SUBWAY - Random Thoughts Topic

[Vulturious]

10 hours ago, slantfan4281 said:

Not sure, but they mentioned in the video that they were looking at a a major reorganization of lines through the junction that was supposed to save times for all trips

"Major reorganization of lines through the junction," yeah that right there sounds like they're going with the Red 8 plan. Lazy, but to be fair, if the MTA were to go ahead with reconstruction, they'd need to cut service to both New lots and Flatbush for a good 5 years given how slow the MTA has been with a lot of things along with other factors involved that slowed the process.

[slantfan4281]

1 hour ago, Vulturious said:

"Major reorganization of lines through the junction," yeah that right there sounds like they're going with the Red 8 plan. Lazy, but to be fair, if the MTA were to go ahead with reconstruction, they'd need to cut service to both New lots and Flatbush for a good 5 years given how slow the MTA has been with a lot of things along with other factors involved that slowed the process.

Yeah, hearing that in a meeting along with the 20 year assessment makes it sound like it's being considered. I wonder if they'll use the  designation instead though since the  is green on the R62/As and a  via 7th Av program already exists on the R142/As.

[TrainGamingKing9928]

3 hours ago, Vulturious said:

Lazy, but to be fair, if the MTA were to go ahead with reconstruction, they'd need to cut service to both New lots and Flatbush for a good 5 years given how slow the MTA has been with a lot of things along with other factors involved that slowed the process.

I personally think they should just add new switches between Franklin Avenue and Nostrand Avenue to allow for Lexington Avenue trains to serve the local stations east of there without conflicting with 7th Avenue trains, while all 7th Avenue trains run via Nostrand Avenue. This would be a lot easier than an extensive reconstruction that would take years to complete and require cutting service on both the New Lots and Nostrand Avenue lines for however long it takes.

[Lex]

3 hours ago, Vulturious said:

"Major reorganization of lines through the junction," yeah that right there sounds like they're going with the Red 8 plan. Lazy, but to be fair, if the MTA were to go ahead with reconstruction, they'd need to cut service to both New lots and Flatbush for a good 5 years given how slow the MTA has been with a lot of things along with other factors involved that slowed the process.

 

1 hour ago, slantfan4281 said:

Yeah, hearing that in a meeting along with the 20 year assessment makes it sound like it's being considered. I wonder if they'll use the  designation instead though since the  is green on the R62/As and a  via 7th Av program already exists on the R142/As.

If they do go this route, I can definitely see them trying to use it to gut service to/from Lenox Terminal outside of the 's current Brooklyn hours (used as reference to basically say that  service would be limited to a specific duration on weekdays, much like the  and ).

[Lex]

2 minutes ago, TrainGamingKing9928 said:

I personally think they should just add new switches between Franklin Avenue and Nostrand Avenue to allow for Lexington Avenue trains to serve the local stations east of there without conflicting with 7th Avenue trains, while all 7th Avenue trains run via Nostrand Avenue. This would be a lot easier than an extensive reconstruction that would take years to complete and require cutting service on both the New Lots and Nostrand Avenue lines for however long it takes.

Great. Not only would that eat into the 's usefulness (see my previous post for what I anticipate coming from trying, albeit with a possible bump in  service from every 8 minutes to every 6 instead), but I can only hope you don't also support feeding Utica Avenue into Eastern Parkway, or you'd be doing a major disservice to those on that alignment.

[LGA Link N Train]

16 hours ago, JustTheSIR said:

Were there always switches in the Steinway tubes?

Yes. Underneath 1st Avenue in Manhattan actually.

10 hours ago, slantfan4281 said:

Yeah, hearing that in a meeting along with the 20 year assessment makes it sound like it's being considered. I wonder if they'll use the  designation instead though since the  is green on the R62/As and a  via 7th Av program already exists on the R142/As.

The  and  Designations shown on the R-62/62A’s wouldn’t matter anymore when they can just reprogram the NTT’s and cause the former are on their way out the door anyways

[slantfan4281]

4 hours ago, LGA Link N Train said:

Yes. Underneath 1st Avenue in Manhattan actually.

The  and  Designations shown on the R-62/62A’s wouldn’t matter anymore when they can just reprogram the NTT’s and cause the former are on their way out the door anyways

Well it depends on where the new service runs from. If it's from Wakefield it'll use NTTs but if it runs from 148th it'll probably use Livonia yard and thus have to use R62s. 

12 hours ago, Lex said:

 

If they do go this route, I can definitely see them trying to use it to gut service to/from Lenox Terminal outside of the 's current Brooklyn hours (used as reference to basically say that  service would be limited to a specific duration on weekdays, much like the  and ).

If they run it from Wakefield they'll probably have to cut  service a good amount, but if they run it from 148th I guess it would just be sending some  trips to Flatbush and some to New Lots while the  is unchanged 

[CenSin]

I’ve only got a vague recollection of what this plan is, but isn’t it just deinterlining Brooklyn and then assigning new bullets to routes that’ll be doing new combinations of terminals?

[slantfan4281]

3 hours ago, CenSin said:

I’ve only got a vague recollection of what this plan is, but isn’t it just deinterlining Brooklyn and then assigning new bullets to routes that’ll be doing new combinations of terminals?

The 20 year needs assessment suggested the  being unchanged, the  to Flatbush, the  unchanged, the  being rerouted to New Lots (skipping Nostrand Av and Kingston Av), and a new  line on 7th Av to New Lots (not sure what the northern terminal would be).

I think it would make more sense to terminate the  at Utica and run the  to New Lots since the  seemed to be a weekday only service and sending the  to New Lots wouldn't require sending the  to Brooklyn over the weekend. They probably don't want to add new diamond crossovers between Rogers Junction and Nostrand Av, but if they did, they wouldn't have to run the  at all and could just have the  replace the  past Franklin as it already does overnight.

[Maxwell179]

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[LGA Link N Train]

2 hours ago, slantfan4281 said:

and a new  line on 7th Av to New Lots (not sure what the northern terminal would be).

Wakefield-241st Street is the Northern Terminal with New Lots being the Southern Terminal 

12 hours ago, slantfan4281 said:

Well it depends on where the new service runs from. If it's from Wakefield it'll use NTTs but if it runs from 148th it'll probably use Livonia yard and thus have to use R62s. 

148th doesn’t matter because it doesn’t have a maintenance/shop facility. Livonia and 240th on the other hand need an upgrade and the reason I’m saying R-62’s wouldn’t matter is because they’re about to retire anyways.

[Lex]

2 hours ago, slantfan4281 said:

The 20 year needs assessment suggested the  being unchanged, the  to Flatbush, the  unchanged, the  being rerouted to New Lots (skipping Nostrand Av and Kingston Av), and a new  line on 7th Av to New Lots (not sure what the northern terminal would be).

I think it would make more sense to terminate the  at Utica and run the  to New Lots since the  seemed to be a weekday only service and sending the  to New Lots wouldn't require sending the  to Brooklyn over the weekend. They probably don't want to add new diamond crossovers between Rogers Junction and Nostrand Av, but if they did, they wouldn't have to run the  at all and could just have the  replace the  past Franklin as it already does overnight.

That proposed 8 is an expansion of the to New Lots Avenue (assuming Utica Avenue isn't built). I'm not convinced it would be limited to weekdays, either, particularly if Utica Avenue is built. After all, not only would it be serving the Bronx (something the  doesn't do) with easy access to storage and especially maintenance facilities, but it would nominally obviate the need to dedicate daytime Lexington Avenue resources to the local stations. Chances are, they'd have this run either to Nereid Avenue or 241 Street (likely the latter with  put-ins/drop-outs at Nereid Avenue or Gun Hill Road).

[darkstar8983]

During  train GOs, the  gets extended to 96 St-2 Av (or elsewhere past Essex St towards midtown) and shuttle buses run in a loop between Bedford Av, Marcy Av, Hewes St, and Lorimer St.

 

why doesn’t the loop shuttle bus also run when the  doesn’t run between Hewes St / Marcy Av and Manhattan? Instead, the buses cross the bridge (which due to traffic conditions can be quite unreliable). I understand providing connecting service between Essex St and Brooklyn, but it seems the connection is only provided for the  closure but for the  closure people going between 1 Av and Brooklyn have to take the  and then switch to the loop bus.

[Kamen Rider]

Math, partly. The L has much higher ridership 

[darkstar8983]

34 minutes ago, Kamen Rider said:

Math, partly. The L has much higher ridership 

Ohh okay. Was just thinking from a logistic standpoint to have people on the  shuttled to the  train at Lorimer St to go into Manhattan and switch to the lower Manhattan trains at 8 Av, 6 Av, or Union Square, but that’s just my two cents

[Vulturious]

https://abc7ny.com/post/subway-crime-nyc-mta-worker-arrested-charged-filing-false-police-report-after-subway-slashing-claims/15140439/

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MTA worker slashed himself, lied about being attacked on F train in Queens, police say

An MTA worker slashed himself and lied to police when he claimed he'd been attacked on the subway, authorities said Saturday.

Henry Herring, 54, is charged with filing a false police report.

Herring, who works as a cleaner, told police that he was attacked and slashed by a homeless person on southbound F train at the Jamaica-179th Street early Wednesday.

He claimed he raised his hands to protect his face when he was attacked, ending up with slashed hands. He also had slash wounds to the chest.

A police investigation revealed that Herring slashed himself and made up the story about the attack.

The MTA said it takes these sorts of claims very seriously.

"Assaults on MTA employees are a real issue and the NYPD has made real progress identifying and capturing perpetrators. What's alleged in this case is beyond disappointing, pulling resources from investigations of actual crimes, while undermining confidence in safety of the transit system," Tim Minton, MTA Communications Director, told Eyewitness News.

The MTA said Herring is being suspended without pay, "pending review for appropriate further action."

 

[Kamen Rider]

Lying about a self-inflicted IOD...

That's a Paddlin...

https://youtu.be/sKiLfH3DVGc?si=1R1tma-oLuR83h67

[Rainer]

11 hours ago, Kamen Rider said:

Lying about a self-inflicted IOD...

That's a Paddlin...

https://youtu.be/sKiLfH3DVGc?si=1R1tma-oLuR83h67

WOW that's crazy ,and to do it to yourself.  What is wrong with people today ,guess he wanted some kind of vacation with pay. Now he'll lose his job .

[Rainer]

23 hours ago, darkstar8983 said:

Ohh okay. Was just thinking from a logistic standpoint to have people on the  shuttled to the  train at Lorimer St to go into Manhattan and switch to the lower Manhattan trains at 8 Av, 6 Av, or Union Square, but that’s just my two cents

When I was new an a extra  { had to call in } I hated it when I had to work the token booths on the J and L ,especially the J. Nobody paid their fare ,actually

worst today, back in the day cops would ticket fare beaters/turnstile jumpers or take them in if they had a record.

[TrainGamingKing9928]

On 7/31/2024 at 12:18 AM, Kamen Rider said:

if the tower looks exactly the same on Monday as it did today, I am seriously calling that report into question…

It's been a little over a week now. Does the tower still look the same?

[Kamen Rider]

Yep, for the most part. If they are doing this, they’re taking their time.

[QM1to6Ave]

On 7/31/2024 at 12:18 AM, Kamen Rider said:

So the ERA newsletter Calvin shared suggested they’re demolishing the old Marcy Avenue tower…

 

if they are doing it… they’re moving at an absolute snail’s pace.

so far, to my “passes that thing multiple times a day” eye, all they’ve done is take the door off the bottom floor.

i am off the next three days (bereavement leave, my grandmother passed on Saturday), this weekend, there is another GO cutting service back to Hewes… like last weekend…

if the tower looks exactly the same on Monday as it did today, I am seriously calling that report into question…

I'm sorry for your loss!

[Rainer]

I use to work with a subway station supervisor out of the 7th ave station on the F line in Brooklyn ,there was a smileys pizza on the corner if I remember correctly. 

He was a tall guy red hair , Robert ,very nice Polish guy, I always wondered if he retired or if he is still working there as he was a workaholic. There were 2 woman out of that office also .I left the MTA after a few years and he stayed on. He was a good guy, we did lunch together ,always thought he worked too hard. He taught me the ropes, but I moved on and started a new job somewhere else due to the MTA screwing me over and now retired myself .

I always wondered what happened to him .

[randomnewyorker23]

tbf why are they trying to deinterline the IRT lines in Brooklyn, when Broadway/DeKalb needs the most attention. 

[CenSin]

18 minutes ago, randomnewyorker23 said:

why are they trying to deinterline the IRT lines in Brooklyn, when Broadway/DeKalb needs the most attention

The junction north of DeKalb Avenue get much less traffic than the one east of Franklin Avenue. Trains don’t even cross other trains there; they merge.