Union Tpke Posted August 27, 2019 Share #22051 Posted August 27, 2019 28 minutes ago, trainfan22 said: Used the Juilus St - Livonia Av transfer today and my goodness the train entrance is COVERED in bird poop, that entrance needs a good wash. The overpass over the Bay Ridge branch makes an nice railfan spot, there's an abandoned locomotive visible from the overpass. Untitled by Union Turnpike, on Flickr 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted August 28, 2019 Share #22052 Posted August 28, 2019 3 hours ago, New Flyer Xcelsior said: So they came from 36-38 Sts yard? or the South Bklyn Railway? or the on 4 Av? Yes, they do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted August 28, 2019 Share #22053 Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Jemorie said: The , , , , and , same thing. They end close to or around 11 p.m. daily as their full-time counterparts shift from their daytime service pattern to their overnight service pattern. Come November, these lines will end early than normal since they already keep ending them earlier than prior schedule. General orders also start much earlier than they used to or around 9:30 p.m.. Hence the upcoming November picks. The only exception is the train, however. There’s this goofy 20 minute gap in service between 9:30 and 10pm thru Manhattan they need to fill on the new schedule ASAP. I think they horribly mistimed the last train out of Utica and the first train from New Lots, resulting in a gap big enough for the final two trains of the night to show up before the first from New Lots shows up in Midtown. Someone audit the N̶o̶v̶e̶m̶b̶e̶r̶ ̶r̶e̶h̶e̶a̶r̶s̶a̶l̶ ̶s̶c̶h̶e̶d̶u̶l̶e̶ supplemental schedules for this week to double check this. I stumbled on this screwup tonight at Grand Central and wound up taking Metro-North instead to avoid that clusterf**k. Edited August 28, 2019 by paulrivera format change 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted August 28, 2019 Share #22054 Posted August 28, 2019 11 hours ago, Union Tpke said: Untitled by Union Turnpike, on Flickr Wasn't the connection to the LIRR here? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jova42R Posted August 28, 2019 Share #22055 Posted August 28, 2019 Shouldn't there be an train express down the line? Also, which lines connect to the ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jova42R Posted August 28, 2019 Share #22056 Posted August 28, 2019 Has anyone here played Brand New Subway? Link is in my signature. It is a super-fun create your own subway game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted August 28, 2019 Share #22057 Posted August 28, 2019 1 hour ago, New Flyer Xcelsior said: Shouldn't there be an train express down the line? Also, which lines connect to the ? That last question, you never had a paper subway map before? I used to love collecting those as a kid to look at all the routes & connections. Not to be rude but dude, you could just look at a subway map to answer your last question, it's also online on MTA.info. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted August 28, 2019 Share #22058 Posted August 28, 2019 2 hours ago, New Flyer Xcelsior said: Shouldn't there be an train express down the line? Also, which lines connect to the ? The runs along a two-track line. There used to be express service along the local tracks, with service running express between Myrtle and Lorimer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted August 28, 2019 Share #22059 Posted August 28, 2019 28 minutes ago, Union Tpke said: The runs along a two-track line. There used to be express service along the local tracks, with service running express between Myrtle and Lorimer. Express service? When was this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted August 28, 2019 Share #22060 Posted August 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: Express service? When was this? Starting in 1936 and into the 1940s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyclonicTrainLookout Posted August 28, 2019 Share #22061 Posted August 28, 2019 Random thought, but how would a skip-stop service work out on the BMT Canarsie Line to help the ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted August 28, 2019 Share #22062 Posted August 28, 2019 1 hour ago, CyclonicTrainLookout said: Random thought, but how would a skip-stop service work out on the BMT Canarsie Line to help the ? No. That artificially decreases service at skipped stations, and the has sky-high ridership and high frequency. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted August 28, 2019 Share #22063 Posted August 28, 2019 2 hours ago, CyclonicTrainLookout said: Random thought, but how would a skip-stop service work out on the BMT Canarsie Line to help the ? This was proposed in early 1991. Quote L (Canarsie Line) Weekday Peak Period Speed Improvements Rapid Service Operating Statistics;Total AM Peak Riders: 15,000 A. Description of Current Service: The "L" operates as a local from Rockaway Parkway to 8th Avenue at all times. There are 24 stops and the peak travel time is 41 minutes from end to end. B. Description of Proposed Adjustment; Two services, "L" and "K" would operate in skip-stop service during the peak 60 minutes. Both "L" and "K" trains would stop at key transfer and high volume stations, including: Rockaway Parkway, Eastern Parkway, Myrtle Av, Lorimer St, First Av, Union Sq., Sixth Av, and Eighth Av, "L"trains would stop at E 105 St, Livonia Av, Atlantic Av, Wilson Av, DeKalb Av, Morgan Av, Grand Av, and Bedford Av, "K" trains would stop at New Lots Av, Sutter Av, Bushwick Av, Halsey St, Jefferson St, Montrose Av, Graham Av and 3rd Av, Service Travel times will be reduced up to four minutes http://www.laguardiawagnerarchive.lagcc.cuny.edu/FileBrowser.aspx?LinkToFile=FILES_DOC/QUEENS_FILES/03.012.0231.030147.2.PDF#undefined 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jova42R Posted August 28, 2019 Share #22064 Posted August 28, 2019 7 hours ago, trainfan22 said: That last question, you never had a paper subway map before? I used to love collecting those as a kid to look at all the routes & connections. Not to be rude but dude, you could just look at a subway map to answer your last question, it's also online on MTA.info. Sorry, meant the TRACK connections to the . Typo. My bad. I know the all connect to the . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted August 29, 2019 Share #22065 Posted August 29, 2019 1 minute ago, New Flyer Xcelsior said: Sorry, meant the TRACK connections to the . Typo. My bad. I know the all connect to the . There is no direct track connection between the two, a train would have to go into Linden Yard (Or near it) and change ends to go on the line from the and only work trains can do this as Linden Yard leads don't have 3rd rail. While were on this topic, crazy no railfan has footage of a train traveling from either the or lines into Linden Yard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jova42R Posted August 29, 2019 Share #22066 Posted August 29, 2019 1 minute ago, trainfan22 said: There is no direct track connection between the two, a train would have to go into Linden Yard (Or near it) and change ends to go on the line from the and only work trains can do this as Linden Yard leads don't have 3rd rail. While were on this topic, crazy no railfan has footage of a train traveling from either the or lines into Linden Yard. With the , and for that matter the , are there any track connections to other lines? How were the R188s and R143s delivered? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted August 29, 2019 Share #22067 Posted August 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, New Flyer Xcelsior said: With the , and for that matter the , are there any track connections to other lines? How were the R188s and R143s delivered? The has tracks that connects to the line at Broadway Junction, the connects with the at Queensboro Plaza. R143s were delivered at 207th street yard from the Kawasaki plant in Yonkers. 188s IDK. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jova42R Posted August 29, 2019 Share #22068 Posted August 29, 2019 1 minute ago, trainfan22 said: The has tracks that connects to the line at Broadway Junction, the connects with the at Queensboro Plaza. R143s were delivered at 207th street yard from the Kawasaki plant in Yonkers. 188s IDK. So there could be a train that somehow could be A and B divisions, running up the , then down the ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyclonicTrainLookout Posted August 29, 2019 Share #22069 Posted August 29, 2019 1 minute ago, New Flyer Xcelsior said: So there could be a train that somehow could be A and B divisions, running up the , then down the ? It wouldn't be possible for a train to serve both divisions. An A Division train can run on a B Division line, but would leave a large gap between the train and the platform edge. A B Division train would not fit on an A Division tunnel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted August 29, 2019 Share #22070 Posted August 29, 2019 14 hours ago, Lawrence St said: Wasn't the connection to the LIRR here? The connection was further south, in this picture it was past the overhead connection. This picture was taken of the area south of Livonia station and the Junius Street station. The connection you're speaking of was just north of the station at New Lots Avenue. The switch was set up so a transfer had to platform at the New Lots station, the gate opened, and the transfer would wrong rail down to the Bay Ridge Branch. I remember old BMT cars lined up down there waiting for the LIRR to pick them up and head over to the Brooklyn waterfront for scrapping .Hope my description helps. Carry on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jova42R Posted August 29, 2019 Share #22071 Posted August 29, 2019 1 hour ago, CyclonicTrainLookout said: It wouldn't be possible for a train to serve both divisions. An A Division train can run on a B Division line, but would leave a large gap between the train and the platform edge. A B Division train would not fit on an A Division tunnel. I mean, theoretically, if they had automatic wideners/shorteners on the train. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted August 29, 2019 Share #22072 Posted August 29, 2019 20 hours ago, paulrivera said: There’s this goofy 20 minute gap in service between 9:30 and 10pm thru Manhattan they need to fill on the new schedule ASAP. I think they horribly mistimed the last train out of Utica and the first train from New Lots, resulting in a gap big enough for the final two trains of the night to show up before the first from New Lots shows up in Midtown. Someone audit the N̶o̶v̶e̶m̶b̶e̶r̶ ̶r̶e̶h̶e̶a̶r̶s̶a̶l̶ ̶s̶c̶h̶e̶d̶u̶l̶e̶ supplemental schedules for this week to double check this. I stumbled on this screwup tonight at Grand Central and wound up taking Metro-North instead to avoid that clusterf**k. It happened again 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted August 29, 2019 Share #22073 Posted August 29, 2019 1 hour ago, paulrivera said: It happened again Did you check to make sure nothing popped up in the gap? (I only ask because I want to make sure this isn't one of those cases where a train hasn't started just yet but exists in the schedule.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted August 29, 2019 Share #22074 Posted August 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Lex said: Did you check to make sure nothing popped up in the gap? (I only ask because I want to make sure this isn't one of those cases where a train hasn't started just yet but exists in the schedule.) I'll try to dig deeper tomorrow. I'm thinking the gap happens between the last from Utica (express in Brooklyn) and the first from New Lots (local in Brooklyn). If that's the case, the gap would be 10 minutes (normal service) at Utica with the gap between the two growing until the second train passes Nevins Street (5 minutes lost making local stops and a 5 minute delay for crowding on top of that is very plausible.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jova42R Posted August 29, 2019 Share #22075 Posted August 29, 2019 On 7/25/2019 at 3:59 PM, lara8710 said: Does anyone know why almost all of the elevated structures of the subway are painted green? I was wondering this too! Does anyone know why? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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