes ago, Q43LTD said: So, the new XD40's Jamaica got aren't trackable on Bustime? 7484 is trackable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted February 4, 2018 Share #22438 Posted February 4, 2018 37 minutes ago, Q43LTD said: So, the new XD40's Jamaica got aren't trackable on Bustime? It’s still a shocker to me that Jamaica is getting XD40’s considering that they were suppose to be all Nova LFS. But I guess it makes sense from a maintenance standpoint since most of the Queens depots have New Flyers parts already. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brillant93 Posted February 4, 2018 Share #22439 Posted February 4, 2018 I thought the Jamaica Depot was supposed to be rebuilt this year. Wasn’t it apart of the capital plan to redo it? If so I don’t know why they’re getting new buses because if construction happens this year where would they store all those buses? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted February 4, 2018 Share #22440 Posted February 4, 2018 13 hours ago, aemoreira81 said: If the Brooklyn DDSO is ever closed, that property could be partially repurposed as a barracks, and it would be better located with respect to the airports and SBS (with SUNY Maritime as a satellite). There's been talk in the past to close down the Brooklyn DDSO. However, that's no dice. If (city and state) can't find housing for that population than Brooklyn is off limits for the barracks. What I've noticed as of recently is increased enforcement on the Belt Parkway provided by Highway 2 (Flatlands division). Bronx is more suitable for barracks. Maritime is easy access to the Throggs Neck Bridge. As for SBS enforcement. Jurisdiction should be for TBTA and State police undercover to blend with crowd. Have cops posted on major intersections and inspect tickets, hold buses for about 10 mins. I was just recently in SFO and they do this alot. Plus, you have the ability to pay for your fare via debit and credit cards by going through the backdoor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemoreira81 Posted February 4, 2018 Share #22441 Posted February 4, 2018 2 hours ago, NewFlyer 230 said: It’s still a shocker to me that Jamaica is getting XD40’s considering that they were suppose to be all Nova LFS. But I guess it makes sense from a maintenance standpoint since most of the Queens depots have New Flyers parts already. The idea is now to get the remaining RTS buses retired...as well as knock out the first hybrids. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted February 4, 2018 Share #22442 Posted February 4, 2018 27 minutes ago, aemoreira81 said: The idea is now to get the remaining RTS buses retired...as well as knock out the first hybrids. Only guess: Hybrids to Stengel, Brooklyn (except Ulmer Park) or Manhattan. RTS to Brooklyn than retirement. 3 hours ago, NewFlyer 230 said: It’s still a shocker to me that Jamaica is getting XD40’s considering that they were suppose to be all Nova LFS. But I guess it makes sense from a maintenance standpoint since most of the Queens depots have New Flyers parts already. Now I'm starting to see why for maintenance reasons Brooklyn/Queens*/Manhattan is New Flyer while Manhattan*Bronx and Staten Island is NOVA. Will it mean that Jamaica, Stengel, MJQ will both be New Flyer and NOVA in the near future? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TofuRails Posted February 4, 2018 Share #22443 Posted February 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Future ENY OP said: Only guess: Hybrids to Stengel, Brooklyn (except Ulmer Park) or Manhattan. RTS to Brooklyn than retirement. Now I'm starting to see why for maintenance reasons Brooklyn/Queens*/Manhattan is New Flyer while Manhattan*Bronx and Staten Island is NOVA. Will it mean that Jamaica, Stengel, MJQ will both be New Flyer and NOVA in the near future? Stengel will only take 2009-2010 hybrids because there depot is either that or the 2015 New Flyers. I'm hoping to see Nova LFS at Stengel because it feels much more comfortable than the New Flyers. My guess is that since Jamaica took the New Flyers, Stengel would get a piece of the Nova LFS batch. I want Nova assignments already LOL. Going back to your question, Im pretty certain Jamaica, Stengel and MJQ will become New Flyer and Nova but only time will tell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemoreira81 Posted February 4, 2018 Share #22444 Posted February 4, 2018 18 minutes ago, Future ENY OP said: Only guess: Hybrids to Stengel, Brooklyn (except Ulmer Park) or Manhattan. RTS to Brooklyn than retirement. Now I'm starting to see why for maintenance reasons Brooklyn/Queens*/Manhattan is New Flyer while Manhattan*Bronx and Staten Island is NOVA. Will it mean that Jamaica, Stengel, MJQ will both be New Flyer and NOVA in the near future? Actually, with the next orders of LFS rigids and the Cuomo XD40s, the first hybrids (without the gold signs) may be as good as gone. As for the fleet, I expect a mixed fleet solely because buses can't be built fast enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted February 4, 2018 Share #22445 Posted February 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Q43LTD said: So, the new XD40's Jamaica got aren't trackable on Bustime? 7484 is trackable. It's barely out because very few operators are trained on it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted February 5, 2018 Share #22446 Posted February 5, 2018 Hybrid 3590 is running around naked out there... seen it running down Flatlands Ave with no mta decals, no depot sticker, no I'D number etc, I only knew it was 3590 because I was on the second floor of an building and saw the number on the roof of the bus. Had some kind of paper in the windshield but I couldn't read what it said from where I was. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted February 5, 2018 Share #22447 Posted February 5, 2018 1 hour ago, trainfan22 said: Hybrid 3590 is running around naked out there... seen it running down Flatlands Ave with no mta decals, no depot sticker, no I'D number etc, I only knew it was 3590 because I was on the second floor of an building and saw the number on the roof of the bus. Had some kind of paper in the windshield but I couldn't read what it said from where I was. I could only think of one thing. Paint job. Was it heading towards Spring Creek? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted February 5, 2018 Share #22448 Posted February 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Future ENY OP said: I could only think of one thing. Paint job. Was it heading towards Spring Creek? It was going in the direction of SC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted February 6, 2018 Share #22449 Posted February 6, 2018 Oh thank heavens someone at the smartened up and installed sliding doors that slide OUTWARD on an LFS artic! I hope all the new LFS buses have these sliding doors going forward. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuyorican Posted February 6, 2018 Share #22450 Posted February 6, 2018 Why dosent the MTA start making the Q12 or Q13 do limited stops from flushing to Bell BLVD and also have a Q13 & Q12 make all local stops. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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