Calvin Posted May 22, 2019 Share #21351 Posted May 22, 2019 A deep voice can be heard approaching Hunterspoint Av station: mentioning a free transfer for the train 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted May 22, 2019 Share #21352 Posted May 22, 2019 11 hours ago, Bay Ridge Express said: I think saying the R46s got a "makeover" is a bit extreme, pal. And I think it’s not extreme, buddy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted May 22, 2019 Share #21353 Posted May 22, 2019 10 hours ago, BreeddekalbL said: Ok what's this I hear someone is being a stupid JABRONI and pulling emergency cords?! Someone might have found them: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassTransitHonchkrow Posted May 22, 2019 Share #21354 Posted May 22, 2019 There is a dangerous nut job sabotaging service on multiple lines for the lulz. More below. © Jalopnik | story by Aaron Gordon | 5/22/2019 https://jalopnik.com/new-york-has-a-supervillain-pulling-emergency-brakes-an-1834936243 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted May 23, 2019 Share #21355 Posted May 23, 2019 (edited) The Clark St tunnel planned work strategy is back this weekend (except this time: no service): If those interested in the R142s at the WTC-Cortlandt station, the will head to South Ferry and to Eastchester-Dyre Av via 7 Av. The is rerouted via Lexington Av Express. --- *For clarification: it's to Eastchster-Dyre Av while the terminates at Wakefield-241 St, just a change in field Edited May 23, 2019 by Calvin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted May 23, 2019 Share #21356 Posted May 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Calvin said: The Clark St tunnel planned work strategy is back this weekend (except this time: no service): If those interested in the R142s at the WTC-Cortlandt station, the will head to South Ferry and to Eastchester-Dyre Av via 7 Av. The is rerouted via Lexington Av Express. Wait huh? I thought it was to South Ferry and to Flatbush? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted May 23, 2019 Share #21357 Posted May 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: Wait huh? I thought it was to South Ferry and to Flatbush? You’re right. He just means that crews are doing the and crews are doing the . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted May 23, 2019 Share #21358 Posted May 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, S78 via Hylan said: You’re right. He just means that crews are doing the and crews are doing the . Which means that we'll have more crews working at the cost of fewer crews (the frequencies tied to the designations aren't changing), so any "benefit" is minimal, at best. Edited May 23, 2019 by Lex 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremiahC99 Posted May 23, 2019 Share #21359 Posted May 23, 2019 1 hour ago, S78 via Hylan said: You’re right. He just means that crews are doing the and crews are doing the . Also, for clarification, are they no longer have trains run local south of 34th Street-Penn Station to/from South Ferry, which is what they do when the tunnel is closed for construction? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted May 23, 2019 Share #21360 Posted May 23, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, JeremiahC99 said: Also, for clarification, are they no longer have trains run local south of 34th Street-Penn Station to/from South Ferry, which is what they do when the tunnel is closed for construction? Checking the service changes, it'll switch tracks at Chambers Street. The 7 Av Express portion is still there since there's no train terminating 14 St. Edited May 23, 2019 by Calvin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassTransitHonchkrow Posted May 23, 2019 Share #21361 Posted May 23, 2019 19 hours ago, BreeddekalbL said: Ok what's this I hear someone is being a stupid JABRONI and pulling emergency cords?! I should read back before I post, but I believe it's this. A similar post is on my LinkedIn and Minds pages. Only in New York can such a sadist exist. But if anyone has other stories of this happening elsewhere in the country, I'd love to hear about it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted May 23, 2019 Share #21362 Posted May 23, 2019 I signed up and answered the questions for a NY1 Town hall titled The State of Mass Transit: A Live Town Hall. I hope many of you guys sign up as well. We need intelligent people who know the system to attend! https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/transit/2019/05/08/the-state-of-mass-transit--a-live-town-hall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted May 23, 2019 Share #21363 Posted May 23, 2019 Does anyone have any before & after pics of the Franklin ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted May 23, 2019 Share #21364 Posted May 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Lawrence St said: Does anyone have any before & after pics of the Franklin ? Look at nycsubway.org, subchat, Forgotten NY. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68OnBroadway Posted May 23, 2019 Share #21365 Posted May 23, 2019 Here's a new B div deinterlining plan: (note that new switches would be built between 50th upper and the express tracks) 168th-Lefferts/Rockaways via CPW local, 8th express and Fulton express. Local late nights. BPB-Euclid via Concourse local, CPW local, 8th express and Fulton local. Weekends to 145th; late nights no service. 179th-WTC via Hillside/QBL local, 53rd, and 8th local at all times. Norwood (or BPB) - Brighton Beach via Concourse express (rush hours), CPW express, 6th express and Brighton express. Weekends/late nights via local in Bronx. 207th-CI via CPW express, 6th express and so on. Express on CPW all times. 179th-CI via QBL express, 63rd, 6th local and Culver express. Weekends local in Queens; late nights via on Culver and QBL local. JC-Church via QBL express, 63rd, 6th local and Culver local. Same service pattern at all times. extended to 18th using center track (new switches added). rerouted up 2nd; skips 49th. unchanged. Astoria-Bay Ridge. eliminated. unchanged. runs on "local" tracks between Essex and Chambers. Metropolitan-Bay Ridge. same as . Is there something that can be done about terminal space on Concourse? BPB is a lousy place to turn trains but it's not like you can fit more at Norwood. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell179 Posted May 23, 2019 Share #21366 Posted May 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, R68OnBroadway said: Here's a new B div deinterlining plan: (note that new switches would be built between 50th upper and the express tracks) 168th-Lefferts/Rockaways via CPW local, 8th express and Fulton express. Local late nights. BPB-Euclid via Concourse local, CPW local, 8th express and Fulton local. Weekends to 145th; late nights no service. 179th-WTC via Hillside/QBL local, 53rd, and 8th local at all times. Norwood (or BPB) - Brighton Beach via Concourse express (rush hours), CPW express, 6th express and Brighton express. Weekends/late nights via local in Bronx. 207th-CI via CPW express, 6th express and so on. Express on CPW all times. 179th-CI via QBL express, 63rd, 6th local and Culver express. Weekends local in Queens; late nights via on Culver and QBL local. JC-Church via QBL express, 63rd, 6th local and Culver local. Same service pattern at all times. extended to 18th using center track (new switches added). rerouted up 2nd; skips 49th. unchanged. Astoria-Bay Ridge. eliminated. unchanged. runs on "local" tracks between Essex and Chambers. Metropolitan-Bay Ridge. same as . Is there something that can be done about terminal space on Concourse? BPB is a lousy place to turn trains but it's not like you can fit more at Norwood. The is going express from Jay St all the way to Neptune av or just between jay and church ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68OnBroadway Posted May 24, 2019 Share #21367 Posted May 24, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Maxwell179 said: The is going express from Jay St all the way to Neptune av or just between jay and church ? Jay to Church. You could add a stop at Bergen (with an underpass too so SB riders can catch the ), but considering that the line would already have good Manhattan-bound service (16tph would be my goal) adding an express stop may be unnecessary and may also slow down lower Culver commutes. Edited May 24, 2019 by R68OnBroadway grammar error 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted May 24, 2019 Share #21368 Posted May 24, 2019 Don't know if anyone notices this but the Lexington Av Express speed is faster than it was before. There are occasions to when they'll slow down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell179 Posted May 24, 2019 Share #21369 Posted May 24, 2019 9 hours ago, R68OnBroadway said: Jay to Church. You could add a stop at Bergen (with an underpass too so SB riders can catch the ), but considering that the line would already have good Manhattan-bound service (16tph would be my goal) adding an express stop may be unnecessary and may also slow down lower Culver commutes. Ahh okay 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted May 25, 2019 Share #21370 Posted May 25, 2019 Like the past couple of summers the Rock Park shuttle is extended to Rockaway Blvd on weekends, should be fun this year with the 32s & 179s in the mix... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankees4life Posted May 26, 2019 Share #21371 Posted May 26, 2019 From the idiots who brought you the Train, introducing the skip-stop train Came back from church (86th) on the train. It skipped Hoyt, Eastern Parkway Museum, President (because of repairs), Sterling, Winthrop (because of repairs). I believe we skipped the others because there was ANOTHER behind us. Made for a very fast trip back to Flatbush 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted May 26, 2019 Share #21372 Posted May 26, 2019 One of the statements that constantly get repeated around here is the idea that "The old was empty" (and/or useless or whatever description you choose). So since I found an old schedule of mine this afternoon, I decided to look up the schedule from the same time period in the Wayback machine, and I found that might have been partially by design. I'll explain: The and all ran every ten minutes or 6 TPH each, coming out to a combined 18 TPH during the morning and evening peaks (8 to 9 AM and 5 to 6 PM). Now obviously that doesn't divide evenly. 60/18= 3 and a third. So how do you insert that third service in between the or coming every five minutes? Looking at the schedule, downtown trains arrived at Essex Street on the 3's (so that's 8:13, 8:23, 8:33, etc). trains arrived on the 7's (8:17, 8:27, 8:37, etc) and trains arrived on the 2's (8:12, 8:22, 8:32, etc) Going back uptown in the evening, trains left Broad Street on the 0's (5:00, 5:10, 5:20, etc) and trains left on the 5's (5:05, 5:15, 5:25, etc) and trains arrived at Broad Street on the 6's (5:06, 5:16, 5:26, etc). Now what looks off there? That's right. The was always scheduled to be only one minute behind a ! This means in a ten minute period you had headways of 5, 1 and 4 minutes. No wonder the was so "empty", the directly in front was taking on 5 minutes worth of passengers and the was directly behind it, not picking up much and then the would be 4 minutes behind that . I'd also imagine that would kill reliability on the to be scheduled directly behind a train especially going Downtown when it would be fumigating at Broad Street. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR503 Posted May 27, 2019 Share #21373 Posted May 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Around the Horn said: One of the statements that constantly get repeated around here is the idea that "The old was empty" (and/or useless or whatever description you choose). So since I found an old schedule of mine this afternoon, I decided to look up the schedule from the same time period in the Wayback machine, and I found that might have been partially by design. I'll explain: The and all ran every ten minutes or 6 TPH each, coming out to a combined 18 TPH during the morning and evening peaks (8 to 9 AM and 5 to 6 PM). Now obviously that doesn't divide evenly. 60/18= 3 and a third. So how do you insert that third service in between the or coming every five minutes? Looking at the schedule, downtown trains arrived at Essex Street on the 3's (so that's 8:13, 8:23, 8:33, etc). trains arrived on the 7's (8:17, 8:27, 8:37, etc) and trains arrived on the 2's (8:12, 8:22, 8:32, etc) Going back uptown in the evening, trains left Broad Street on the 0's (5:00, 5:10, 5:20, etc) and trains left on the 5's (5:05, 5:15, 5:25, etc) and trains arrived at Broad Street on the 6's (5:06, 5:16, 5:26, etc). Now what looks off there? That's right. The was always scheduled to be only one minute behind a ! This means in a ten minute period you had headways of 5, 1 and 4 minutes. No wonder the was so "empty", the directly in front was taking on 5 minutes worth of passengers and the was directly behind it, not picking up much and then the would be 4 minutes behind that . I'd also imagine that would kill reliability on the to be scheduled directly behind a train especially going Downtown when it would be fumigating at Broad Street. It's worth noting here that the big scheduling stick point on the Myrtle/Jamaica lines is Myrtle Junction; if I had to guess, those weird headways worked out to (theoretically) conflict free junction operation on that end...that said, given the number of people who (even to this day) jump ahead on the from Essex, having the take a little delay at Myrtle may not be the worst thing. The other big issues w/ were service hours, frequency and route. After the bridge reopened, the was a rush-only affair (and only 7:00-9:45 AM + 3:30-7:00 PM at Broad at that), meaning that the subway's increasingly off-peak centric rider demographic could not use it, or could not rely on it to get them to work during rush hour and then get them back after some business dinner. The moreover only hit the low(er) ridership portion of the 4th local corridor and had to merge with the or on top of all the Lower Manhattan shenanigans, which introduced even more unattractiveness into its profile. Add to that the fact that the ran 10 min headways through that entire span, and there was frankly little reason to rely on it rather than planning around or to . To be clear, I don't think that the is a service pattern that's worth resuscitating outside of some really radical deinterlining plan, but I do think that in conversations about a Nassau-Bay Ridge service, these are points worth keeping in mind. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted May 27, 2019 Share #21374 Posted May 27, 2019 46 minutes ago, RR503 said: To be clear, I don't think that the is a service pattern that's worth resuscitating outside of some really radical deinterlining plan, but I do think that in conversations about a Nassau-Bay Ridge service, these are points worth keeping in mind. It is a good point to remember (and your points about service hours is also well noted). It's funny because when I was working on the Nassau as part of that deinterlining exercise for the proposals thread a few months ago, I was thinking that I'd have to insert a buffer of at least two minutes between an and a or for it to work right, because I thought there was no way that they'd schedule trains one minute apart like that, and lo and behold, they actually did. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted May 27, 2019 Share #21375 Posted May 27, 2019 Can anyone update me to where the r179 is? Both of them or 1 of them is fine. Thx a lot 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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