R32 3838 Posted January 8, 2020 Share #8701 Posted January 8, 2020 Just wait and see as more info comes to light, this is in fact true. R42's going back in service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted January 8, 2020 Share #8702 Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) Message from a document: Car Equipment discovered that rapidly recycling the doors on the R179 fleet was causing some critical door piece to wear down. The R179s cannot be used again until Bombardier inspects every car replacing falling parts, and re-certifies each train. (RESET) button activated Edited January 8, 2020 by Calvin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimategamer12c Posted January 8, 2020 Share #8703 Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) Question if the R179s getting taken off the A,C and J does that mean the R160s will touch the C again ? and does that mean the R32s will touch the J as well just curious that's all cause I was just wondering. Edited January 8, 2020 by Ultimategamer12c 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted January 8, 2020 Share #8704 Posted January 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ultimategamer12c said: Question if the R179s getting taken off the A,C and J does that mean the R160s will touch the C again ? and does that mean the R32s will touch the J as well just curious that's all cause I was just wondering. Bruh, no one really knows what's going to happen. I will assume the C is going to be all R32's if they can help it. I think that would be the easiest solution without having to swap cars back. The J/Z have to make service with whatever they got 42's and 160's, maybe a few sets of 32's. A train probably getting 46's back from Coney, it'll be interesting tomorrow. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subway4832 Posted January 8, 2020 Share #8705 Posted January 8, 2020 Maybe the A will see R160's and some 68's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted January 8, 2020 Share #8706 Posted January 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, danielhg121 said: Bruh, no one really knows what's going to happen. I will assume the C is going to be all R32's if they can help it. I think that would be the easiest solution without having to swap cars back. The J/Z have to make service with whatever they got 42's and 160's, maybe a few sets of 32's. A train probably getting 46's back from Coney, it'll be interesting tomorrow. ENY will get some R32's since they need at least 4 additional sets with the 50 R42's. The will probably be all R32's And the will likely be mostly R46's with borrowed cars from Coney island or wherever. Hoping R160's and R68's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimategamer12c Posted January 8, 2020 Share #8707 Posted January 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, R32 3838 said: ENY will get some R32's since they need at least 4 additional sets with the 50 R42's. The will probably be all R32's And the will likely be mostly R46's with borrowed cars from Coney island or wherever. Hoping R160's and R68's. Are you sure on the R32 part on eny getting them ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaPr03 Posted January 8, 2020 Share #8708 Posted January 8, 2020 18 minutes ago, R32 3838 said: ENY will get some R32's since they need at least 4 additional sets with the 50 R42's. The will probably be all R32's And the will likely be mostly R46's with borrowed cars from Coney island or wherever. Hoping R160's and R68's. Most likely R46s for regular fleet experience/recognition, but that's just me 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted January 8, 2020 Share #8709 Posted January 8, 2020 One small door problem should not take an entire fleet out of service. What they would do is do 8-10 cars at a time too see if this works and that works. but once you retire a fleet, that means you can’t operate them on lines unless if it was for emergency notices. Bombardier should’ve known about these door issues, but it’s just not about door issues. It’s about money as well. I’ve seen newer fleets taken out of service for a minimum two weeks, then go back in service. since they are barred from the R211 order due to the fact that they have issues with the R179s, they do have to give the MTA 20 more cars as a compensation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted January 8, 2020 Share #8710 Posted January 8, 2020 2 hours ago, GojiMet86 said: Sooo...... according to a post in a FB group, the entire R179 fleet has been grounded because of a door opening enroute... Don’t believe in them until you get any reliable sources because all they do is assume that it’s 2019 all over again with them door issues on the R179. You know you get haters that love these older cars to come back ever since Friday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted January 8, 2020 Share #8711 Posted January 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, FLX9304 said: Don’t believe in them until you get any reliable sources because all they do is assume that it’s 2019 all over again with them door issues on the R179. You know you get haters that love these older cars to come back ever since Friday. It's not a rumor, the whole R179 fleet is grounded. This door issue is major, one of the doors opened while the train was running. This incident prompted TA management to take the whole fleet oos until bombardier fix the problem on every consist. 1 hour ago, Ultimategamer12c said: Are you sure on the R32 part on eny getting them ? Well ENY just transferred 3 R160's to 207th. (I don't know why it's a waste to since it's not the summer) but hey at least R160's on the once again. So this does indicate some R32's will be transferred to ENY. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted January 8, 2020 Share #8712 Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, R32 3838 said: It's not a rumor, the whole R179 fleet is grounded. This door issue is major, one of the doors opened while the train was running. This incident prompted TA management to take the whole fleet oos until bombardier fix the problem on every consist. Well ENY just transferred 3 R160's to 207th. (I don't know why it's a waste to since it's not the summer) but hey at least R160's on the once again. So this does indicate some R32's will be transferred to ENY. That should’ve been a pre-trip inspection. Before anything happens, they should go and inspect cars before being put into service. But things can happen on the run. Now I understand if cracks happen (Like SEPTA’s SLVs or WMATA’s 7000 series that was taken Oos for a few months until each car was inspected) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted January 8, 2020 Share #8713 Posted January 8, 2020 6 hours ago, Calvin said: Message from a document: Car Equipment discovered that rapidly recycling the doors on the R179 fleet was causing some critical door piece to wear down. The R179s cannot be used again until Bombardier inspects every car replacing falling parts, and re-certifies each train. (RESET) button activated This is hilarious! However, this is a very serious issue that could have badly hurt or killed someone. Can't wait for the R42s to come back into service! Change of plans today! http://www.subchat.com/readflat.asp?Id=1534620 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyMyself Posted January 8, 2020 Share #8714 Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Union Tpke said: This is hilarious! However, this is a very serious issue that could have badly hurt or killed someone. Can't wait for the R42s to come back into service! Change of plans today! http://www.subchat.com/readflat.asp?Id=1534620 Well there are stickers that say “do not lean on the door” for a reason. I was on a train before and the door opened slightly, but then closed itself, while the train was moving. (R62A, idk the car #) Besides the point, this is completely outrageous! At least all of the R179s have been delivered, but this is ridiculous. Edited January 8, 2020 by SimplyMyself 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted January 8, 2020 Share #8715 Posted January 8, 2020 BREAKING: 300 cars pulled off service as of this morning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biGC323232 Posted January 8, 2020 Share #8716 Posted January 8, 2020 25 minutes ago, Future ENY OP said: BREAKING: 300 cars pulled off service as of this morning. Welp...There's your reliable source of info.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexAveExp5 Posted January 8, 2020 Share #8717 Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) https://mobile.twitter.com/danrivoli/status/1214930377728516101 It wasn’t a 179 🤷♂️ Edited January 8, 2020 by LexAveExp5 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted January 8, 2020 Share #8718 Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) Edited January 8, 2020 by Union Tpke 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLine Posted January 8, 2020 Share #8719 Posted January 8, 2020 Big coincidence, old R32 doors cause the MTA to find some door issue on the R179 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted January 8, 2020 Share #8720 Posted January 8, 2020 28 minutes ago, Union Tpke said: So they blamed the wrong train class and still found something wrong? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted January 8, 2020 Share #8721 Posted January 8, 2020 It was an R179 Quote from Greg mocker It’s the latest and biggest problem for the newest subway cars. NYC Transit has removed the R179 cars from service. In separate statements, both the MTA and Bombardier said 2 doors on cars in the R179 fleet recently failed to function as intended. NYCT Transit President Andy Byford says the manufacturer, Bombardier Transportation, notified the agency Tuesday night about its analysis of a recent issue Transit says all passengers were safe but the incident raises questions about the reliability of a door mechanism. “Out of an abundance of caution, NYCT removed all R179 train cars from service overnight for thorough inspection and re-deployed other spare cars to continue service for this morning’s rush and ensure minimal impacts to customers. I commend the hardworking men and women of New York City Transit for their efforts last evening,” Byford said. All lines were to be operating at normal service levels with the exception of the J/Z line, where headways have been increased by two minutes in between trains for the AM peak period, and skip-stop service suspended. NYCT has brought on LTK Engineering Services for an independent third-party review of inspections of the cars. “As documented, the MTA has identified repeated issues with Bombardier’s performance and finds this latest development unacceptable. We intend to hold the company fully accountable,” Byford added. A spokesperson for Bombardier says the investigation shows that the doors were not properly calibrated by Kangni, the door operator supplier. “We are now inspecting all of the R179 cars and, where necessary, making adjustments to ensure the safe and reliable performance of the doors for the entire fleet,” said Bombardier spokesperson Maryanne Roberts. The company says it has brought in additional technicians who are working around the clock to inspect, calibrate and test the door systems. “We value our partnership with New York City Transit and are fully committed to providing high quality, reliable, safe rail cars for the millions of people who ride New York’s subway system every day. We will continue to work closely with our customer to make sure that the R179 cars are the best performing cars in New York’s fleet,” Roberts said. The delivery and roll out of the cars has faced problems and delays. “Bombardier sold us lemons. Straphangers need the MTA to manage these contracts from the beginning — before the trains go off the rails,” said NYC Comptroller Scott Stringer. The comptroller issued an audit of the $600-million contract last month criticizing the production and project management. The MTA has worked to monitor the contract and hold Bombardier accountable. The agency and company are still determining the timeline for complete repairs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted January 9, 2020 Share #8722 Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) On 1/8/2020 at 12:56 AM, Ultimategamer12c said: Are you sure on the R32 part on eny getting them ? The A, C J/Z need whatever subway car is available (except 10 car trains on the J/Z) to prevent service interruption. This current r179 issue is all over the media and the fact that all r179's were pulled oos means that the situation is really BAD!! The good news is that this issue is being addressed now and not years later and all r179's will go back in service. It's just a matter of when. Edited January 9, 2020 by subwaycommuter1983 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyMyself Posted January 9, 2020 Share #8723 Posted January 9, 2020 For those who are interested, Byford held a news conference today that talks about the R179s. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted January 9, 2020 Share #8724 Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, SimplyMyself said: For those who are interested, Byford held a news conference today that talks about the R179s. http://www.mta.info/press-release/nyc-transit/transcript-new-york-city-transit-president-andy-byford-issues-update-r179 Look at the fail in the title: SUWBAY CARS Edited January 9, 2020 by Union Tpke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazmatCat2004 Posted January 10, 2020 Share #8725 Posted January 10, 2020 Has one R42 made its way onto the C???? I saw one pair shuffling on the b line! also, does anyone know when the r42s will be taken away again?? I will miss em so much 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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