BM5 via Woodhaven Posted April 1, 2020 Share #23626 Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) For the rest of this week, trains will be running via the to/from Atlantic Avenue during overnight hours. The will also be the lone 7th Avenue service, because the will be running via Lexington Ave, and the will not be running. There will be no train service at WTC-Cortlandt, Rector Street, and South Ferry. Edited April 1, 2020 by BM5 via Woodhaven 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted April 1, 2020 Share #23627 Posted April 1, 2020 1 hour ago, subway4832 said: Silly question, perhaps some employee can answer this, but Ive always wondered why they nicknamed the "the beast". I'm not an employee, but based on the length, number of stops, and ridership (both the people who ride and the number of people who ride -- especially outside of Brooklyn), I think I have an idea. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted April 1, 2020 Share #23628 Posted April 1, 2020 1 hour ago, subway4832 said: Silly question, perhaps some employee can answer this, but Ive always wondered why they nicknamed the "the beast". The , aka " the Beast" originally ran from 241st St White Plains Road to New Lots Avenue in Brooklyn. Local stops in the Bronx and Brooklyn. The present day " Beast " also makes local stops in Manhattan overnight on the way to Flatbush-Brooklyn College. It's counterpart is the overnight from 207th Street Manhattan making all local stops to Far Rockaway. Either one is a guaranteed workhorse, mainly for people with little seniority or gluttons for punishment, IMO. My opinion. Carry on. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68OnBroadway Posted April 1, 2020 Share #23629 Posted April 1, 2020 Has 110th Street been reopened or are trains skipping it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted April 1, 2020 Share #23630 Posted April 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, R68OnBroadway said: Has 110th Street been reopened or are trains skipping it? Bypassing the station until a given date is updated . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subway4832 Posted April 1, 2020 Share #23631 Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Trainmaster5 said: The , aka " the Beast" originally ran from 241st St White Plains Road to New Lots Avenue in Brooklyn. Local stops in the Bronx and Brooklyn. The present day " Beast " also makes local stops in Manhattan overnight on the way to Flatbush-Brooklyn College. It's counterpart is the overnight from 207th Street Manhattan making all local stops to Far Rockaway. Either one is a guaranteed workhorse, mainly for people with little seniority or gluttons for punishment, IMO. My opinion. Carry on. 2 hours ago, Lex said: I'm not an employee, but based on the length, number of stops, and ridership (both the people who ride and the number of people who ride -- especially outside of Brooklyn), I think I have an idea. Ahh gotcha, in that case the name definitely seems fitting then lol, thanks guys! Edited April 1, 2020 by subway4832 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucey Posted April 1, 2020 Share #23632 Posted April 1, 2020 1 hour ago, subway4832 said: Ahh gotcha, in that case the name definitely seems fitting then lol, thanks guys! I think local overnight is as bad or worse than local overnight from 207 St to JFK. (I did that years ago when I lived in California - my father’s insistence bc he never trusted the train. It hit EVERY red signal.) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR503 Posted April 2, 2020 Share #23633 Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) 22 hours ago, Trainmaster5 said: The , aka " the Beast" originally ran from 241st St White Plains Road to New Lots Avenue in Brooklyn. Local stops in the Bronx and Brooklyn. The present day " Beast " also makes local stops in Manhattan overnight on the way to Flatbush-Brooklyn College. It's counterpart is the overnight from 207th Street Manhattan making all local stops to Far Rockaway. Either one is a guaranteed workhorse, mainly for people with little seniority or gluttons for punishment, IMO. My opinion. Carry on. The other horrible one is the , especially during GOs or rush hours. A 2 hour round trip without leaving the cab PEL-BBR-PEL + adjacent track flagging or rush hour delays can really do a number on you. And if you're late, and your layover gets cut at Pelham... Edited April 2, 2020 by RR503 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted April 2, 2020 Share #23634 Posted April 2, 2020 45 minutes ago, RR503 said: The other horrible one is the , especially during GOs or rush hours. A 2 hour round trip without leaving the cab PEL-BBR-PEL + adjacent track flagging or rush hour delays can really do a number on you. And if you're late, and your layover gets cut at Pelham... The from VC around the old ferry station and back to VC was no bargain either 😁. I did that once in ‘86 for a celebration ( Statue of Liberty???) and I never went back. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted April 2, 2020 Share #23635 Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, RR503 said: The other horrible one is the , especially during GOs or rush hours. A 2 hour round trip without leaving the cab PEL-BBR-PEL + adjacent track flagging or rush hour delays can really do a number on you. And if you're late, and your layover gets cut at Pelham... As a passenger, I notice that on the you either have an extremely skilled operator and a very smooth ride or an operator that's not up to par and a very rough ride and there's little to no in-between. Can't wait for Lex CBTC and some operational consistency especially in the peak of the peak where one slow train can throw all the rest behind it out of whack. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted April 2, 2020 Share #23636 Posted April 2, 2020 Been wondering for years; were yard put-ins during rush hours set up to be regularly scheduled for certain departures? I used to take the out of 207th weekday mornings in the mid-to-late 2000s, and the 07:22 departure was always a train of R38s that came in from the yard leads; the trains departing directly before and after that were always R44s coming in from the road (not the yard). It's like they had everything timed and planned down to the smallest detail. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR503 Posted April 2, 2020 Share #23637 Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, R10 2952 said: Been wondering for years; were yard put-ins during rush hours set up to be regularly scheduled for certain departures? I used to take the out of 207th weekday mornings in the mid-to-late 2000s, and the 07:22 departure was always a train of R38s that came in from the yard leads; the trains departing directly before and after that were always R44s coming in from the road (not the yard). It's like they had everything timed and planned down to the smallest detail. Yes, internal schedules schedule put ins, layups etc. They are not random operations. 2 hours ago, Around the Horn said: As a passenger, I notice that on the you either have an extremely skilled operator and a very smooth ride or an operator that's not up to par and a very rough ride and there's little to no in-between. Can't wait for Lex CBTC and some operational consistency especially in the peak of the peak where one slow train can throw all the rest behind it out of whack. This. A bunch of new operators on a line with tons of gnarly GTs and poorly signed (if signed at all) STs is really not a recipe for consistent runtimes and service delivery. I do not mean to belittle the work those crews do, of course. It’s just they could benefit from better infrastructure, better training and a more nurturing supervisory environment. Edited April 2, 2020 by RR503 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collin Posted April 2, 2020 Share #23638 Posted April 2, 2020 I've read that there are harsh consequences for tripping a timer, up to and including termination. I don't get the impression there are consequences for running frequently behind schedule. If that is the case, for as long as it is, it will be hard to keep trains on schedule. I totally agree that the crews (and by extension customers) would benefit from better infrastructure, better training, and a more nurturing supervisory environment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeeP15-9112 Posted April 2, 2020 Share #23639 Posted April 2, 2020 How many garbage train runs are there and what times do they usually run? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jova42R Posted April 2, 2020 Share #23640 Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, MeeP15-9112 said: How many garbage train runs are there and what times do they usually run? I know there's one out of 36-38 St that runs down West End (usually 4 R32s + 4 garbage cars) at about 10:30 PM. And speaking of those R32s, they had some WEIRD rollsigns, such as the , and more! Are you trying to railfan the train? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted April 2, 2020 Share #23641 Posted April 2, 2020 10 hours ago, Collin said: I've read that there are harsh consequences for tripping a timer, up to and including termination. I don't get the impression there are consequences for running frequently behind schedule. If that is the case, for as long as it is, it will be hard to keep trains on schedule. I totally agree that the crews (and by extension customers) would benefit from better infrastructure, better training, and a more nurturing supervisory environment. Well I hit a timer my first day working the line (which also happens to be the most overrun signal on that line) and I'm still working here. Since I was still on probation it was treated as a learning experience, along with a "now don't do it again!" warning. There are 100 different reasons for being late. Pick one and you're fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeeP15-9112 Posted April 2, 2020 Share #23642 Posted April 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jova42R said: I know there's one out of 36-38 St that runs down West End (usually 4 R32s + 4 garbage cars) at about 10:30 PM. And speaking of those R32s, they had some WEIRD rollsigns, such as the , and more! Are you trying to railfan the train? Yes. Ive seen about 5 trains already (same route, its the QBL train) I once stumbled upon a REDBIRD garbage train substituting for a R32 train. Heres the consist: South: 9319-19336-3 flats-EP014-EP010 North 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted April 2, 2020 Share #23643 Posted April 2, 2020 https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-man-found-dead-queens-subway-train-20200402-fr7dvwfzkrh3tdq5bjrr2x5rdu-story.html Quote Cops investigate mysterious death of straphanger on Queens subway train By THOMAS TRACY | NEW YORK DAILY NEWS | APR 02, 2020 | 11:55 AM Cops are investigating the death of a 62-year-old man found sprawled on the floor of a subway car at the train’s last stop in Queens Thursday, officials said. Cops were called to the Astoria-Ditmars Blvd. N train station in Astoria about 4:30 a.m. after the victim was discovered dead on the floor of a train car. is name was not immediately released as investigators try to track down family members. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted April 2, 2020 Share #23644 Posted April 2, 2020 5 hours ago, Snowblock said: Well I hit a timer my first day working the line (which also happens to be the most overrun signal on that line) and I'm still working here. Since I was still on probation it was treated as a learning experience, along with a "now don't do it again!" warning. There are 100 different reasons for being late. Pick one and you're fine. What timer if I may ask? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted April 2, 2020 Share #23645 Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, MeeP15-9112 said: How many garbage train runs are there and what times do they usually run? Don't know how many trains of the sort there are, but I've done a lot of late night fanning & what I can tell you is, most of them I usually saw around 3-4am..... 6 hours ago, Jova42R said: Are you trying to railfan the train? How??? By hitching a ride in the trash Edited April 2, 2020 by B35 via Church 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted April 2, 2020 Share #23646 Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) From the updates by mta.info, this is what I've looked at by headway measure of essential travel: - every 15 minutes. : both 15 minutes. However, during the day: The runs via the after E.180 St to Brooklyn College. During overnights, the and switch places. and : Approx. 10 minutes : Every 20 minutes. : 10 minutes between Inwood-207 St to Rock Blvd, long trip as it'll make local stops. : 10 minutes Queens Blvd --> and : 20 minutes per line. The is 15 minutes. Crosstown is every 20 minutes. The Canarsie-14 St is every 10 minutes. : Every 20 minutes. : Every 20 minutes And the being 10-15 minute headways. , and , and : 0 minutes. Edited April 2, 2020 by Calvin Noted on Day and Night. Some headways vary. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted April 3, 2020 Share #23647 Posted April 3, 2020 9 hours ago, MeeP15-9112 said: How many garbage train runs are there and what times do they usually run? The easiest one to find is the one that runs on the Crosstown & Culver line during the PM Rush between 4 and 5 PM. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeeP15-9112 Posted April 3, 2020 Share #23648 Posted April 3, 2020 1 hour ago, trainfan22 said: The easiest one to find is the one that runs on the Crosstown & Culver line during the PM Rush between 4 and 5 PM. Thats the one I usually see, either hiding out in the layups at Bedford-Nostrand , on the Queens Bl Line, or heading back down on the . Thanks though! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted April 3, 2020 Share #23649 Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) I heard the 42nd St Shuttle is suspended tomorrow by 9:30 PM. However, the website sites the next phase in work on Monday, April 6th. Is the shuttle next phase cancelled then? https://new.mta.info/system_modernization/42ndstreet/shuttleservice Edited April 3, 2020 by Calvin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted April 3, 2020 Share #23650 Posted April 3, 2020 23 minutes ago, Calvin said: I heard the 42nd St Shuttle is suspended tomorrow by 9:30 PM. However, the website sites the next phase in work on Monday, April 6th. Is the shuttle next phase cancelled then? https://new.mta.info/system_modernization/42ndstreet/shuttleservice 1. I think the suspension is to free up extra crews from the Shuttle to the mainline A-Division to make the headways more consistent with weekend service. 2. I think the next phase is postponed, and only essential construction will be taking place. Now they might need to run work-trains every so often to prevent tracks from rusting over because now no trains will be mobile along the shuttle line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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