Lawrence St Posted December 7, 2019 Share #22726 Posted December 7, 2019 14 hours ago, Calvin said: Word on the rails on Astoria was that the was 10 mins late on one of the trains during the PM rush hour. - There was a gap at Ditmars Blvd that 4 trains right behind each other is a mix of R46 and R68s. All of them were trains and left as trains. The 68 train just left as is instead of changing the 86 St rollsign to Whitehall St and to that the next train was at last, a R160 as a and left as is. The remaining R160's should remain on runs that interline with the to reduce the need for rollsign changes and confusion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 6 Ave Local Posted December 7, 2019 Share #22727 Posted December 7, 2019 This happened yesterday. I'm not exactly sure what happened, but from what I saw, my train stopped at 135th in the exact manner it would normally - and the doors didn't open. It stopped, then started moving again. I think this one was the operator's fault, seems they forgot to open the doors, especially considering it was normal at every other stop. Might also be something relating to the R32s in general. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted December 7, 2019 Share #22728 Posted December 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, KK 6 Ave Local said: This happened yesterday. I'm not exactly sure what happened, but from what I saw, my train stopped at 135th in the exact manner it would normally - and the doors didn't open. It stopped, then started moving again. I think this one was the operator's fault, seems they forgot to open the doors, especially considering it was normal at every other stop. Might also be something relating to the R32s in general. That reminds me of one time I was on the . The train got to Grand Army Plaza, and people got up to leave the train. The conductor made the typical announcements and the train left without delay. Notice that I never mentioned the doors opening. (Before you ask, this was within the past few years. I'm not old enough to remember Redbirds on the .) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3F Posted December 8, 2019 Share #22729 Posted December 8, 2019 7 hours ago, Lex said: That reminds me of one time I was on the . The train got to Grand Army Plaza, and people got up to leave the train. The conductor made the typical announcements and the train left without delay. Notice that I never mentioned the doors opening. (Before you ask, this was within the past few years. I'm not old enough to remember Redbirds on the .) Happened to me once on a at Carroll Street. All the other stations had the normal procedure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted December 8, 2019 Share #22730 Posted December 8, 2019 23 hours ago, Jemorie said: @Union Tpke, I stumbled upon that Rockaway Park shuttle article page on Wikipedia and read its history section. Does anybody who are members of that site even aware that the summer weekend extension to/from Rockaway Blvd is permanent or no? It's not permanent, but it ran it for the whole summer this year as opposed to only part of it. It's a great service that people are surprisingly unaware of. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemorie Posted December 8, 2019 Share #22731 Posted December 8, 2019 1 hour ago, MHV9218 said: It's not permanent, but it ran it for the whole summer this year as opposed to only part of it. It's a great service that people are surprisingly unaware of. But if they continue this on weekends every summer from next year and onwards, you’d have to consider that permanent. Generally, they’ve been doing this since Summer 2016, even if not all the previous years were for the whole summer. That’s why I feel Wikipedia should be more simplistic unless the has something else up their sleeves in the coming years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted December 8, 2019 Share #22732 Posted December 8, 2019 23 hours ago, KK 6 Ave Local said: This happened yesterday. I'm not exactly sure what happened, but from what I saw, my train stopped at 135th in the exact manner it would normally - and the doors didn't open. It stopped, then started moving again. I think this one was the operator's fault, seems they forgot to open the doors, especially considering it was normal at every other stop. Might also be something relating to the R32s in general. This happened to me at grand ave on an R160 train as well. I tried to tell the t/o but he pulled off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted December 8, 2019 Share #22733 Posted December 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Jemorie said: But if they continue this on weekends every summer from next year and onwards, you’d have to consider that permanent. Generally, they’ve been doing this since Summer 2016, even if not all the previous years were for the whole summer. That’s why I feel Wikipedia should be more simplistic unless the has something else up their sleeves in the coming years. Oh, I thought you meant permanent as in year-round. I suppose it is a semi-permanent summer change, but they've never said that, so probably best not to speculate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted December 8, 2019 Share #22734 Posted December 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, MHV9218 said: Oh, I thought you meant permanent as in year-round. I suppose it is a semi-permanent summer change, but they've never said that, so probably best not to speculate. Precisely why I have not added it in that way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemorie Posted December 8, 2019 Share #22735 Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) 45 minutes ago, MHV9218 said: Oh, I thought you meant permanent as in year-round. I suppose it is a semi-permanent summer change, but they've never said that, so probably best not to speculate. 35 minutes ago, Union Tpke said: Precisely why I have not added it in that way. Yeah that's true. I just thought we could have shorten the sentence instead of repeating "the implemented the Rockaway Blvd summer weekend extension of the Rockaway Park Shuttle" over and over again in the following years to come. But yeah, they never directly did say it was permanent. Guess it's another wait and see game. Given how Wikipedia is very strict when it comes to direct official sources from a particular agency or company. Edited December 8, 2019 by Jemorie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted December 9, 2019 Share #22736 Posted December 9, 2019 I just love the convenience of the running via 6th Ave and up to 96th street on the weekends. It’s a shame that once the train construction is over everything is going to go back to normal with the lack of direct uptown service for North Brooklyn residents. The I was on Sunday around 3:30pm was packed even up along 2nd Ave. A lot of people got off at 72nd street which is where I got off too, so I suspect that this temporary extension of the has created ridership to grow a bit. And after so many months of having no proper signage the stations indicate service to 96th street which helps. So it just makes me wonder if people are going to fight against the weekend cutback of the to Essex Street once the resumes it’s normal service to Manhattan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestrictOnTheHanger Posted December 9, 2019 Share #22737 Posted December 9, 2019 40 minutes ago, NewFlyer 230 said: The I was on Sunday around 3:30pm was packed even up along 2nd Ave. Was the running up 2nd ave this weekend? 41 minutes ago, NewFlyer 230 said: So it just makes me wonder if people are going to fight against the weekend cutback of the to Essex Street once the resumes it’s normal service to Manhattan. I am sure people will complain. However, what really should happen is the should be extended to Forest Hills on weekends once CBTC work is complete. QBL needs the second local more than 2nd ave needs a 6th ave train. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted December 9, 2019 Share #22738 Posted December 9, 2019 55 minutes ago, NewFlyer 230 said: I just love the convenience of the running via 6th Ave and up to 96th street on the weekends. It’s a shame that once the train construction is over everything is going to go back to normal with the lack of direct uptown service for North Brooklyn residents. The I was on Sunday around 3:30pm was packed even up along 2nd Ave. A lot of people got off at 72nd street which is where I got off too, so I suspect that this temporary extension of the has created ridership to grow a bit. And after so many months of having no proper signage the stations indicate service to 96th street which helps. So it just makes me wonder if people are going to fight against the weekend cutback of the to Essex Street once the resumes it’s normal service to Manhattan. They need to make the to 96th permanent on weekends. It's a great help especially if you need the upper East side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted December 9, 2019 Share #22739 Posted December 9, 2019 18 minutes ago, RestrictOnTheHanger said: However, what really should happen is the should be extended to Forest Hills on weekends once CBTC work is complete. QBL needs the second local more than 2nd ave needs a 6th ave train. Absolutely 100% agree. Essex Street is a terrible terminal coming in from the east anyway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted December 9, 2019 Share #22740 Posted December 9, 2019 I had to wait about 15-16 minutes for an yesterday morning. The 5 TPH have really made weekends unbearable on the QBL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted December 9, 2019 Share #22741 Posted December 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, Union Tpke said: I had to wait about 15-16 minutes for an yesterday morning. The 5 TPH have really made weekends unbearable on the QBL. I really can't say it was much better before that. Such is the fate of an especially long route with a rather short express run (when compared to the route's total length)... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biGC323232 Posted December 9, 2019 Share #22742 Posted December 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, Union Tpke said: I had to wait about 15-16 minutes for an yesterday morning. The 5 TPH have really made weekends unbearable on the QBL. Word up...Unbearable is the right term...I missed the 1st half of the Football game yesterday because my ran lcl from J-Center to WTC... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR503 Posted December 9, 2019 Share #22743 Posted December 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Lex said: I really can't say it was much better before that. Such is the fate of an especially long route with a rather short express run (when compared to the route's total length)... I'm old enough to remember the when it ran 8 minute headways on weekends. Those were the days. Trains...actually came. Worth noting that the express/local split of a route + the length of a route has little predictive ability: # of merges, dwell times, signalling, and on weekends GO volume are the metrics that matter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted December 9, 2019 Share #22744 Posted December 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, Lex said: I really can't say it was much better before that. Such is the fate of an especially long route with a rather short express run (when compared to the route's total length)... It was. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted December 10, 2019 Share #22745 Posted December 10, 2019 10 hours ago, Around the Horn said: Absolutely 100% agree. Essex Street is a terrible terminal coming in from the east anyway. I agree as well even though I think Essex street is a much better terminal than Myrtle Ave-Broadway which was the terminal for all weekend service before the extension.The is just more useful than the is since the goes uptown. It was even proven before the ‘s introduction along 6th Ave that more people desired service towards Midtown than towards lower Manhattan. Plus the has to do somewhat of a back track if for example you needed to catch the or going uptown where you’d get off at Fulton whereas the you would actually be going uptown already where you’d get off at West 4th. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted December 10, 2019 Share #22746 Posted December 10, 2019 13 hours ago, R32 3838 said: They need to make the to 96th permanent on weekends. It's a great help especially if you need the upper East side. You’ll be pleasantly surprised next year. 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted December 10, 2019 Share #22747 Posted December 10, 2019 18 hours ago, Around the Horn said: Absolutely 100% agree. Essex Street is a terrible terminal coming in from the east anyway. Even Chambers Street is a better option. Everyone who needs the additional options gets shafted by having only the . Good forbid they also do those unidirectional reroutes of the via Cranberry Street. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemorie Posted December 10, 2019 Share #22748 Posted December 10, 2019 4 hours ago, CenSin said: Even Chambers Street is a better option. Everyone who needs the additional options gets shafted by having only the . Good forbid they also do those unidirectional reroutes of the via Cranberry Street. And unidirectional reroutes of the and . Despite me and @RR503 having that debate little while ago about weekend service, I honestly still can’t see it being extended out to Midtown due to ongoing full closures of construction and/or work under traffic on other trunk lines that are not Queens Blvd. The only other way I could see weekend service to/from Midtown is if CBTC finally comes into play across the whole system or if they limit the constant Manhattan-Brooklyn reroutes. Can’t have the running on the same tracks between West 4 and Broadway-Lafayette. I personally feel like the only reason why weekend service short turns at Essex (outside of the 14th Street Tunnel shutdowns) is because it is not a Nassau Street Line train? Hence you see the heavier sort of crowding on uptown trains at Delancey-Essex lower level. But they really should sometime in the future if the really can’t access 6th Avenue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted December 10, 2019 Share #22749 Posted December 10, 2019 34 minutes ago, Jemorie said: I personally feel like the only reason why weekend service short turns at Essex (outside of the 14th Street Tunnel shutdowns) is because it is not a Nassau Street Line train? Hence you see the heavier sort of crowding on uptown trains at Delancey-Essex lower level. But they really should sometime in the future if the really can’t access 6th Avenue. I mean, it’s not really a 2 Avenue route either, but it goes there anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemorie Posted December 10, 2019 Share #22750 Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, CenSin said: I mean, it’s not really a 2 Avenue route either, but it goes there anyway. That’s not even what I meant though and you know that. The turning at Chambers instead of Essex or be rerouted from Queens Blvd to SAS are two different things. Constant work under traffic every Saturday and Sunday limits the amount of trains per hour on any trunk line to as far as 15 or 18. That, in addition to what’s going on with the , is the only reason why the is running to Midtown and the Upper East Side in the first place. At least with Essex or Chambers, the does not get in the way with the rerouted lines from their normal corridors, as I just mentioned earlier. Edited December 10, 2019 by Jemorie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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