NoHacksJustKhaks Posted March 9, 2018 Share #5301 Posted March 9, 2018 8 hours ago, VIP said: I hear that the will have very few sets of R46’s from the shutdown til retirement, meaning the will have mostly 60ft equipment in service. It's been a LONG while since that was the case! Most R44's/46's have been on that line for dinosaur years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted March 9, 2018 Share #5302 Posted March 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Calvin said: 3110 on its way to NY state Unless plans have changed, that should be the first car... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dj Hammers Posted March 9, 2018 Share #5303 Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) Plans are still up in the air and may change regarding exactly which car type(s) will be on the line Edited March 9, 2018 by Dj Hammers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted March 9, 2018 Share #5304 Posted March 9, 2018 3111 with 3110 now in NYC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco Posted March 9, 2018 Share #5305 Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Calvin said: 3111 with 3110 now in NYC Then I suppose 3112-3113 will be coming tomorrow? That would be weird considering it's usually been the highest numbers first. 35 minutes ago, Dj Hammers said: Plans are still up in the air and may change regarding exactly which car type(s) will be on the line I wouldn't be surprised if ultimately they decide to run R160A1s on the for uniformity. Less work for Coney Island to do. 1 hour ago, NoHacksJustKhaks said: It's been a LONG while since that was the case! Most R44's/46's have been on that line for dinosaur years. It's long overdue, but if that's the case, what will happen with the getting R32s? Is the CI/Jamaica swap still happening? Having mostly 60 foot cars on the implies that the remaining R32s will go there. Edited March 9, 2018 by Bosco 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U-BahnNYC Posted March 9, 2018 Share #5306 Posted March 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bosco said: I wouldn't be surprised if ultimately they decide to run R160A1s on the for uniformity. Less work for Coney Island to do. I second this. Most logical option is to have Coney R160/R68, ENY R143/R160/ 8-car R179, 207th R32/R46 and Pitkin R46/ 10-car R179. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted March 9, 2018 Share #5307 Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Bosco said: Then I suppose 3112-3113 will be coming tomorrow? That would be weird considering it's usually been the highest numbers first. Unless they came in yesterday. So far, this is my list of delivered cars. Am I missing anything? I haven't really been paying attention too closely. 3010-3019 (10) 3050-3069 (20) 3078-3101 (24) 3110-3113 [4] Edited March 9, 2018 by Fan Railer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j express Posted March 9, 2018 Share #5308 Posted March 9, 2018 14 hours ago, Bosco said: Then I suppose 3112-3113 will be coming tomorrow? That would be weird considering it's usually been the highest numbers first. I wouldn't be surprised if ultimately they decide to run R160A1s on the for uniformity. Less work for Coney Island to do. It's long overdue, but if that's the case, what will happen with the getting R32s? Is the CI/Jamaica swap still happening? Having mostly 60 foot cars on the implies that the remaining R32s will go there. Right now they want to make the all R46s first and ENY all new techs when the R179s are coming in. Maybe after that’s complete the CI/Jamaica swap happens 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimB Posted March 9, 2018 Share #5309 Posted March 9, 2018 Is the going to get any R179s? If yes, when's the most likely time that they would put R179s on the ? Also, what's the best site to follow the rolling stock assignments? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHacksJustKhaks Posted March 9, 2018 Share #5310 Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, EphraimB said: Is the going to get any R179s? If yes, when's the most likely time that they would put R179s on the ? Also, what's the best site to follow the rolling stock assignments? Yes, and it’ll get most if not all 5 car R179 sets, the first set will go in service likely soon or maybe in mid 2018 but there’s no specific date. All R179’s thatll eventually be on the will be on that line by the time of the Canarsie shutdown. Website I use for rolling stock: http://www.thejoekorner.com/carassignments/bmt-ind-2018-01-12.htm Hoped any of this helped. Edited March 9, 2018 by NoHacksJustKhaks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimB Posted March 9, 2018 Share #5311 Posted March 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, NoHacksJustKhaks said: Yes, and it’ll get most if not all 5 car R179 sets, it’s likely soon or maybe in mid 2018 but there’s no specific date. Website I use for rolling stock: http://www.thejoekorner.com/carassignments/bmt-ind-2018-01-12.htm How many 5-car R179s will there be? How many trains would that equal to? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted March 9, 2018 Share #5312 Posted March 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, EphraimB said: How many 5-car R179s will there be? How many trains would that equal to? Enough to cover at least half of the A fleet. The rest will most likely be r46s and some r32s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHacksJustKhaks Posted March 9, 2018 Share #5313 Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, EphraimB said: How many 5-car R179s will there be? How many trains would that equal to? 24 5 car sets, or roughly 120 individual cars, for reference, the has a bit above 300 individual cars in service. So R179s definitely are enough to cover a vast majority of the fleet. Many R46’s are leaving the so the fleet will consist of: -Roughly Half R179s -A majority of R32’s from and -Little to few R46s Edited March 9, 2018 by NoHacksJustKhaks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted March 9, 2018 Share #5314 Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, NoHacksJustKhaks said: 24 5 car sets, or roughly 120 individual cars, for reference, the has a bit above 300 individual cars in service. So R179s definitely are enough to cover a vast majority of the fleet No, the runs 38-39 trains during the peak hours. That is the equivalent of 380-390 60-foot cars. 12 trains is not a "vast majority" of 38 trains, nor is it even "roughly half", and that's before you even consider the fact that at least 2 of the 12 trains will be out of service at any given time as part of the spare factor. Edited March 9, 2018 by Fan Railer 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHacksJustKhaks Posted March 9, 2018 Share #5315 Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Fan Railer said: No, the runs 38-39 trains during the peak hours. That is the equivalent of 380-390 60-foot cars. 12 trains is not a "vast majority" of 38 trains. Good point: So only less than or around a 1/3 usually even a 1/4 of the with 60ft cars during peak hours will be composed of 179’s. Also, Im not sure if the one R68 set on the line will stay, or go to other lines once the 179’s come. This question was probably already answered, so no need to be detailed. Edited March 9, 2018 by NoHacksJustKhaks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted March 9, 2018 Share #5316 Posted March 9, 2018 19 minutes ago, Fan Railer said: No, the runs 38-39 trains during the peak hours. That is the equivalent of 380-390 60-foot cars. 12 trains is not a "vast majority" of 38 trains, nor is it even "roughly half", and that's before you even consider the fact that at least 2 of the 12 trains will be out of service at any given time as part of the spare factor. Also keep in mind that the A will only give up about half of the 46s to the C, meaning that the A will still keep a lot of its r46s in addition to the 5 car 179s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted March 9, 2018 Share #5317 Posted March 9, 2018 21 minutes ago, Fan Railer said: No, the runs 38-39 trains during the peak hours. That is the equivalent of 380-390 60-foot cars. 12 trains is not a "vast majority" of 38 trains, nor is it even "roughly half", and that's before you even consider the fact that at least 2 of the 12 trains will be out of service at any given time as part of the spare factor. The will mostly likely have the R32’s as spares since they don’t have to take out a full consist if one car is a “dead car” or performing poorly. I strongly expect no R179’s running overnight on the in its first few months in service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimB Posted March 9, 2018 Share #5318 Posted March 9, 2018 So when the R211s come into service, will the only have R179s and R211s? Will the majority of the fleet be R179s or R211s? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted March 9, 2018 Share #5319 Posted March 9, 2018 1 hour ago, EphraimB said: So when the R211s come into service, will the only have R179s and R211s? Will the majority of the fleet be R179s or R211s? WAY too soon to tell...!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted March 9, 2018 Share #5320 Posted March 9, 2018 1 hour ago, EphraimB said: So when the R211s come into service, will the only have R179s and R211s? Will the majority of the fleet be R179s or R211s? It's soon to tell, but I have a feeling that the 5 car r179's will all go to the C once the r211s are delivered. Those 5 car r179's cover most of the C fleet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimB Posted March 9, 2018 Share #5321 Posted March 9, 2018 23 minutes ago, subwaycommuter1983 said: It's soon to tell, but I have a feeling that the 5 car r179's will all go to the C once the r211s are delivered. Those 5 car r179's cover most of the C fleet. So the 5-car R179s will temporarily be on the until the R211s come and when the R211s come to the , then the will get the 5-car R179s? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted March 9, 2018 Share #5322 Posted March 9, 2018 We really don't know where these cars will end up. All we know is that the 211s will replace the 46s. What that entails in terms of individual line assignments remains to be seen. What we do know is that the Queens Blvd and 8th Avenue lines have to use 160s or newer to facilitate CBTC signaling. Beyond that is anyone's guess. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted March 9, 2018 Share #5323 Posted March 9, 2018 2 hours ago, EphraimB said: So the 5-car R179s will temporarily be on the until the R211s come and when the R211s come to the , then the will get the 5-car R179s? That's just a possible scenario. The testing and delivery of the r211s are a few years away. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m2fwannabe Posted March 10, 2018 Share #5324 Posted March 10, 2018 23 hours ago, Calvin said: 3110 on its way to NY state NYS or New York CITY? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m2fwannabe Posted March 10, 2018 Share #5325 Posted March 10, 2018 22 hours ago, Dj Hammers said: Plans are still up in the air and may change regarding exactly which car type(s) will be on the line Not many alternatives in that regard, but the R-179 contingent is more akin to a fixed quantity than a specific number group. Cars can always be numerically regrouped (in sequence) later on. Do you recall the "nonsense" (far from consecutive) initial assignments of the R-142's between and before 2002? By my count, there are so far 36 of the East New York group delivered (3058-69, 3078-3101). Pilots 3050-57 still (likely) require a lot of post-production mods before release for burn-in so are not part of this count. Should be upwards of 20 or so more R-179's to arrive before ENY's allocation fills out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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