Bosco Posted October 31, 2017 Share #16951 Posted October 31, 2017 3 hours ago, Lance said: It was probably cheaper when it was designed back in 2005. That's one of the drawbacks to large orders like the R160 or the upcoming R211, the inability to change the components mid-order as the technology becomes cheaper or goes in a different direction than it was when the order was created. Plus, the FIND was one of the first spec changes. The R160s originally were supposed to have the same strip maps as the R142/R143. Back in the early 2000s, screen technology wasn't as cheap as it is now. Prices only fell through the floor a few years ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted October 31, 2017 Share #16952 Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) The On the Go Kiosks at Kew Gardens were turned on today. Edited October 31, 2017 by Union Tpke 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted October 31, 2017 Share #16953 Posted October 31, 2017 Earlier I was riding a northbound past Fordham and I saw a also heading north on the middle track (no it wasn’t an extended Burnside drop; it was 6pm and the Burnside drops start after 6:30) The had more riders on it by far. Thats why all the experiments have failed: too many people use the local stops to make it worthwhile. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTK246 Posted November 1, 2017 Share #16954 Posted November 1, 2017 38 minutes ago, paulrivera said: Earlier I was riding a northbound past Fordham and I saw a also heading north on the middle track (no it wasn’t an extended Burnside drop; it was 6pm and the Burnside drops start after 6:30) The had more riders on it by far. Thats why all the experiments have failed: too many people use the local stops to make it worthwhile. Whatever happened to the express pilot? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestrictOnTheHanger Posted November 1, 2017 Share #16955 Posted November 1, 2017 On 10/29/2017 at 1:58 PM, N6 Limited said: On the downtown express track at W4th street the T/O punches a button, but there are no switches until Canal St, where they punch again, so whats the point? I'm curious about that too. Is it part of the W4 interlocking modernization? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted November 1, 2017 Share #16956 Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) You can actually skip that punch and just do Canal. Not supposed to, but not essential either. Happens a fair amount, as T/Os often overrun that box a little bit. I think it's the opposite of modernization, just a relic. Edited November 1, 2017 by MHV9218 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco Posted November 1, 2017 Share #16957 Posted November 1, 2017 15 hours ago, CTK246 said: Whatever happened to the express pilot? 1. The local stations that the would bypass, especially around Prospect Park, have relatively high ridership. 2. The MTA is waiting until the Culver Rehab is done to even consider it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted November 1, 2017 Share #16958 Posted November 1, 2017 20 hours ago, Union Tpke said: The On the Go Kiosks at Kew Gardens were turned on today. What's that? 42 minutes ago, Bosco said: 1. The local stations that the would bypass, especially around Prospect Park, have relatively high ridership. 2. The MTA is waiting until the Culver Rehab is done to even consider it. This is why Bergen Lower level should re-open to provide a connection before the crosstown diverge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdonisDimaggio Posted November 1, 2017 Share #16959 Posted November 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, N6 Limited said: What's that? That electronic screen where you can check the subway map, delayed trains, etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted November 1, 2017 Share #16960 Posted November 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, AdonisDimaggio said: That electronic screen where you can check the subway map, delayed trains, etc. Ohh, I'm so used to them being in Manhattan stations I didn't know there was an official name. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted November 1, 2017 Share #16961 Posted November 1, 2017 I have a random Question, depending on the branch line, is it possible to move capacity over from a trunk line into a branch. Take the Rockaway Beach Branch and QBL as an example 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted November 1, 2017 Share #16962 Posted November 1, 2017 21 hours ago, Union Tpke said: The On the Go Kiosks at Kew Gardens were turned on today. I saw Kiosks at my home station at Rego Park 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR503 Posted November 1, 2017 Share #16963 Posted November 1, 2017 45 minutes ago, LGA Link N train said: I have a random Question, depending on the branch line, is it possible to move capacity over from a trunk line into a branch. Take the Rockaway Beach Branch and QBL as an example I don’t think I understand what you’re asking. Are you asking if you can add trains onto a branch from a main? If so, yes, of course you can — if you couldn’t there would be no branching in our subway. If you’re asking if that is politically feasible, it depends/is complicated. In the RBB’s case, I’d think it’d be possible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted November 1, 2017 Share #16964 Posted November 1, 2017 59 minutes ago, RR503 said: I don’t think I understand what you’re asking. Are you asking if you can add trains onto a branch from a main? If so, yes, of course you can — if you couldn’t there would be no branching in our subway. If you’re asking if that is politically feasible, it depends/is complicated. In the RBB’s case, I’d think it’d be possible. Ok thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted November 1, 2017 Share #16965 Posted November 1, 2017 1 hour ago, RR503 said: I don’t think I understand what you’re asking. Are you asking if you can add trains onto a branch from a main? If so, yes, of course you can — if you couldn’t there would be no branching in our subway. If you’re asking if that is politically feasible, it depends/is complicated. In the RBB’s case, I’d think it’d be possible. It would be Ideal, from the standpoint that conga lines would be reduced if one of the locals branches off to Far Rockaway. I wonder if there was track work on the QBL and all service was local if they could terminate the local trains at Howard Beach or something so that the and could run through unimpeded. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted November 1, 2017 Share #16966 Posted November 1, 2017 So last night the was running express, while the was terminating at 34th St and so they had trains waiting for the to clear before being able to proceed. Why don't they just switch the to the local track at 14th street until 34th street so that it's not held up? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR503 Posted November 1, 2017 Share #16967 Posted November 1, 2017 13 minutes ago, N6 Limited said: So last night the was running express, while the was terminating at 34th St and so they had trains waiting for the to clear before being able to proceed. Why don't they just switch the to the local track at 14th street until 34th street so that it's not held up? As circular as this sounds, because the was running express. It usually goes local 96-Chambers but there was obviously some GO that had them going exp. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR503 Posted November 1, 2017 Share #16968 Posted November 1, 2017 29 minutes ago, N6 Limited said: It would be Ideal, from the standpoint that conga lines would be reduced if one of the locals branches off to Far Rockaway. I wonder if there was track work on the QBL and all service was local if they could terminate the local trains at Howard Beach or something so that the and could run through unimpeded. What would happen to 67 ave? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted November 1, 2017 Share #16969 Posted November 1, 2017 1 hour ago, RR503 said: As circular as this sounds, because the was running express. It usually goes local 96-Chambers but there was obviously some GO that had them going exp. Interesting. The was still running local so it would have been nice if they could've switched tracks for a few stations for customer service purposes. 1 hour ago, RR503 said: What would happen to 67 ave? It would get served by moving and trains, as opposed to a steady stream of chronically delayed trains because of terminating service one station away while thru trains are running on the same track. ----------------------------------------------- Speaking of which, if train traffic and track work are causing (synergistic) delays, why don't they increase headway and just tell people that service has been reduced to mitigate congestion and heavy delays in track work areas? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR503 Posted November 1, 2017 Share #16970 Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) Interesting about the — idk then. Maybe someone else will comment. ...doink! I did not read your post fully. My apologies. Yes, then the could be sent to Howard beach, the only issue being that it wouldn’t allow trains to head directly to Jamaica yard once terminated, and in terms of maintaining service, is farther away so would lengthen headways. Given that weekend/late night service is already atrocious, I think it’d be better to rationalize flagging rules, no? The fact trains have to crawl at 10 for about a quarter mile on all adjacent tracks seems arcane... there must be some sort of happy medium between what we have and what existed before. Edited November 1, 2017 by RR503 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted November 1, 2017 Share #16971 Posted November 1, 2017 16 minutes ago, RR503 said: Interesting about the — idk then. Maybe someone else will comment. ...doink! I did not read your post fully. My apologies. Yes, then the could be sent to Howard beach, the only issue being that it wouldn’t allow trains to head directly to Jamaica yard once terminated, and in terms of maintaining service, is farther away so would lengthen headways. Given that weekend/late night service is already atrocious, I think it’d be better to rationalize flagging rules, no? The fact trains have to crawl at 10 for about a quarter mile on all adjacent tracks seems arcane... there must be some sort of happy medium between what we have and what existed before. Yes Flagging rules need to be addressed. I think they started putting up barriers between tracks but they barely use them. Also they need to extend service to 179th, or terminate them at Queens Plaza when all trains are using the same track. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdonisDimaggio Posted November 1, 2017 Share #16972 Posted November 1, 2017 Terminating at Queens Plaza might be a good idea. It does not seem like Forest Hills needs the extra trains. This will save you trains that you can put on the for 96 St. Otherwise you can have them ready for the when the shutdown starts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR503 Posted November 1, 2017 Share #16973 Posted November 1, 2017 Terminating the there normally is a terrible idea. You'd clog the interlocking with trains snaking across 2 lanes of traffic to access the middle layup track. This is why the was cut back -- too damn inefficient. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted November 2, 2017 Share #16974 Posted November 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, RR503 said: Terminating the there normally is a terrible idea. You'd clog the interlocking with trains snaking across 2 lanes of traffic to access the middle layup track. This is why the was cut back -- too damn inefficient. Normally, it's not a good idea, but during QBL track work it's great. trains pull in on the local track at Queens plaza, it only has to cross the express track to get to the middle layup track. This should not be a problem on weekends where all Jamaica bound service uses one track. 31 minutes ago, AdonisDimaggio said: Terminating at Queens Plaza might be a good idea. It does not seem like Forest Hills needs the extra trains. This will save you trains that you can put on the for 96 St. Otherwise you can have them ready for the when the shutdown starts. Forest Hills does not need the trains when the and run local. Both services run frequently enough that they provide sufficient service by themselves when both are running local. No need to add the to clog up the tracks at Forest Hills while terminating. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted November 2, 2017 Share #16975 Posted November 2, 2017 Here's how I would handle service: Normal between Forest Hills and Bay Ridge. Rush hours, add more than one train via Second Av. Add enough service so it can be marked on the map as an "extension" like the and . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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