VIP Posted February 23, 2020 Share #23301 Posted February 23, 2020 42 minutes ago, Lex said: Last I checked, 222 > 210, and we've already had serious issues with the R179s. Moreover, it's been stated multiple times (including in official documents!) that the R32s are not to be retired before the R211s arrive and are plentiful enough to facilitate replacement. 1. Documents are not contracts. 2. does Whatever they want. 3. The R179 isn’t your problem, it’s ours. We’ll handle those pieces of trash accordingly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted February 23, 2020 Share #23302 Posted February 23, 2020 21 minutes ago, Deucey said: Why don’t train rollsigns say Van Cortlandt Park anymore? Why does it matter? It still reads 242/Bronx. It’s good enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted February 23, 2020 Share #23303 Posted February 23, 2020 Damn, y'all best get on some blood pressure medication because the amount of salt in here is too damn high. Anyways, I made a... different MTA map, and I was wondering what y'all think. (Yes, stuff like wheelchair accessibility is missing, and there are some misspelled or misplaced station names, but I'll correct it when I correct it. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subway4832 Posted February 23, 2020 Share #23304 Posted February 23, 2020 37 minutes ago, Deucey said: Why don’t train rollsigns say Van Cortlandt Park anymore? Lately they’re been converting alot of 62A rollsigns to single line only. There’s a few sets still roaming with the original rollsigns In em 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucey Posted February 23, 2020 Share #23305 Posted February 23, 2020 26 minutes ago, VIP said: Why does it matter? It still reads 242/Bronx. It’s good enough. Random Thought 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted February 24, 2020 Share #23306 Posted February 24, 2020 59 minutes ago, bobtehpanda said: Damn, y'all best get on some blood pressure medication because the amount of salt in here is too damn high. Anyways, I made a... different MTA map, and I was wondering what y'all think. (Yes, stuff like wheelchair accessibility is missing, and there are some misspelled or misplaced station names, but I'll correct it when I correct it. Well, it's definitely an abstract piece. Even so, it feels wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted February 24, 2020 Share #23307 Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, VIP said: It’s funny how not a single transit worker cried about there being a car shortage if the R32’s retired, meanwhile many of you who don’t work in the yard (or for transit for that matter) are going ape shit about car shortage and “spare factors”... the 210 R179’s came in for Fulton Street/8 Av service and now there’s a car surplus with the R32’s... There’s more than enough R46’s to bless the and the R32’s are not needed and there’s never been a plan to keep X amount of R32 sets til R211’s arrived. I don’t Know where y’all got that from. 222 R32’s verses 210 R179’s huge difference in reliability and replacement. of course they don't care. the workers want them gone and could careless. But as a passenger I want a train to show up and not a large gap in service because there isn't enough trains. spare factors are important, 5 sets of 45 year old R46's is not enough to cover both the lines. what if you have to service 2-3 of those R46's in the inspection barn. now you have 2 sets and a pair of A-A R46's left. 2-3 R46's go down on the road, then those 2 go out and there's 1 less train meaning an ABD. the lower the spare factor, the higher the problems and less time spent on fixing cars to get them back out on the road. that's why getting rid of all the R32's is stupid. they only need 40-70 cars on the road (110 cars in the fleet in total) the R46's are now gonna be on 3 24/7 routes vs. 1 route now lines are all gonna run their R46's 24/7 vs just the so right there is a major reason to have higher spares. and this oh we don't work here attitude doesn't help, I don't pay $127 a month for to keep making the same bullshit mistakes that they been making for the past 50 years. Im not paying more for less, and don't tell me to take an uber or get a car because i bet you and the rest who have that attitude voted for the idiot who runs the city and the idiot up in Albany who are anti car Edited February 24, 2020 by R32 3838 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted February 24, 2020 Share #23308 Posted February 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Deucey said: Why don’t train rollsigns say Van Cortlandt Park anymore? [pic removed] Those new rollsigns piss me off. They're barely more legible, they're inconsistent, and it's all that expense of information. No more "Van Cortlandt Park," no more borough designations for a lot of stops, it's just a needless waste of all the perfectly good original rolls. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted February 24, 2020 Share #23309 Posted February 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Deucey said: Random Thought That was a question. You added a question mark did you not? You can also say my response was a random thought as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted February 24, 2020 Share #23310 Posted February 24, 2020 2 hours ago, MHV9218 said: Those new rollsigns piss me off. They're barely more legible, they're inconsistent, and it's all that expense of information. No more "Van Cortlandt Park," no more borough designations for a lot of stops, it's just a needless waste of all the perfectly good original rolls. Really? What transit decides to do with their funds and equipment has a direct emotional effect on you?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted February 24, 2020 Share #23311 Posted February 24, 2020 35 minutes ago, VIP said: Really? What transit decides to do with their funds and equipment has a direct emotional effect on you?! I mean this is a railfan forum... 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted February 24, 2020 Share #23312 Posted February 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Lex said: Well, it's definitely an abstract piece. Even so, it feels wrong. Tbf, this isn't new. https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/caption.pl?/img/maps/ind_1939_small.jpg https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/caption.pl?/img/maps/irt_1939_small.jpg 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucey Posted February 24, 2020 Share #23313 Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, VIP said: That was a question. You added a question mark did you not? You can also say my response was a random thought as well. Interestingly, my question mark solicited an answer instead of snark (see below). It’s a subway/transit fan forum, and sometimes amidst gripes, some folks just ask “trivia” questions.It’s not that serious. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted February 24, 2020 Share #23314 Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, VIP said: Really? What transit decides to do with their funds and equipment has a direct emotional effect on you?! What's good, guy? Yeah, when I see a clear waste of resources from an agency funded by your fares, my fares, and all of our tax dollars, I do get annoyed. But keep playing snide. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted February 24, 2020 Share #23315 Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, VIP said: Really? What transit decides to do with their funds and equipment has a direct emotional effect on you?! Really? What transit fans decide to post on a random thoughts thread has a direct emotional effect on you?! Because last I checked I don't remember there being specific rules for a random thought and you are the only one acting triggered by it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell179 Posted February 24, 2020 Share #23316 Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, VIP said: Really? What transit decides to do with their funds and equipment has a direct emotional effect on you?! I’m crying 😂 why have you all been so upset lately ? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted February 24, 2020 Share #23317 Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Lex said: Last I checked, 222 > 210, and we've already had serious issues with the R179s. Moreover, it's been stated multiple times (including in official documents!) that the R32s are not to be retired before the R211s arrive and are plentiful enough to facilitate replacement. Check the latest board meeting and subway car roster. There are no more than 100 R32s in revenue service, and during the board meeting that 2022 retirement date was acknowledged as an "error". Edited February 24, 2020 by MysteriousBtrain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted February 24, 2020 Share #23318 Posted February 24, 2020 4 hours ago, MysteriousBtrain said: Check the latest board meeting and subway car roster. There are no more than 100 R32s in revenue service, and during the board meeting that 2022 retirement date was acknowledged as an "error". In other words, damage control... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Valiant Posted February 24, 2020 Share #23319 Posted February 24, 2020 8 hours ago, MysteriousBtrain said: Really? What transit fans decide to post on a random thoughts thread has a direct emotional effect on you?! Because last I checked I don't remember there being specific rules for a random thought and you are the only one acting triggered by it. 8 hours ago, Maxwell179 said: I’m crying 😂 why have you all been so upset lately ? I knowwww!!! XD 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted February 24, 2020 Share #23320 Posted February 24, 2020 11 hours ago, MysteriousBtrain said: Check the latest board meeting and subway car roster. There are no more than 100 R32s in revenue service, and during the board meeting that 2022 retirement date was acknowledged as an "error". wasn't an error, they were going to keep 100-110 cars with 40- 80 remaining in Q1 2022 (retirement year) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted February 24, 2020 Share #23321 Posted February 24, 2020 6 hours ago, Lex said: In other words, damage control... they always did damage control thats why they said the R179's would replace all of the R32/42's not knowing in that half the R44 fleet never got replaced. those 13 R179's on the imo are the true replacements of the remaining R44's. they don't want people thinking they didn't order enough tech trains to completely retire all the SMEE's plus fleet growth. we all knew 40 10 car R179's weren't enough for 2nd ave expansion and just wanted to be cheap but in the end it costed them more money. this is why to this day I always wished they ordered more 160's just enough to replace the remaining R42's and R44's. and have the R179's as a direct replacement of the R32's plus fleet growth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted February 24, 2020 Share #23322 Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, R32 3838 said: wasn't an error, they were going to keep 100-110 cars with 40- 80 remaining in Q1 2022 (retirement year) 53:00-53:30. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted February 24, 2020 Share #23323 Posted February 24, 2020 1 minute ago, MysteriousBtrain said: 53:00-53:30. I have a document stating that 2022 was the retirement date they spent alot of money fixing up 110 r32's for this purpose. what they are saying is just damage control, even if they retire them in the spring, they will still have a shortage 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted February 24, 2020 Share #23324 Posted February 24, 2020 54 minutes ago, R32 3838 said: they always did damage control thats why they said the R179's would replace all of the R32/42's not knowing in that half the R44 fleet never got replaced. those 13 R179's on the imo are the true replacements of the remaining R44's. they don't want people thinking they didn't order enough tech trains to completely retire all the SMEE's plus fleet growth. we all knew 40 10 car R179's weren't enough for 2nd ave expansion and just wanted to be cheap but in the end it costed them more money. this is why to this day I always wished they ordered more 160's just enough to replace the remaining R42's and R44's. and have the R179's as a direct replacement of the R32's plus fleet growth. At that point when the R44’s were being retired wasn’t the R160 order close to being complete? I think it was too late, plus this was right before all those service cuts the made system wide, so they definitely were not in a place to order some additional trains. Unfortunately it did take 7 years for more cars to arrive but I felt with the R179 order they should have ordered more cars. The should have never received 8 car R179s with it instead having 10 car R179s. This would have allowed all cars to be swapped with the whenever they need to be. I don’t know why the is holding off with expanding the and lines. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrionVIIonM79 Posted February 24, 2020 Share #23325 Posted February 24, 2020 Saw an R32 rollsign says Conc/8 Av/Fulton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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