Grand Concourse Posted January 30, 2013 Share #4901 Posted January 30, 2013 Well, after like 4 - 4:30 or so, it becomes 20 minutes (that's why I said early PM rush, because that's too late to be midday IMO). Surprisingly, the bus wasn't that crowded. Just the few blocks before we hit the train, and then a lot of people got off and we had a seated load again. But I think a lot of it has to do with the crappy headways deterring ridership, rather than lack of demand. LOL. I just thought you were referring to SMH. Your mind's in the gutter I see. Not just me, if you asked teens about the SM initials, I wouldn't be surprised that's what they think of first. Maybe SiM, but I don't think there's a need to scrap the X for express. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted January 30, 2013 Share #4902 Posted January 30, 2013 To the members that hate RTS's, is there any reason you hate them other than their age? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted January 30, 2013 Share #4903 Posted January 30, 2013 And the part that they are dirty/'dented' (which can apply to both old and new buses). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted January 31, 2013 Share #4904 Posted January 31, 2013 To the members that hate RTS's, is there any reason you hate them other than their age? There are likely only a few people who have other reasons. Like I said, it's the North American culture of worshiping new things and assuming that the fact that they are new automatically makes them superior to other products. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciboii22 Posted January 31, 2013 Share #4905 Posted January 31, 2013 5074 at Ulmer Park from Quill it just arrived, so 4897 for 5074... I'm sorry but are you serious? The RTS's are still here because the bus itself has withstanded the test of time... They are one of the strongest and best buses ever bult! Nothing last forever though... When they retire, thier legacy will still stand! Ah I see... Thanks for confirming that! That's right!! Well a few from Flatbush have some problems like for example 9601 its OOS for the Wheelchair lift its been out since December it only went in service 2 or 3 times. It's out back facing inward to the gate, but all buses have problems but an RTS will always be my favorite!! I still miss them GMC's that were around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted January 31, 2013 Share #4906 Posted January 31, 2013 <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="ttcsubwayfan" data-cid="639009" data-time="1359584316"><p> Thanks!<br /> <br /> <br /> This represents the typical North American 'Newer is better' attitude, which I despise with every fibre of my being. The RTS is a decent bus and will continue to be.</p></blockquote> Well you know he is obsessed with the XD40's. I bet if he had it his way he would replace every old bus before 2004 with the XD40 and XD60. He should still be thankful that he has buses that can actually hold crowds rather than the LFS which appears a lot on every QV line. On the Q36,Q27, Q46,Q43 and Q88 I could see within a hour about 80% of the buses passing is an LFS and the other 20% maybe 1 or 2 RTS's or a Orion VII. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDTA Posted January 31, 2013 Share #4907 Posted January 31, 2013 <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="ttcsubwayfan" data-cid="639009" data-time="1359584316"><p>Thanks!<br /> <br /> <br /> This represents the typical North American 'Newer is better' attitude, which I despise with every fibre of my being. The RTS is a decent bus and will continue to be.</p></blockquote> Well you know he is obsessed with the XD40's. I bet if he had it his way he would replace every old bus before 2004 with the XD40 and XD60. He should still be thankful that he has buses that can actually hold crowds rather than the LFS which appears a lot on every QV line. On the Q36,Q27, Q46,Q43 and Q88 I could see within a hour about 80% of the buses passing is an LFS and the other 20% maybe 1 or 2 RTS's or a Orion VII. Funny, he just said he wants Orion V's. I didn't know O5's were made before '04, or even '00 for that matter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted January 31, 2013 Share #4908 Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) 5074 at Ulmer Park from Quill it just arrived, so 4897 for 5074... That's right!! Well a few from Flatbush have some problems like for example 9601 its OOS for the Wheelchair lift its been out since December it only went in service 2 or 3 times. It's out back facing inward to the gate, but all buses have problems but an RTS will always be my favorite!! I still miss them GMC's that were around. yeah the 9600s always had issues with the lift. 2 buses were taken oos when they were here at FB. It's an issue with the bus. That said, UP getting more 5000s will leave them with the youngest average RTS fleet age as their oldest is an upper 9300. If there wasn't a push for the b44sbs, I'd certainly would take that fleet group. Edited January 31, 2013 by Grand Concourse 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted January 31, 2013 Share #4909 Posted January 31, 2013 Funny, he just said he wants Orion V's. I didn't know O5's were made before '04, or even '00 for that matter. Some were, but none of the MTA's, sadly. I will agree with him, though, that O5 > RTS though. Just a personal preference of mine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted January 31, 2013 Share #4910 Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) I'm sorry but are you serious? The RTS's are still here because the bus itself has withstanded the test of time... They are one of the strongest and best buses ever bult! Nothing last forever though... When they retire, thier legacy will still stand! Ah I see... Thanks for confirming that! Well first of all, i just dont like the bus in general. Ok it can be the best bus and strongest bus or whatever. I just dont like them. I like Orion Vs and i can have those here until 2020. Thanks! This represents the typical North American 'Newer is better' attitude, which I despise with every fibre of my being. The RTS is a decent bus and will continue to be. Well yes i like newer buses, but i have my favorite old buses. I like Orion Vs and i think those are better than RTS. And there faster that RTS, and feel lighter than RTS. and more spacious. To the members that hate RTS's, is there any reason you hate them other than their age? Its not about the age, its about the bus itself...i like Orion Vs and those old C40LFs. And the part that they are dirty/'dented' (which can apply to both old and new buses). That is correct, and i never said anything about dents with old/new buses. I wouldnt want no bus to have dents or look dirty. There are likely only a few people who have other reasons. Like I said, it's the North American culture of worshiping new things and assuming that the fact that they are new automatically makes them superior to other products. Well, I like XD40s, and most of yall know that. But it doesnt mean nothing about that. The Orion Vs are old and those are pretty good, but for RTS in my opinion i dont like those...look. those 1998-1999 C40LFs, i loved those things and im madd they retired this early. Sadly they were CNGs, and couldnt be at other depots. 5074 at Ulmer Park from Quill it just arrived, so 4897 for 5074... That's right!! Well a few from Flatbush have some problems like for example 9601 its OOS for the Wheelchair lift its been out since December it only went in service 2 or 3 times. It's out back facing inward to the gate, but all buses have problems but an RTS will always be my favorite!! I still miss them GMC's that were around. Well thats just you, you can like your RTS, i like Orion Vs. <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="ttcsubwayfan" data-cid="639009" data-time="1359584316"><p>Thanks!<br /> <br /> <br /> This represents the typical North American 'Newer is better' attitude, which I despise with every fibre of my being. The RTS is a decent bus and will continue to be.</p></blockquote> Well you know he is obsessed with the XD40's. I bet if he had it his way he would replace every old bus before 2004 with the XD40 and XD60. He should still be thankful that he has buses that can actually hold crowds rather than the LFS which appears a lot on every QV line. On the Q36,Q27, Q46,Q43 and Q88 I could see within a hour about 80% of the buses passing is an LFS and the other 20% maybe 1 or 2 RTS's or a Orion VII. #SWERVE Well yes i like XD40s, but this doesnt have nothing to do with those BT&E buses or more replacing all those old buses. I love all the buses in the fleet except RTS, idk why. oh and those Orion VII OG CNGs. But that has nothing to do with RTS. I just said that i dont like the RTS and i would rather have Orion Vs over RTS nothing esle. Edited January 31, 2013 by XcelsiorBoii4888 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted January 31, 2013 Share #4911 Posted January 31, 2013 Funny, he just said he wants Orion V's. I didn't know O5's were made before '04, or even '00 for that matter. NYCT's weren't anyway. Still I find the Orion V and RTS 90% similar in all aspects. Hell, throw in the Flxible Metro. I'm not holding his statement against him, but it does seem null and void if it's only in regard to age. The majority of this *sigh* my generation seems to believe everything in society is disposable some way or another, whether it's cellular phones, other electronics, vehicles, almost anything. Notice I didn't say all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted January 31, 2013 Share #4912 Posted January 31, 2013 NYCT's weren't anyway. Still I find the Orion V and RTS 90% similar in all aspects. Hell, throw in the Flxible Metro. I'm not holding his statement against him, but it does seem null and void if it's only in regard to age. The majority of this *sigh* my generation seems to believe everything in society is disposable some way or another, whether it's cellular phones, other electronics, vehicles, almost anything. Notice I didn't say all. Why would it be age if i said i like Orion Vs and the OLD C40LFs? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted January 31, 2013 Share #4913 Posted January 31, 2013 Why would it be age if i said i like Orion Vs and the OLD C40LFs? That's all I needed to know. If you read the closing statement you'll see I didn't directly reference you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted January 31, 2013 Share #4914 Posted January 31, 2013 ...although 1306 actually never saw passenger service, that one was always a training bus Nah, that bus saw a decent amount of service on the M1 in October/November of 2010 after most have the ops had been trained already. Got a few shots of it running that route myself, and I think a few others caught it too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciboii22 Posted January 31, 2013 Share #4915 Posted January 31, 2013 Well first of all, i just dont like the bus in general. Ok it can be the best bus and strongest bus or whatever. I just dont like them. I like Orion Vs and i can have those here until 2020. Well yes i like newer buses, but i have my favorite old buses. I like Orion Vs and i think those are better than RTS. And there faster that RTS, and feel lighter than RTS. and more spacious. Its not about the age, its about the bus itself...i like Orion Vs and those old C40LFs. That is correct, and i never said anything about dents with old/new buses. I wouldnt want no bus to have dents or look dirty. Well, I like XD40s, and most of yall know that. But it doesnt mean nothing about that. The Orion Vs are old and those are pretty good, but for RTS in my opinion i dont like those...look. those 1998-1999 C40LFs, i loved those things and im madd they retired this early. Sadly they were CNGs, and couldnt be at other depots. Well thats just you, you can like your RTS, i like Orion Vs. #SWERVE Well yes i like XD40s, but this doesnt have nothing to do with those BT&E buses or more replacing all those old buses. I love all the buses in the fleet except RTS, idk why. oh and those Orion VII OG CNGs. But that has nothing to do with RTS. I just said that i dont like the RTS and i would rather have Orion Vs over RTS nothing esle. Yeah and I like Orion V's too, that's no problem. Idk if you know but 6252 went on the B6 for a day when they had Orion V's running around in Coney Island for the storm. It did a trip to Rockaway Parkway Station, I didn't care to snap pictures. They also had 4 sitting in the depot too, 2 on the lift and 2 in the body shop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted January 31, 2013 Share #4916 Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) Yeah and I like Orion V's too, that's no problem. Idk if you know but 6252 went on the B6 for a day when they had Orion V's running around in Coney Island for the storm. It did a trip to Rockaway Parkway Station, I didn't care to snap pictures. They also had 4 sitting in the depot too, 2 on the lift and 2 in the body shop. Wow i would love to see an Orion V run on the Ulmer Park lines...listening to that Allison B400R screaming down 86st! oohh and also, the tuesday after the storm...there were Orion Vs running along the B74 Edited January 31, 2013 by XcelsiorBoii4888 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted January 31, 2013 Share #4917 Posted January 31, 2013 Rode with my Yukon B/O friend, then caught 2738 on the X1 and last but not least 5128 on the B44 Limited. Acela Express, have you driven 5128 before? I think it's a pretty good bus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciboii22 Posted January 31, 2013 Share #4918 Posted January 31, 2013 <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="XcelsiorBoii4888" data-cid="639115" data-time="1359595796"><p> Wow i would love to see an Orion V run on the Ulmer Park lines...listening to that Allison B400R screaming down 86st!<br /> <br /> oohh and also, the tuesday after the storm...there were Orion Vs running along the B74</p></blockquote> I know & not all of the transmissions are loud & you probably won't even hear it scream down 86th street with all that damn noise goin on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted January 31, 2013 Share #4919 Posted January 31, 2013 Somebody already has posted pics of it. http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/39342-brooklynb44-lfs-artics-eny-xcelsiors121-124/ aiight, cool.... saw 5830 yesterday and I think a 582x (still with an MJQ sticker) today. Coming back home this evening, didn't see any artic B44's - just an RTS at the nostrand/church av stop & an RTS behind an NG at new york/church... (decided to take the subway going & coming today.... tomorrow, it's back to taking the express.... ) Well, after like 4 - 4:30 or so, it becomes 20 minutes (that's why I said early PM rush, because that's too late to be midday IMO). Surprisingly, the bus wasn't that crowded. Just the few blocks before we hit the train, and then a lot of people got off and we had a seated load again. But I think a lot of it has to do with the crappy headways deterring ridership, rather than lack of demand. ...that, and the jitneys (or w/e you wanna call em) that run along 8th av to chinatown & flushing... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted January 31, 2013 Share #4920 Posted January 31, 2013 The 3 times I saw them it was in the morning/early afternoon. It is going to be hit or miss. I was lucky to catch one on camera when I did. I wasn't actively looking for it when passing thru. As for the q35, 9851? Was running here. Also got 517? On the q35. After this post sandy fr closure, I don't want to go back to normal, lol. Keep the hyshit off the q35. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted January 31, 2013 Share #4921 Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) Just saw, a few minutes ago, on the news that a bus in corona queens was on fire (in the daytime). I only saw the end of the piece, but anyone know what happened? Edited January 31, 2013 by Grand Concourse 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted January 31, 2013 Share #4922 Posted January 31, 2013 Am I the only one that peeped this kid saying #swerve...and using hashtags? This ain't Twitter... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted January 31, 2013 Share #4923 Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) Lol, I just ignored and moved on. #HAAAAAAAAAAN [couldn't help myself] -- So what do you call it when an op revs up in neutral and then puts it in drive with gas still on? I think of it as like dropping the clutch, where you start revving and then you let the clutch out and you jump forward, but I don't know what you call it with an automatic tranny... Edited January 31, 2013 by MHV9218 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted January 31, 2013 Share #4924 Posted January 31, 2013 Lol, I just ignored and moved on. #HAAAAAAAAAAN [couldn't help myself] -- So what do you call it when an op revs up in neutral and then puts it in drive with gas still on? I think of it as like dropping the clutch, where you start revving and then you let the clutch out and you jump forward, but I don't know what you call it with an automatic tranny... I'm not sure if there is an actual term for it. I'd just refer to it as dropping the gear as that's all that is really happening (dropping into 1st). I'd also like to add that I've witnessed some operators just pull the parking brake and accelerate then jolt the bus. Most common however is keeping one foot on both pedals and applying miniscule pressure to the accelerator. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted January 31, 2013 Share #4925 Posted January 31, 2013 Lol, I just ignored and moved on. #HAAAAAAAAAAN [couldn't help myself] -- So what do you call it when an op revs up in neutral and then puts it in drive with gas still on? I think of it as like dropping the clutch, where you start revving and then you let the clutch out and you jump forward, but I don't know what you call it with an automatic tranny... 1) Same... I just ignored it. 2) A good way to blow your transmission if you do it on a regular basis..... lol But the term for that is neutral dropping.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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