Kingsbridgeviewer382 Posted August 8 Share #39026 Posted August 8 28 minutes ago, Iron Valiant said: And of course, someone reports it in the scrap thread lol I still don't get why some people here still do that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted August 8 Share #39027 Posted August 8 10 hours ago, TyBusLover1 said: @QM1to6Ave @7-express So it seems that BusTime has bought back the passenger count & the traffic light system is no where to be seen. Go figure! Either they took my complaint email VERY seriously lol, or maybe they were just beta testing it. I wouldn't be shocked if it reappeared suddenly again. I know @Via Garibaldi 8 had previously been in touch with the BusTime team, but who knows if that team even still exists 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted August 9 Share #39028 Posted August 9 @TyBusLover1 and @7-express, believe it or not, I actually got the following response from the MTA today from my email about the passenger count disappearing. I wonder how many other complaints they got--I find it hard to believe they actually changed it back just because of my one little email! Thank you for using MTA Bus Time. We piloted the color-coded system in Bus Time, which can be more meaningful to less frequent bus riders, in place of providing specific passenger counts. We heard your feedback, and have restored the passenger counts. We are looking at how to present this information in a way that is helpful for all our customers. We take the concerns of our customers very seriously and thank you again for taking the time to contact us. Ben D. MTA Customer Experience 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNextGen2009 Posted August 10 Share #39029 Posted August 10 One thing that's got me thinking is that, judging that the MTA is going forward with the Local, Limited, and Rush stuff, how are they going to tell the routes apart? Are bus stops going to color code the routes? Maybe have the destination signs change color to that appropriate service (which I know is pretty much not possible)? I really do wonder how this is all going to fare with passengers once this thing is implemented. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted August 10 Share #39030 Posted August 10 (edited) On 8/8/2024 at 6:27 PM, QM1to6Ave said: Go figure! Either they took my complaint email VERY seriously lol, or maybe they were just beta testing it. I wouldn't be shocked if it reappeared suddenly again. I know @Via Garibaldi 8 had previously been in touch with the BusTime team, but who knows if that team even still exists A lot of people in the express bus commuting groups were pissed (mine and the Staten Island ones) about the change and I had everyone in those groups file formal complaints demanding that they change it back since I had heard from Customer Service that they were piloting the change. That's basically what happened. They received a ton of complaints and backtracked. When there is an uproar in the groups about service issues, I try to get those commuters to direct their issues at the and not just complain on social media. It's been successful more times than not. Surprisingly, a lot of people also received personal responses, something else riders have complained about. They DO follow a large number of the commuter groups (I won't go into details, but there are a lot of personnel in them), and sometimes I would "imagine" they even have meetings on things that transpire in them. A few of the bigwigs have retired, but I've been in meetings previously with the folks at the very top. How long all of this lasts... Who knows, but it's about time the riders have some say in the service they're paying for. I forgot that the SI Advance is in the groups. I should've reached out to one of the reporters I've spoken with before that has interviewed me, but they did a story on this, so yes, as I said, the received a ton of complaints about it, which I encouraged express bus riders to do. https://www.silive.com/news/2024/08/mta-restores-express-bus-seat-counts-on-mobile-app-heres-what-you-should-know.html Edited August 10 by Via Garibaldi 8 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted August 10 Share #39031 Posted August 10 (edited) I wonder if Gun Hill is keeping those 2 LFS that isn't in the blue wrap (8356 and 8357). They can swap those two for either Kingsbridge's blue units but, that's my guess. Edited August 10 by Calvin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-express Posted August 10 Share #39032 Posted August 10 17 hours ago, QM1to6Ave said: @TyBusLover1 and @7-express, believe it or not, I actually got the following response from the MTA today from my email about the passenger count disappearing. I wonder how many other complaints they got--I find it hard to believe they actually changed it back just because of my one little email! Thank you for using MTA Bus Time. We piloted the color-coded system in Bus Time, which can be more meaningful to less frequent bus riders, in place of providing specific passenger counts. We heard your feedback, and have restored the passenger counts. We are looking at how to present this information in a way that is helpful for all our customers. We take the concerns of our customers very seriously and thank you again for taking the time to contact us. Ben D. MTA Customer Experience Great that they gave you a real response rather than canned garbage. At least they listened to the feedback quickly. They could just have a traffic light AND passenger count to give the best of both worlds so they could appeal to the casual user and the power user/frequent commuters. But that would make too much sense right? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xD4nn Posted August 10 Share #39033 Posted August 10 (edited) 6 hours ago, Calvin said: I wonder if Gun Hill is keeping those 2 LFS that isn't in the blue wrap (8356 and 8357). They can swap those two for either Kingsbridge's blue units but, that's my guess. The only reason why I think GH is keeping those 2 units is that the swap between GH and JA isn't permanent long-term. Edited August 10 by xD4nn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridgeviewer382 Posted August 10 Share #39034 Posted August 10 56 minutes ago, xD4nn said: The only reason why I think GH is keeping those 2 units is that the swap between GH and JA isn't permanent long-term. They kept those because they didn't get the 2 Jamaica Xcelsiors that were taken out of commision at the time (In which 7507 was later repaired and sent to Quill). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xD4nn Posted August 10 Share #39035 Posted August 10 1 hour ago, Kingsbridgeviewer382 said: They kept those because they didn't get the 2 Jamaica Xcelsiors that were taken out of commision at the time (In which 7507 was later repaired and sent to Quill). They could have easily swapped for 7550-7551 at that time and a little while later but they chose not to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted August 11 Share #39036 Posted August 11 8 hours ago, 7-express said: Great that they gave you a real response rather than canned garbage. At least they listened to the feedback quickly. They could just have a traffic light AND passenger count to give the best of both worlds so they could appeal to the casual user and the power user/frequent commuters. But that would make too much sense right? HA! That's exactly what I suggested in my feedback email...I said that they should use TrainTime as a model for how to give both a color and a number. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted August 11 Share #39037 Posted August 11 18 hours ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said: A lot of people in the express bus commuting groups were pissed (mine and the Staten Island ones) about the change and I had everyone in those groups file formal complaints demanding that they change it back since I had heard from Customer Service that they were piloting the change. That's basically what happened. They received a ton of complaints and backtracked. When there is an uproar in the groups about service issues, I try to get those commuters to direct their issues at the and not just complain on social media. It's been successful more times than not. Surprisingly, a lot of people also received personal responses, something else riders have complained about. They DO follow a large number of the commuter groups (I won't go into details, but there are a lot of personnel in them), and sometimes I would "imagine" they even have meetings on things that transpire in them. A few of the bigwigs have retired, but I've been in meetings previously with the folks at the very top. How long all of this lasts... Who knows, but it's about time the riders have some say in the service they're paying for. I forgot that the SI Advance is in the groups. I should've reached out to one of the reporters I've spoken with before that has interviewed me, but they did a story on this, so yes, as I said, the received a ton of complaints about it, which I encouraged express bus riders to do. https://www.silive.com/news/2024/08/mta-restores-express-bus-seat-counts-on-mobile-app-heres-what-you-should-know.html Excellent! I figured my lone email couldn't have been the tipping point. Glad that they gave so many individual responses 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopybutt123 Posted August 11 Share #39038 Posted August 11 When the 1994-96 Orion V’s was ordered specifically from this batch of Orion’s for Castleton. 611-680, was 611-630 assigned to express or was it 631-680? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridgeviewer382 Posted August 11 Share #39039 Posted August 11 36 minutes ago, poopybutt123 said: When the 1994-96 Orion V’s was ordered specifically from this batch of Orion’s for Castleton. 611-680, was 611-630 assigned to express or was it 631-680? 611-30 were the ones in the suburban configuration. 631-80 were local transit units. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopybutt123 Posted August 11 Share #39040 Posted August 11 3 minutes ago, Kingsbridgeviewer382 said: 611-30 were the ones in the suburban configuration. 631-80 were local transit units. Thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted August 12 Share #39041 Posted August 12 Can someone help me understand something? Why can NYCT transfer buses to MTA Bus, but MTA bus can't transfer buses to NYCT? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridgeviewer382 Posted August 12 Share #39042 Posted August 12 9 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: Can someone help me understand something? Why can NYCT transfer buses to MTA Bus, but MTA bus can't transfer buses to NYCT? I believe it has something to do with MTA Bus units being bought using federal funds compared to how NYCT units are bought with state funds or with their own money. It locks them to MTA Bus for at least 10 years before the can be moved freely (which rarely happens. The few times I can remember NYCT getting old Bus Co units were the O5 CNGs in '09 and the 3000 series MCIs used for a bit at Charleston when they first got the SIM23/24) I assume I got the info wrong, so anyone feel free to step in and correct any of the points made here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 via Mosholu Posted August 15 Share #39043 Posted August 15 On 8/9/2024 at 8:07 PM, TheNextGen2009 said: One thing that's got me thinking is that, judging that the MTA is going forward with the Local, Limited, and Rush stuff, how are they going to tell the routes apart? Are bus stops going to color code the routes? Maybe have the destination signs change color to that appropriate service (which I know is pretty much not possible)? I really do wonder how this is all going to fare with passengers once this thing is implemented. That was the same thing I was thinking, man! The Hanover and Luminator Spectrum as well as the Axion (if I'm not mistaken regarding the Axion) have the ability to display different colors on the sign, so it's likely they'd go with that setup when the revamp within the North Shore Bus Company (basically Jamaica, Queens Village, Flushing) as well as New York Bus Service, Jamaica Buses, Queens Surface, Triboro Coach, and Green Bus Lines as well as Command and Brooklyn and Queens Transit (basically East New York, Grand Avenue, Fifth Avenue - present day Jackie Gleason, Fresh Pond, Flatbush and Ulmer Park) commences. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted August 15 Share #39044 Posted August 15 Man seeing a blue and gold XD40 on the Q25 and older Nova on the Q20B today is wild. What is going on right now with the fleet assignments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted August 16 Share #39045 Posted August 16 3 hours ago, IAlam said: Man seeing a blue and gold XD40 on the Q25 and older Nova on the Q20B today is wild. What is going on right now with the fleet assignments. College Point depot is experiencing a shortage right now due to several buses being out of service. It’s a nice change seeing blue and yellow buses on CP routes, those C40LF are old now. CS recently gave JA a conehead LFS for an old LFS in return. What I’m most curious to know is what will replace those NG’s. I thought those buses would retire after the shuttle because I thought the LFS’s were meant to wipe out all the NG’s. CS lost some XD40s to Brooklyn as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted August 16 Share #39046 Posted August 16 9 hours ago, NewFlyer 230 said: College Point depot is experiencing a shortage right now due to several buses being out of service. It’s a nice change seeing blue and yellow buses on CP routes, those C40LF are old now. CS recently gave JA a conehead LFS for an old LFS in return. What I’m most curious to know is what will replace those NG’s. I thought those buses would retire after the shuttle because I thought the LFS’s were meant to wipe out all the NG’s. CS lost some XD40s to Brooklyn as well. From what I've heard, the Next Gens from New York City Bus are staying put, not the ones that are transferred to MTA Bus. Maybe the next new future bus order they'll replace the Next Gens or if subject to change, the current XDE-40s that are in delivery may do a one on one replacement if Grand Av is willing to move the older XD-40s to Fresh Pond, Flatbush or Casey Stengel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xD4nn Posted August 16 Share #39047 Posted August 16 10 hours ago, NewFlyer 230 said: College Point depot is experiencing a shortage right now due to several buses being out of service. It’s a nice change seeing blue and yellow buses on CP routes, those C40LF are old now. CS recently gave JA a conehead LFS for an old LFS in return. What I’m most curious to know is what will replace those NG’s. I thought those buses would retire after the shuttle because I thought the LFS’s were meant to wipe out all the NG’s. CS lost some XD40s to Brooklyn as well. I looked back at historical rosters and concluded that Stengel doesn’t receive enough LFS to fully retire the NGs. They still need the NGs unless a replacement is sent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSMG106 Posted August 18 Share #39048 Posted August 18 (edited) On 8/16/2024 at 6:15 AM, Calvin said: From what I've heard, the Next Gens from New York City Bus are staying put, not the ones that are transferred to MTA Bus. Maybe the next new future bus order they'll replace the Next Gens or if subject to change, the current XDE-40s that are in delivery may do a one on one replacement if Grand Av is willing to move the older XD-40s to Fresh Pond, Flatbush or Casey Stengel. It's disappointing that the Bus Co. NGs are being retired instead of NYCT. I know that Quill, ENY, and Grand are getting their XE40s, but are currently 61 NGs at NYCT. Grand should at least send some of their XD40s to Flatbush or Fresh Pond to retire their NGs. ENY may not send their buses due to them having a shortage, and Quill may also not send their buses away due to a shortage as well. Edited August 18 by RSMG106 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xD4nn Posted August 18 Share #39049 Posted August 18 7 minutes ago, RSMG106 said: It's disappointing that the Bus Co. NGs are being retired instead of NYCT. I know that Quill, ENY, and Grand are getting their XE40s, but are currently 61 NGs at NYCT. Grand should at least send some of their XD40s to Flatbush or Fresh Pond to retire their NGs. ENY may not send their buses due to them having a shortage, and Quill may also not send their buses away due to a shortage as well. Stengel also needs replacements for the Next Gens 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSMG106 Posted August 18 Share #39050 Posted August 18 4 minutes ago, xD4nn said: Stengel also needs replacements for the Next Gens Yes, that as well. They can get either their XD40s that they sent, or get LFSes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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