VIP Posted May 20, 2020 Share #24076 Posted May 20, 2020 1 hour ago, darkstar8983 said: The and lines have this same pattern, with weekend service running more frequently than weekday service, likely to serve people who are not working from home and want to go out. The and however are running close to normal weekday service Frequencies as opposed to Saturday service like the rest of the system from Monday to Friday Interesting observation, meanwhile there’s a surplus of 130-140 crews sitting around or summoned to platform duties as the outside contractors sanitize the trains at the terminals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell179 Posted May 21, 2020 Share #24077 Posted May 21, 2020 how does the terminate at 59th St ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted May 21, 2020 Share #24078 Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Maxwell179 said: how does the terminate at 59th St ? It arrives at the station, but doesn't do a zone change (on the local track). The doors open and close but announces to riders that "This Train is out of customer service, going to storage". It's C.I Yard bound but, the train is checked before moving. Edited May 21, 2020 by Calvin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted May 21, 2020 Share #24079 Posted May 21, 2020 They really should add a program in the 160s for that... Every 59th Street bound train that I've seen uses either the Bay Ridge-95 St program or 36 Street programs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucey Posted May 21, 2020 Share #24080 Posted May 21, 2020 Probably deserves its own post, but given Coronavirus, PATH being a drain on Port Authority’s finances, and the impending bailouts, does it make sense to merge PATH into the NYC Subway? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted May 21, 2020 Share #24081 Posted May 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Deucey said: Probably deserves its own post, but given Coronavirus, PATH being a drain on Port Authority’s finances, and the impending bailouts, does it make sense to merge PATH into the NYC Subway? If NJ wants to adopt all them MTA taxes, go right ahead. Also the FRA is a massive weight around the neck for PATH. Don't know if MTA lawyers want to have that fight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucey Posted May 21, 2020 Share #24082 Posted May 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, bobtehpanda said: If NJ wants to adopt all them MTA taxes, go right ahead. Also the FRA is a massive weight around the neck for PATH. Don't know if MTA lawyers want to have that fight. They already have it for the railroads and the SI Railway, right? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted May 21, 2020 Share #24083 Posted May 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Deucey said: They already have it for the railroads and the SI Railway, right? The railroads aren't cheap to operate either, and I don't think the SIR is under the jurisdiction? PATH has an operating cost per passenger-mile triple that of NYC and other peers, and it's disturbing because PATH has very high ridership so you'd expect that number to be lower. https://www.nj.com/news/2015/01/whats_the_real_reason_the_port_authority_is_targeting_the_path.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68OnBroadway Posted May 21, 2020 Share #24084 Posted May 21, 2020 Is there a cost estimate for how much it would cost to try to link up SIR and PATH? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted May 21, 2020 Share #24085 Posted May 21, 2020 3 hours ago, R68OnBroadway said: Is there a cost estimate for how much it would cost to try to link up SIR and PATH? I assume all overground, and only allowing compatibility South/East of Newport Pavonia? Cause otherwise you'd have to fully replace the SIR fleet for shorter car, and tunneling you're talking $1-2bil/mile. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucey Posted May 22, 2020 Share #24086 Posted May 22, 2020 5 hours ago, bobtehpanda said: The railroads aren't cheap to operate either, and I don't think the SIR is under the jurisdiction? PATH has an operating cost per passenger-mile triple that of NYC and other peers, and it's disturbing because PATH has very high ridership so you'd expect that number to be lower. https://www.nj.com/news/2015/01/whats_the_real_reason_the_port_authority_is_targeting_the_path.html Has anyone ever done a breakdown on what causes that figure to be so high? I’d guess having multiple conductors per train, but the change In operating cost from peak period to overnight seems extremely ludicrous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68OnBroadway Posted May 22, 2020 Share #24087 Posted May 22, 2020 1 hour ago, MHV9218 said: I assume all overground, and only allowing compatibility South/East of Newport Pavonia? Cause otherwise you'd have to fully replace the SIR fleet for shorter car, and tunneling you're talking $1-2bil/mile. I’d imagine a tunnel from Grove street to the HBLR ROW, then conversion of that ROW, then a tunnel under the Arthur Kill to the North Shore Branch which can run to St George and stop there (or continue if needed). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeeP15-9112 Posted May 22, 2020 Share #24088 Posted May 22, 2020 Does the still print subway timetables? Ive looked all around on YT and the latest that Ive seen was around 2010. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abba Posted May 22, 2020 Share #24089 Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) You could probably get if you ask a station clerk. Not sure now with COVID if they will give . Edited May 22, 2020 by Abba 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted May 22, 2020 Share #24090 Posted May 22, 2020 16 hours ago, MHV9218 said: I assume all overground, and only allowing compatibility South/East of Newport Pavonia? Cause otherwise you'd have to fully replace the SIR fleet for shorter car, and tunneling you're talking $1-2bil/mile. Is SIR so crowded that this matters? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jchambers2120 Posted May 25, 2020 Share #24091 Posted May 25, 2020 Interesting find today working the Charlie. It looks like they’ve been updating the R179’s. The set I had today had the same “ding” that the Lirr M7’s have when you press the PA button. I also noticed the pause between “the next stop is” announcements and transfers has been reduced. It’s still not as fluid as the R143/160, but an improvement nonetheless. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted May 25, 2020 Share #24092 Posted May 25, 2020 17 minutes ago, Jchambers2120 said: Interesting find today working the Charlie. It looks like they’ve been updating the R179’s. The set I had today had the same “ding” that the Lirr M7’s have when you press the PA button. I also noticed the pause between “the next stop is” announcements and transfers has been reduced. It’s still not as fluid as the R143/160, but an improvement nonetheless. Only took them 2 years to fix it 🙄 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted May 26, 2020 Share #24093 Posted May 26, 2020 Today I rode the subway again, ridership was sightly higher, but still very low. Seen whole families and groups of teens riding the subway today. Was very easy to social distance on all the trains I rode today. Nothing noteworthy happened on my way to the Park, but coming home I decided to take the or to the home rather than the to the . Both the downtown & pulled into 57th Street seconds apart, I look into the tunnel on the express track and see the diamond rollsign but I can't tell what type of equipment it is, I assumed it was an R46. I see the pull in and its the 68A! I was gonna take the Q originally but since the N was a 68A I decided to take that instead...... but then the pull in and its an 68A!!!! *foams* R68A are really nostalgic for me since my early years of High School 68A's dominated the which I rode daily. Really enjoyed riding the 68A from 57th to Canal. Prior to the pandemic I was fanning the BMT Broadway line a lot due to the car swap but I'm really happy they are using 68A's on the again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collin Posted May 26, 2020 Share #24094 Posted May 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, trainfan22 said: Today I rode the subway again, ridership was sightly higher, but still very low. Seen whole families and groups of teens riding the subway today. Was very easy to social distance on all the trains I rode today. Nothing noteworthy happened on my way to the Park, but coming home I decided to take the or to the home rather than the to the . Both the downtown & pulled into 57th Street seconds apart, I look into the tunnel on the express track and see the diamond rollsign but I can't tell what type of equipment it is, I assumed it was an R46. I see the pull in and its the 68A! I was gonna take the Q originally but since the N was a 68A I decided to take that instead...... but then the pull in and its an 68A!!!! *foams* R68A are really nostalgic for me since my early years of High School 68A's dominated the which I rode daily. Really enjoyed riding the 68A from 57th to Canal. Prior to the pandemic I was fanning the BMT Broadway line a lot due to the car swap but I'm really happy they are using 68A's on the again. Since the is still suspended, it makes sense they're running the R68A's on other routes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted May 26, 2020 Share #24095 Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) Has anybody spotted an old or Akzidenz bullet on the 68/68A sets yet? I know a lot of Concourse sets (particularly in the 2600s) have the old rolls, but not sure how many of the Coney Island cars or the 68As. Also, interesting to see this in an old photo. This is an R32 with one of the 'Vignelli' 1969 side R16 rollsigns set to the QJ. It must have been cut to fit inside the 32/38 box. All R16 rolls are wider and not cross compatible with the R27+ boxes, but the TA modified some of them to fit. I know SmallParkShuttle, if he still posts here, has one of those modified R16 rolls. The same thing happened with some of the mid-1970s R17 rollsigns, where the TA trimmed them to fit into R21+ boxes. Edited May 26, 2020 by MHV9218 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted May 26, 2020 Share #24096 Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) The seems to have a diverse of fleet from the past few weeks spotted at the Coney Island Co-Ops. Seeing at least 4 R68/As with 7 R46s and 5 R160s on the entire line. The as well, from the aftermath of Jamaica Yard's fleet exchange. Edited May 26, 2020 by Calvin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted May 26, 2020 Share #24097 Posted May 26, 2020 On 5/24/2020 at 11:40 PM, Jchambers2120 said: Interesting find today working the Charlie. It looks like they’ve been updating the R179’s. The set I had today had the same “ding” that the Lirr M7’s have when you press the PA button. I also noticed the pause between “the next stop is” announcements and transfers has been reduced. It’s still not as fluid as the R143/160, but an improvement nonetheless. They have more down time, and the cars are still under warranty so They’re getting around to the sets. Unfortunately, The R179’s will Never have the R160/R143 AAS program because it’s not compatible with the software it came equipped with. Something to note, The doors close at the same speed as the R160’s now however, The next update SHOULD* be the delayed response after hitting the Door Warning button. *fingers crossed* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted May 27, 2020 Share #24098 Posted May 27, 2020 4 hours ago, VIP said: They have more down time, and the cars are still under warranty so They’re getting around to the sets. Unfortunately, The R179’s will Never have the R160/R143 AAS program because it’s not compatible with the software it came equipped with. Something to note, The doors close at the same speed as the R160’s now however, The next update SHOULD* be the delayed response after hitting the Door Warning button. *fingers crossed* Did they fix "The Next Stop Is" glitch on the rest of the programs other then the / ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted May 27, 2020 Share #24099 Posted May 27, 2020 Also, moving this from the R-42 Thread, Do you think the and will return soon, if at all when this is over? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeeP15-9112 Posted May 27, 2020 Share #24100 Posted May 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Lawrence St said: Also, moving this from the R-42 Thread, Do you think the and will return soon, if at all when this is over? Not for a good 6-8 months, assuming people have fears of riding mass transit and decide to take other means (cars). Less ridership = the being temporarily axed. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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