MysteriousBtrain Posted June 6, 2021 Share #26026 Posted June 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Jacob said: Lay up train thru a delay on 96th of some sorts, Guess I've gotten trolled here lmao. It's funny because I heard someone was camping for hrs at 96 St for the R142 and it never showed up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted June 6, 2021 Share #26027 Posted June 6, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, R32 3838 said: it was weird seeing the R42's and then R40M's go back to the Queens since the 1970's to retire there. Yeah, it always made more sense to me seeing them on Queens Boulevard as opposed to the Eastern Division, on account of the whole issue with door controls and the operating position in the 8-car trains. Never understood they just didn't use the R32/38s for the instead after GOH, for that reason alone. Edited June 6, 2021 by R10 2952 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted June 6, 2021 Share #26028 Posted June 6, 2021 9308 (museum car, now a bluebird) got tagged up by some tourist jabronis, by the looks of it. At least 9306 is untouched in the museum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaPr03 Posted June 7, 2021 Share #26029 Posted June 7, 2021 20 hours ago, MysteriousBtrain said: It's funny because I heard someone was camping for hrs at 96 St for the R142 and it never showed up. Looks like some people are gullible, sigh... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted June 7, 2021 Share #26030 Posted June 7, 2021 21 hours ago, MysteriousBtrain said: It's funny because I heard someone was camping for hrs at 96 St for the R142 and it never showed up. 1 hour ago, DaPr03 said: Looks like some people are gullible, sigh... LMAO in my day possible Redbird sightings on the is what folks were obsessed with. Either way, some people take this stuff way too seriously for their own (or anyone else's) good. On a side note, at least R142s have actually been documented as showing up in service on the periodically over the years. The Redbirds? Never seen any photos of them in regular service on the (1), so I'm almost positive it's a myth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted June 7, 2021 Share #26031 Posted June 7, 2021 Two observations: 1) The is such crap every morning now. I wait 15 minutes + every time I try to take it to work 2) W4 lower is getting the same new enamel signs (with wheelchair symbol) as W4 upper. They're done by a private contractor, so they're much nicer than the stuff the Sign Shop turns out. They've done the southbound side only so far, so you get to see both eras of signs (mid-1990s and 2021) across the tracks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted June 7, 2021 Share #26032 Posted June 7, 2021 The has always been crap. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted June 7, 2021 Share #26033 Posted June 7, 2021 1 hour ago, MHV9218 said: 1) The is such crap every morning now. I wait 15 minutes + every time I try to take it to work If youre talking about today in particular, the and are all having staffing issues at the moment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted June 7, 2021 Share #26034 Posted June 7, 2021 20 minutes ago, paulrivera said: If youre talking about today in particular, the and are all having staffing issues at the moment. Today, but every day. It's bizarre to me they didn't plan for this glut of retirements/sick days and think ahead with a new class, etc. They had 12 months to figure out what the system would look like on reopening and now they're caught with their pants down, daily. Feels like everything under that hack Feinberg is like this. Byford would never have allowed something as easily solved as staffing to ruin on-time performance, but here we are. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted June 7, 2021 Share #26035 Posted June 7, 2021 13 minutes ago, MHV9218 said: Today, but every day. It's bizarre to me they didn't plan for this glut of retirements/sick days and think ahead with a new class, etc. They had 12 months to figure out what the system would look like on reopening and now they're caught with their pants down, daily. Feels like everything under that hack Feinberg is like this. Byford would never have allowed something as easily solved as staffing to ruin on-time performance, but here we are. Actually, during Covid they were planning on layoffs and service cuts. They (NYCT in particular) only plan ahead when it comes to cuts and layoffs. When it comes to adding, it must be "cost neutral" meaning whatever does get added has to be taken away from someplace else. They've been this way before Byford, during Byford to an extent, and it'll continue after Feinberg and her successor's successor is gone, and so on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted June 7, 2021 Share #26036 Posted June 7, 2021 19 minutes ago, paulrivera said: Actually, during Covid they were planning on layoffs and service cuts. They (NYCT in particular) only plan ahead when it comes to cuts and layoffs. When it comes to adding, it must be "cost neutral" meaning whatever does get added has to be taken away from someplace else. They've been this way before Byford, during Byford to an extent, and it'll continue after Feinberg and her successor's successor is gone, and so on. Sure. My point is that they knew full service would return, they knew they were receiving the stimulus, and they knew they'd have fewer crews on hand. Why didn't they plan for this and the service impacts that have been the arbitrary result? It's not like we're running a modified pick right now with reduced but consistent frequencies; it's just random delays because they're missing trips. That's just bad planning. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted June 7, 2021 Share #26037 Posted June 7, 2021 1 minute ago, MHV9218 said: That's just bad planning. Bad planning? more like no plan at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brakethrow Posted June 7, 2021 Share #26038 Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) Friday afternoon my n/b train was stuck at Parkside for 20-30 mins due to fallen tree branches. Conductor announced that the t/o is working on removing them from the tracks. Not sure what the protocol is but If they're small enough to be removed by hand I can't imagine the t/o willingly sitting there until help arrives but then again based on what many have said here about management overplaying their power I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. Also, on occasion t/o's heading s/b at Brooklyn Bridge would head out the cab and go to the crew room. I wonder why. Edited June 7, 2021 by brakethrow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted June 7, 2021 Share #26039 Posted June 7, 2021 On 6/5/2021 at 11:45 PM, Jacob said: Probably not, They'll just stick to the as being local on QBL once CBTC is activated. But I wish if that could happen. If trains went back to QBL as additional service at weekends they'll just be a foamfest over QBL "G TRAINS BACK IN QBL (RARE) (GONE WRONG) (GONE SEXUAL) (WOKE!!!)" no they need to add the back, It sucks taking the on weekends. If not the , Have the run on weekends as well. The is complete garbage on weekends and I'm always happy when they have the go local. living in rego park for 2 years makes me miss living in Jamaica. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Posted June 7, 2021 Share #26040 Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, R32 3838 said: no they need to add the back, It sucks taking the on weekends. If not the , Have the run on weekends as well. The is complete garbage on weekends and I'm always happy when they have the go local. living in rego park for 2 years makes me miss living in Jamaica. The MTA won't make the run to Forest Hills on Weekends. Just might resemble back to the low ridership on the G at QBL back then. It's more accurate making the going to Forest Hills on weekends but I won't think the MTA will budge to do that smh. My possible way is to make either the or the local on weekends and make one train Express just how the Bway line used to operate before (and weekends) as the being express and the and being local. I mean if the MTA can make the go to QBL mainly on weekends I'm expecting 10 car R46s or R68/As on CIY or R160s (Jamaica R160 Loans btw) I probably won't think they'll due that cuz of CBTC lmao (edit) Edited June 7, 2021 by Jacob 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted June 7, 2021 Share #26041 Posted June 7, 2021 Just now, Jacob said: The MTA won't make the run to Forest Hills on Weekends. Just might resemble back to the low ridership on the G at QBL back then. It's more accurate making the going to Forest Hills on weekends but I won't think the MTA will budge to do that smh. My possible way is to make either the or the local on weekends and make one train Express just how the Bway line used to operate before (and weekends) as the being express and the and being local. I mean if the MTA can make the go to QBL mainly on weekends I'm expecting 10 car R46s or R68/As on CIY or R160s (Jamaica R160 Loans btw) dude that was over 10 years ago, all these neighborhoods along QBL grew as more people moved in. platforms be crowded when you have to wait 10-15 mins for an (R). And if the were to go back to running on QB on weekends, it'll go back to Jamaica and use R160's (or R211's if Jamaica gets them) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted June 7, 2021 Share #26042 Posted June 7, 2021 44 minutes ago, brakethrow said: Friday afternoon my n/b train was stuck at Parkside for 20-30 mins due to fallen tree branches. Conductor announced that the t/o is working on removing them from the tracks. Not sure what the protocol is but If they're small enough to be removed by hand I can't imagine the t/o willingly sitting there until help arrives but then again based on what many have said here about management overplaying their power I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. Also, on occasion t/o's heading s/b at Brooklyn Bridge would head out the cab and go to the crew room. I wonder why. Off the top of my head, from experience, drink of water or restroom time. Just a guess 😃. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted June 7, 2021 Share #26043 Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) @MHV9218@paulrivera Their whole layer of middle management is rotten to the core; even if Cuomo, Feinberg and all the empty suits from 2 Broadway disappeared tomorrow, you'd still have hundreds of managers like that Dyatlov guy from the HBO Chernobyl mini-series, lower down on the ladder and shitting on front-line employees while telling the top-level executives 'everything is fine'. Prendergast and Irick were perfect examples of this; on paper they looked good because they had risen through the ranks, been with the agency for a number of years in managerial capacities, but in reality they were mindless bean-counters who failed to see passengers as anything more than a statistic. With such a disinterest in the riding public (and their front-line employees, to be quite honest), they may as well have been faceless executives in some generic corporate conglomerate, as opposed to public-sector mass transit. Edited June 7, 2021 by R10 2952 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted June 7, 2021 Share #26044 Posted June 7, 2021 1 minute ago, R10 2952 said: @MHV9218@paulrivera Their whole layer of middle management is rotten to the core; even in Cuomo, Feinberg and all the empty suits from 2 Broadway disappeared tomorrow, you'd still have hundreds of managers lower down on the latter shitting on front-line employees I'm happy to see that someone with real-world experience in civil service or similar employment understands how things work. Transit, NYPD, Sanitation, FDNY all operate that way to some degree. Byford, Feinberg, Phil Eng, Catherine Rinaldi, are just the faces known to the public in the . Some may be more knowledgeable than others but they do not set policy. It used to fascinate me and my fellow retirees watching the press and some forum members praise Byford as if he was the Second Coming. His ideas were spot on but he didn't have the power to implement them by himself. The board itself, who aren't transportation experts, rely on a cadre of unknown "experts" to supply them with the ideas that are then made public. I met Prince Andrew's dad early in my career. Once in Westchester Yard and the second time at Avenue X Yard. Both times he got the grand tour but at Avenue X he and some of his entourage doubled back about 45 minutes later and he exited his limo and spoke to some of us hourlies and the Property Protection Agent on duty. He admitted that his knowledge of the system was non-existent and spent almost a half hour with us getting input on how things really worked in the field. I also had the pleasure of meeting Mr. David Gunn a few times many years ago and found him to be interested in the day to day workings of the subway system, especially the "new" R62 equipment and the Grand Central / Times Square Shuttle because he passed through the area quite frequently in his travels. I've pretty much figured that Prince Andrew's ideas, good or bad, are generated by the people you spoke of who remain blameless and undercover while the arrows are aimed at the Governor who is very public and an easy target. It wouldn't matter if he is re-elected ( sorry Wallyhorse) or not or whom is elected NYC Mayor or County Exec, because the real power is held by the underlings in the and most local governments. I think that VG8, among others, has figured out how things work. Just my opinion. Carry on. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted June 7, 2021 Share #26045 Posted June 7, 2021 23 hours ago, MHV9218 said: 9308 (museum car, now a bluebird) got tagged up by some tourist jabronis, by the looks of it. At least 9306 is untouched in the museum. Its been tagged for a hot minute that wasn't recent. Someone just showed off a photo now though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted June 7, 2021 Share #26046 Posted June 7, 2021 2 hours ago, R10 2952 said: Prendergast and Irick were perfect examples of this; on paper they looked good because they had risen through the ranks, been with the agency for a number of years in managerial capacities, but in reality they were mindless bean-counters who failed to see passengers as anything more than a statistic. With such a disinterest in the riding public (and their front-line employees, to be quite honest), they may as well have been faceless executives in some generic corporate conglomerate, as opposed to public-sector mass transit. Irick was really inept at DOB. All he really directed people under him to do was cut, short turn, and deadhead. Even on the RTS farewell trip, he was thinking about things that cost the agency money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted June 8, 2021 Share #26047 Posted June 8, 2021 21 hours ago, R10 2952 said: LMAO in my day possible Redbird sightings on the is what folks were obsessed with. Either way, some people take this stuff way too seriously for their own (or anyone else's) good. On a side note, at least R142s have actually been documented as showing up in service on the periodically over the years. The Redbirds? Never seen any photos of them in regular service on the (1), so I'm almost positive it's a myth. IDK if it ever happened post GOH but the cars that became the GOH redbirds have ran on the Not my photos credit goes to nycsubway.org. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted June 8, 2021 Share #26048 Posted June 8, 2021 9 hours ago, MHV9218 said: Sure. My point is that they knew full service would return, they knew they were receiving the stimulus, and they knew they'd have fewer crews on hand. Why didn't they plan for this and the service impacts that have been the arbitrary result? It's not like we're running a modified pick right now with reduced but consistent frequencies; it's just random delays because they're missing trips. That's just bad planning. Gosh, its almost like the hiring freeze that everyone said would be a bad idea turned out to be a bad idea... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted June 8, 2021 Share #26049 Posted June 8, 2021 This is the closest thing I found on Google to a modern day redbird on the . I can't verify it's authenticity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted June 8, 2021 Share #26050 Posted June 8, 2021 1 hour ago, paulrivera said: This is the closest thing I found on Google to a modern day redbird on the . I can't verify it's authenticity. That photo is real, it's an R17 on a fan trip IIRC. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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