Lil 57 Posted November 26, 2018 Share #25201 Posted November 26, 2018 5 hours ago, Cait Sith said: Technically, even if the seating was reversed, it'd roughly be the same amount of space regardless of how you flip the arrangement of the seats. The only difference is that it would look different when you are boarding, but the space itself is pretty much the same. The XD40s and the NGs practically have the same front space, but the NGs have far better rear space overall. Riding 4229, which has reversed seating the rear looks far more spacious. However the last row of seats are still double seats. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted November 26, 2018 Share #25202 Posted November 26, 2018 I heard you can spec the Xcelsiors to have either a fiberglass frame or stainless steel frame...is this true? Does the newer Xcelsiors have a stainless steel frame? I heard the DDOT Xcelsiors have this time of frame as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog14 Posted November 26, 2018 Share #25203 Posted November 26, 2018 2 hours ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said: I heard you can spec the Xcelsiors to have either a fiberglass frame or stainless steel frame...is this true? Does the newer Xcelsiors have a stainless steel frame? I heard the DDOT Xcelsiors have this time of frame as well. Knowing TA and fuel costs they may have wen't with fiberglass. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted November 26, 2018 Share #25204 Posted November 26, 2018 There was speculation that previous orders were fiberglass and that 7484 and up have stainless steel, but I don't know if that's actually accurate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted November 26, 2018 Share #25205 Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said: I heard you can spec the Xcelsiors to have either a fiberglass frame or stainless steel frame...is this true? Does the newer Xcelsiors have a stainless steel frame? I heard the DDOT Xcelsiors have this time of frame as well. 4 hours ago, Around the Horn said: There was speculation that previous orders were fiberglass and that 7484 and up have stainless steel, but I don't know if that's actually accurate. There's no such thing as a fiberglass frame. They do have fiberglass parts on the bodies, however. Xcelsiors originally came in carbon Steel frames. Stainless steel frames were introduced I believe in 2011-2012. Edited November 26, 2018 by Cait Sith 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted November 26, 2018 Share #25206 Posted November 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, Cait Sith said: There's no such thing as a fiberglass frame. They do have fiberglass parts on the bodies, however. Xcelsiors originally came in carbon Steel frames. Stainless steel frames were introduced I believe in 2011-2012. Oh so yeah that's it, carbon steel frames. I thought Xcelsiors came out in 2011...there's nothing earlier than that in service around the world. Also, I thought it was 2014-2015 the stainless steel frames were introduced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted November 26, 2018 Share #25207 Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said: Oh so yeah that's it, carbon steel frames. I thought Xcelsiors came out in 2011...there's nothing earlier than that in service around the world. Also, I thought it was 2014-2015 the stainless steel frames were introduced. The Xcelsior technically came out in 2008.....CT Transit was one of their first customers for the model in 2009, and got 2010 model Xcelsiors in service. Edited November 26, 2018 by Cait Sith 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted November 30, 2018 Share #25208 Posted November 30, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 8:25 PM, Via Garibaldi 8 said: It should've gotten it for two reasons. The boarding process at numerous stops was SLOW and PAINFUL. Far too long... Second... Rampant fare beating... If you actually paid the fare on that bus you were in the minority. I support it for that reason alone. All of these people just blatantly walking on past the fare box like it was the norm. Name the stops please and I’ll tell you if it’s ok or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted November 30, 2018 Share #25209 Posted November 30, 2018 For one, depending on the SBS Route you ride on, the fare machines on the SBS routes count on the boxes. So where does the Fare Evader plays a part? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted November 30, 2018 Share #25210 Posted November 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, FLX9304 said: Name the stops please and I’ll tell you if it’s ok or not. If what's ok or not? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted November 30, 2018 Share #25211 Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, FLX9304 said: For one, depending on the SBS Route you ride on, the fare machines on the SBS routes count on the boxes. So where does the Fare Evader plays a part? When they don't buy a ticket, which is most notable in the Bronx and Brooklyn. It happens more often than you think. Some people just ask for a ticket when someone leaves the bus and they get one. Edited November 30, 2018 by MysteriousBtrain 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted November 30, 2018 Share #25212 Posted November 30, 2018 1 minute ago, MysteriousBtrain said: When they don't buy a ticket, which is most notable in the Bronx and Brooklyn. It happens more often than you think. Come people just ask for a ticket when someone leaves the bus and they get one. Another way is finding a valid ticket on the street, which is like the third part of the fare evader. Back then before the Metrocard days, I used to find valid blue and orange transfers and used them on the bus for final trips. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted November 30, 2018 Share #25213 Posted November 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, MysteriousBtrain said: When they don't buy a ticket, which is most notable in the Bronx and Brooklyn. It happens more often than you think. Some people just ask for a ticket when someone leaves the bus and they get one. Especially in the Bronx. Good God..... The Bx41 was infamous for that. The times I would ride it and get my ticket, some douchebag would ask me for my ticket. I'd just look at them like they're crazy. I haven't used the Bx41 in forever since I haven't had a need to nor have I tried the new Bx6 yet, but it would be interesting to see how farebeating is on that line now because the people that would pay versus the fare beaters was staggering. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brillant93 Posted November 30, 2018 Share #25214 Posted November 30, 2018 People do it on the B41 all the time. Some drivers literally call them out if they get on the back. Like what are you spending your money on if you know you need transit to get through the city? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog14 Posted November 30, 2018 Share #25215 Posted November 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said: Especially in the Bronx. Good God..... The Bx41 was infamous for that. The times I would ride it and get my ticket, some douchebag would ask me for my ticket. I'd just look at them like they're crazy. I haven't used the Bx41 in forever since I haven't had a need to nor have I tried the new Bx6 yet, but it would be interesting to see how farebeating is on that line now because the people that would pay versus the fare beaters was staggering. The Bx6 SBS probably scathes off some farebeaters who are too broke heaven forbid they are caught but I doubt many people care and hop on without a ticket anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted November 30, 2018 Share #25216 Posted November 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Jdog14 said: The Bx6 SBS probably scathes off some farebeaters who are too broke heaven forbid they are caught but I doubt many people care and hop on without a ticket anyway. That's the way the Bx41 was. You knew when the Eagle Team was busting people because suddenly, everyone and I mean EVERYONE bought a ticket. It's like they knew what a Metrocard was again overnight. I used to chuckle to myself when I saw that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted December 1, 2018 Share #25217 Posted December 1, 2018 This week I accomplished a personal milestone, I rode the B44 to and from the Knapp Street terminal so I officially rode every single part of every route out of Flatbush depot😄 This was my home depot as well as my favorite depot in the system, and the GOAT depot 😁 Crazy I just now rode that depot entire network as I lived in Flatbush service area for a good portion of my life. It's also the only depot where I been on every route in their entirety. I rode the Veterans Ave B41 branch from the first stop for the first time a couple weeks ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted December 1, 2018 Share #25218 Posted December 1, 2018 13 hours ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said: That's the way the Bx41 was. You knew when the Eagle Team was busting people because suddenly, everyone and I mean EVERYONE bought a ticket. It's like they knew what a Metrocard was again overnight. I used to chuckle to myself when I saw that. On the Bx12, you can tell when the Eagle Team is out when it's anytime after 7am, the bus isn't crowded, the buses aren't bunched up, and if the B/O's are all hauling ass. I think everyone gets tipped off when the Eagle Team is out and about, from the fare beaters to the drivers 😄 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted December 2, 2018 Share #25219 Posted December 2, 2018 Random Thought: I've been noticing as of late the whole Brooklyn Division has been getting exterior roof ads, However, Manhattan and express bus divisions have the good wraps and exterior roof ads. Hopefully the gods are reading this I'd like to see more driver side wraps for the Brooklyn Division in 2019 along with more exterior roof ads and some 30x240 ads. Haven't seen any exterior roof ads on the Cuomo buses YET. Give it a few months and MJQ will have their first XD40 driver side wraps. WMATA (Metro) has been wrapping their XD40's for quite a few years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog14 Posted December 2, 2018 Share #25220 Posted December 2, 2018 39 minutes ago, Future ENY OP said: Random Thought: I've been noticing as of late the whole Brooklyn Division has been getting exterior roof ads, However, Manhattan and express bus divisions have the good wraps and exterior roof ads. Hopefully the gods are reading this I'd like to see more driver side wraps for the Brooklyn Division in 2019 along with more exterior roof ads and some 30x240 ads. Haven't seen any exterior roof ads on the Cuomo buses YET. Give it a few months and MJQ will have their first XD40 driver side wraps. WMATA (Metro) has been wrapping their XD40's for quite a few years. They may have a problem with the speakers being in the way (though they could cut around it) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted December 2, 2018 Share #25221 Posted December 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jdog14 said: They may have a problem with the speakers being in the way (though they could cut around it) Hopefully, that doesn't pose a big issue. Because as we know MJQ can be very elaborate of putting such ads on their buses with any configuration of a bus. I frequently travel to DC, and they have the same XD/XDE40's we have and WMATA bus maintainers are able to work around those speakers. Some have full length wraps and 30x240 billboards. Queens Surface, Command and Liberty Bus lines had full length bus wraps in '02/03/04. Once bus brought them. All bets off around after 2006 when they got their express bus orders. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted December 2, 2018 Share #25222 Posted December 2, 2018 There's zero chance a Cuomo bus gets a roof ad (unless they choose to put it on the shrouds on the hybrids) There just isn't enough room for it considering the placement of the numbers, the speaker, the I love NY logo and the NYCB logo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted December 2, 2018 Share #25223 Posted December 2, 2018 35 minutes ago, Around the Horn said: There's zero chance a Cuomo bus gets a roof ad (unless they choose to put it on the shrouds on the hybrids) There just isn't enough room for it considering the placement of the numbers, the speaker, the I love NY logo and the NYCB logo I'm in partial agreement with you @Around the Horn. However: (answer on the bottom) All I can say is that MJQ finds ways to place ads on their buses. I think the driver side of the bus is better than the passenger side on the newer XD40's for placing. Roof ads and driver side wraps do excellent with the Hybrids. The current roof ad campaign citywide is the Mount Sinai Health System and it seems to be working with current XD40's we have in Brooklyn, LFSA40's in Manhattan, Queens, BX and SI and hybrids citywide. However, Philly, and DC which both have similar XD/XDE40 models and they are able to put placement of roof ads and driver side wraps on their buses. These days the difficulty of placing an ad on a bus gets harder and harder and maybe that's why all the good ads go on express buses and Manhattan Division buses b/c of the tourists. However, when you see a campaign for Showtime, HBO, and NBC, CBS All Access, Epix. Manhattan seems to have the matching roof ad along with the base ad. However, you see the same ad in Brooklyn (except Ulmer Park express buses) there is only the base ad and not the roof. (Hope I'm explaining this correctly) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted December 2, 2018 Share #25224 Posted December 2, 2018 Okay so I’m in the Q7 rn and the timetable says it’s to complete the entire trip in 28 minutes. Simply impossible. No matter how much the bus op floors it, he won’t make it to Euclid at 9:58, it’s 9:58 and we just turned onto Cross Bay Blvds. Goddamn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted December 2, 2018 Share #25225 Posted December 2, 2018 16 minutes ago, danielhg121 said: Okay so I’m in the Q7 rn and the timetable says it’s to complete the entire trip in 28 minutes. Simply impossible. No matter how much the bus op floors it, he won’t make it to Euclid at 9:58, it’s 9:58 and we just turned onto Cross Bay Blvds. Goddamn. bus schedules are not accurate at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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