R10 2952 Posted September 2, 2021 Share #26401 Posted September 2, 2021 On 9/1/2021 at 2:06 AM, Trainmaster5 said: BTW, the writer of the article is as dumb as a box of rocks when it comes to mass transit issues in the metropolitan area. reading his articles for the last couple of months shows me that he's either a mouthpiece for the agencies or he's truly unqualified. Just my opinion. YMMV. Carry on. If you're talking about Clayton Guse, you hit the nail on the head. How that idiot got the job is beyond me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted September 2, 2021 Share #26402 Posted September 2, 2021 On another note, all this flooding after the MTA supposedly "made improvements" after Sandy... SMH. Lessons have not been learned. Back to square one I guess? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted September 2, 2021 Share #26403 Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) There was an R62 on the today, didn't ride the subway today, saw it on YouTube. I wonder what other unusual car assignments was caused by the the storm. Was tempted to go into the city but I wasn't sure how messed up the system really was, hopefully things are back to normal by tomorrow. Edited September 2, 2021 by trainfan22 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted September 2, 2021 Share #26404 Posted September 2, 2021 2 hours ago, R10 2952 said: On another note, all this flooding after the MTA supposedly "made improvements" after Sandy... SMH. Lessons have not been learned. Back to square one I guess? Weren't those changes only to South Ferry and maybe a couple of other stations? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted September 3, 2021 Share #26405 Posted September 3, 2021 Is there an R62 on the ??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted September 3, 2021 Share #26406 Posted September 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Lawrence St said: Is there an R62 on the ??? Yes, but a short time during the Morning hour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted September 3, 2021 Share #26407 Posted September 3, 2021 Not a good idea to have had a Mets Game and the US Open occurring simultaneously, while the is the only train available for a good chunk of Queens residents. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted September 3, 2021 Share #26408 Posted September 3, 2021 7 hours ago, R10 2952 said: On another note, all this flooding after the MTA supposedly "made improvements" after Sandy... SMH. Lessons have not been learned. Back to square one I guess? Note that the flooding occurred in areas of the system that weren't updated after Sandy. The resiliency projects worked. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtatransit Posted September 3, 2021 Share #26409 Posted September 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said: Not a good idea to have had a Mets Game and the US Open occurring simultaneously, while the is the only train available for a good chunk of Queens residents. Surprisingly the crowding wasn't too bad today. This is considering the fact that and is also not running into Queens. Crowding was similar to a regular pre-COVID rush hour on the The buses however was an absolute disaster. There is not enough Q60 and Q53 buses, especially after 8PM and there was crowding on that. More surprising is the lack of general knowledge some NYer have regarding their subway system. People were asking directions to 34 Street, South Ferry, etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted September 3, 2021 Share #26410 Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mtatransit said: Surprisingly the crowding wasn't too bad today. This is considering the fact that and is also not running into Queens. Crowding was similar to a regular pre-COVID rush hour on the The buses however was an absolute disaster. There is not enough Q60 and Q53 buses, especially after 8PM and there was crowding on that. More surprising is the lack of general knowledge some NYer have regarding their subway system. People were asking directions to 34 Street, South Ferry, etc. The crowding was pretty bad at 10-11PM when I took the . Every Manhattan-bound train was slammed, and the super expresses they ran too were also slammed. The eastbound ridership was like more spread out on the LIRR or the buses (express and local). Edited September 3, 2021 by BM5 via Woodhaven 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtatransit Posted September 3, 2021 Share #26411 Posted September 3, 2021 48 minutes ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said: The crowding was pretty bad at 10-11PM when I took the . Every Manhattan-bound train was slammed, and the super expresses they ran too were also slammed. The eastbound ridership was like more spread out on the LIRR or the buses (express and local). Must be the Mets/US Open initial exit surge. During rush hours MTA were still running service, which was surprising, as most people probably wanted the local stops The crowding that is peak loads normally present at Queensboro Plaza was moved to the Manhattan stations due to the lack of the . In fact crowds decreased at Queensboro today It seems like a fraction of the passengers who normally took the QBL was on the today. Not sure about the ridership on the LIRR or express buses, but the buses are extremely packed on the Q53 and Q60. I know a sizable amount of people who took the train to Flushing for the bus to Jamaica today Luckily this happened in a pandemic, because if this was a normal rush hour it would be absolute chaos. Queens can not afford any kind of subway failure, failure of any one line will cause every other line to be completely overloaded and every nearby bus overloaded as well. I remember the day when the derailed at 65th Street. It was absolute madness of both people not getting off at 74th Street and an entire platform filled of passengers trying to get on. Those same passenger would then try to transfer to the at Queensboro Plaza, which caused a big mess there as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted September 3, 2021 Share #26412 Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) Bells went off on the and platforms. 5 minutes later and 3 more rings of the bell, I see a conductor show up so I make a run for that train the conductor is going to since there weren't any conductors in either train. The reliance on humans doing a specific job on an automatable vehicle… some say it's a feature (there should never be a train in operation without an accountable human) and others say it's a bug (liability to efficiency and timeliness). I think we can achieve both: make the human jobs non-specific/flexible. Do we really need someone whose job is only to be a conductor or token booth? Edited September 3, 2021 by CenSin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted September 3, 2021 Share #26413 Posted September 3, 2021 17 hours ago, Lex said: Weren't those changes only to South Ferry and maybe a couple of other stations? 12 hours ago, Around the Horn said: Note that the flooding occurred in areas of the system that weren't updated after Sandy. The resiliency projects worked. In that case my emphasis would be more on the fact that they spent all the years after Sandy doing a whole song-and-dance about floodproofing the system and whatnot, but only did a fraction of what needed to be done towards that end. The optics are such that they've just lost a great deal of credibility, as far as capital improvements are concerned. Maybe things will slowly get better now that Cumo's gone, but the point still remains- they had nine years to prevent a repeat of 2012. Where did they lose their time? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted September 3, 2021 Share #26414 Posted September 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, R10 2952 said: In that case my emphasis would be more on the fact that they spent all the years after Sandy doing a whole song-and-dance about floodproofing the system and whatnot, but only did a fraction of what needed to be done towards that end. The optics are such that they've just lost a great deal of credibility, as far as capital improvements are concerned. Maybe things will slowly get better now that Cumo's gone, but the point still remains- they had nine years to prevent a repeat of 2012. Where did they lose their time? It's not about time, it's about money. Cuomo followed in the great trend of NY Governor's shrinking their contribution and having the MTA take out debt in the name of "fiscal responsibility." There is, for example, no plan to get to 100% accessibility in the system, or even 90%, and that is something the MTA is legally mandated to do. The Capital Plan for the current five years is still unfunded. On the one hand, things do cost more in MTA land, but on the other hand, a lot of the times we are penny pinching on an entity that even in its decrepit state has over $1T of asset value to manage. It turns out if you don't pay for upkeep things don't get kept up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted September 3, 2021 Share #26415 Posted September 3, 2021 2 hours ago, bobtehpanda said: It's not about time, it's about money. Cuomo followed in the great trend of NY Governor's shrinking their contribution and having the MTA take out debt in the name of "fiscal responsibility." There is, for example, no plan to get to 100% accessibility in the system, or even 90%, and that is something the MTA is legally mandated to do. The Capital Plan for the current five years is still unfunded. On the one hand, things do cost more in MTA land, but on the other hand, a lot of the times we are penny pinching on an entity that even in its decrepit state has over $1T of asset value to manage. It turns out if you don't pay for upkeep things don't get kept up. On the topic of accessibility im suprised the MTA was never forced into a consent decree regarding ADA and forced to say make atleast 50% ADA Stations by 9/4/ 2026 etc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted September 3, 2021 Share #26416 Posted September 3, 2021 3 hours ago, BreeddekalbL said: On the topic of accessibility im suprised the MTA was never forced into a consent decree regarding ADA and forced to say make atleast 50% ADA Stations by 9/4/ 2026 etc There's a class action lawsuit making its way through the works. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted September 4, 2021 Share #26417 Posted September 4, 2021 The lower Bronx portion of the is STILL out due to ida where's the rest of the system has been restored. Nostrand must be badly damaged as well as the been terminating at Bowling Green all day, and only limited service. Might need an emergency to Utica G.O this weekend so they can fully repair the Nostrand line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted September 4, 2021 Share #26418 Posted September 4, 2021 38 minutes ago, trainfan22 said: The lower Bronx portion of the is STILL out due to ida where's the rest of the system has been restored. Nostrand must be badly damaged as well as the been terminating at Bowling Green all day, and only limited service. Might need an emergency to Utica G.O this weekend so they can fully repair the Nostrand line. The and may have something to do with Newkirk Av. The walls on the platform collapsed on the "Do not enter or cross tracks" area, also, with the flood that happened there. However, may have fixed some of the damage there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted September 4, 2021 Share #26419 Posted September 4, 2021 I'm surprised the TA didn't use some R142s or whatever equipment from another line to supplement the line R62As stuck on the southern portion of the line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted September 4, 2021 Share #26420 Posted September 4, 2021 18 minutes ago, trainfan22 said: I'm surprised the TA didn't use some R142s or whatever equipment from another line to supplement the line R62As stuck on the southern portion of the line. I believe that they ran some and trains local to supplement the line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted September 4, 2021 Share #26421 Posted September 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Trainmaster5 said: I believe that they ran some and trains local to supplement the line. How are they turn the at 149th on the 4, relay? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted September 4, 2021 Share #26422 Posted September 4, 2021 service in Manhattan is a mess today. 20 minute waits and no rerouting of the via Lex Local to cover the gaps in service. Do they not have enough cars to run the or something? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted September 4, 2021 Share #26423 Posted September 4, 2021 24 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: service in Manhattan is a mess today. 20 minute waits and no rerouting of the via Lex Local to cover the gaps in service. Do they not have enough cars to run the or something? All the train cars are stuck in the Bronx. The only way to get extra cars are to use the R142s from the and but that only helps weekends 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted September 4, 2021 Share #26424 Posted September 4, 2021 The runs an 8 minute headway on weekends and theres a bunch of cars from the laid up on the middle track on the Jerome EL today. So they should have enough cars on the southern end to make service on weekends, weekdays is where things get dicey I'd imagine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted September 5, 2021 Share #26425 Posted September 5, 2021 Regular service may be back up after the day of Labor Day. Wednesday to be exact. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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