DJ MC Posted June 8, 2012 Share #651 Posted June 8, 2012 The thing to do in lieu of SAS is to order extra 179's right away, to replace all the 32's and 42's, and then some 46's would be put into storage until the additional cars are needed, so you would not need to wait for the 211's. That could also work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted June 8, 2012 Share #652 Posted June 8, 2012 The thing to do in lieu of SAS is to order extra 179's right away, to replace all the 32's and 42's, and then some 46's would be put into storage until the additional cars are needed, so you would not need to wait for the 211's. It would be nice if they ordered more of the 10 car sets so the can be a full 600'. That way it would trains can be compatible with the if the needs to borrow a train. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted June 8, 2012 Share #653 Posted June 8, 2012 Yeah!!! It looks as the is getting NTT's "a cry of joy" I was waiting for someone to say that... Remember: this photo came from Bombardier, not the MTA. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted June 14, 2012 Author Share #654 Posted June 14, 2012 I also mentioned them being proposed for the Super A Express train, but I refuse to look through nearly 3 hours of news footage for a 4 minute article on the A, so I will just wait till I get fore info from the TA. That's why I haven't updated that thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted June 17, 2012 Share #655 Posted June 17, 2012 I'm going out on limb by saying that those trucks are most likely not going to be used on the R179s? They probably will.The R179 order isn't a joint order with Kawasaki,but if the TA learned anything from the R46 with its original trucks,then maybe they should throw Kawasaki sneakers on them....Just to be safe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted June 17, 2012 Share #656 Posted June 17, 2012 Yeah. Thats the concept pic for them. yeah, im expecting those trucks if they stay awarded to Bombardier. If you havent noticed with the NTT orders since the 142's, the trucks depend on the builder. heres a perfect example: Look at the trucks on a Bombardier-Built M7 Now look at the ones on the Kawasaki built M8. The M8's have a similar design to all the trucks on NYCT cars built by Kawasaki. on a side note, (insert "just an opinion based of fact please dont jump down my throad disclaimer here) I would not be surprised if the 179's get equipped with ONIX. System components can be "vendored" to other suppliers. The ONIX propulsion is NYCT in-house designed. They were originally tested on a set of R38s thru the Broad Channel flats in the late 90s. Its very possible that the Bombardier-built 179 can be supplied with ONIX if the MTA decides that the ONIX is the more preferable choice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted June 17, 2012 Share #657 Posted June 17, 2012 on a side note, (insert "just an opinion based of fact please dont jump down my throad disclaimer here) I would not be surprised if the 179's get equipped with ONIX. System components can be "vendored" to other suppliers. The ONIX propulsion is NYCT in-house designed. They were originally tested on a set of R38s thru the Broad Channel flats in the late 90s. Its very possible that the Bombardier-built 179 can be supplied with ONIX if the MTA decides that the ONIX is the more preferable choice. Are you aware that it was announced that Bombardier MITRAC would be the propulsion? (Not a rhetorical question; I'd just like to know the answer.) Because I kind of wish they would use ONIX and I was a bit disappointed to hear that it would be MITRAC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted June 17, 2012 Share #658 Posted June 17, 2012 Actually no. I didnt know. Thanks for the info. And I agree. I'd rather ONIX as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted June 17, 2012 Share #659 Posted June 17, 2012 Really? I'm actually looking forward to some new sounds around the system other than that ONIX propulsion that we have for almost half the fleet now lol. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted June 17, 2012 Share #660 Posted June 17, 2012 Really? I'm actually looking forward to some new sounds around the system other than that ONIX propulsion that we have for almost half the fleet now lol. You have a point, and while I do sympathize with all of the railfans who are begging for variety, I'd rather have propulsion that "fits in" with the NYC system. While I'm sure that I'll get used to the sounds of MITRAC, I have come to associate ONIX with the NYC subway. Yes, I understand that the "old timers" think that anything that isn't DC propulsion doesn't fit in with NYC at all... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted June 18, 2012 Share #661 Posted June 18, 2012 ONIX can return to his PokeBall. It had it's turn. Shared it with Siemens for a bit, now let MITRAC have a go. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted June 18, 2012 Share #662 Posted June 18, 2012 one major factor thats a pro about having ONIX is that its in-house designed. NYCT designed it specifically for NYCT equipment. No other propulsion within the fleet has that fact. Its also been tested. as was stated, basically half the fleet. and can be retrofitted into other fleets. An R38 was the test train for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted June 18, 2012 Share #663 Posted June 18, 2012 one major factor thats a pro about having ONIX is that its in-house designed. NYCT designed it specifically for NYCT equipment. No other propulsion within the fleet has that fact. Its also been tested. as was stated, basically half the fleet. and can be retrofitted into other fleets. An R38 was the test train for it. too bad there aren't any clips of that thing running. I would have very much liked to see it and hear it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted June 19, 2012 Share #664 Posted June 19, 2012 This was back during late 96-early 97. Before the test track there was built too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted June 20, 2012 Share #665 Posted June 20, 2012 How can ONIX be desidned specifically for NYCT equipment of MetroRail cars in DC have it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted June 20, 2012 Share #666 Posted June 20, 2012 How can ONIX be desidned specifically for NYCT equipment of MetroRail cars in DC have it? They mean this specific version of the Onix propulsion system. There are many variants, my friend. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted June 20, 2012 Share #667 Posted June 20, 2012 Then why can't that be done for other propulsions? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted June 21, 2012 Share #668 Posted June 21, 2012 Then why can't that be done for other propulsions? No one said it couldn't. It just hasn't been done. Simple as that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted June 23, 2012 Share #669 Posted June 23, 2012 So how does that propulsion sound like. I was hoping it to sound like the R143 or R142A's 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted June 23, 2012 Share #670 Posted June 23, 2012 Listen to this: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted June 23, 2012 Share #671 Posted June 23, 2012 (edited) So how does that propulsion sound like. I was hoping it to sound like the R143 or R142A's You can also look at London Underground's 2009 stock and WMATA's 5000 series stock. Both have mitrac propulsion. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6EHlxDAGRk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfDykUUvdCM Edited June 23, 2012 by Fan Railer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Flxible Posted June 24, 2012 Share #672 Posted June 24, 2012 Well, I'm sold. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog14 Posted June 24, 2012 Share #673 Posted June 24, 2012 You can also look at London Underground's 2009 stock and WMATA's 5000 series stock. Both have mitrac propulsion. I had a feeling it was going to be something like this. That's gonna be a epic sound. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted June 24, 2012 Share #674 Posted June 24, 2012 I had a feeling it was going to be something like this. That's gonna be a epic sound. It just doesn't feel like New York to me ...Like a different "metro" style subway system. But I'll get used to it quickly, I'm sure, when it actually comes B) . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted June 24, 2012 Share #675 Posted June 24, 2012 Oh man I was hoping it will have that awsome sound that the R142/3's have but it's ok. Sounds a little similar to the R160B's 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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