Forest Glen Posted December 28, 2010 Share #1 Posted December 28, 2010 A few weeks ago, I bought tickets for an the 9:16 AM ACES train that would depart on March 5. Yesterday, I received a call that ACES was cutting service. Service will only run during the summer months. Given their anemic ridership, I don't blame them for cutting service. Amtrak did give me a refund (though I also bought a Greyhound ticket for the return trip, and Greyhound is stingy about refunds). Between this and the Baltimore fiasco, I'm really having back luck with Amtrak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
553 Bridgeton Posted December 28, 2010 Share #2 Posted December 28, 2010 I dont blame them for cutting service. They brought this ACES out at the wrong time when Casinos in AC were down in terms of service. If anyone is going to Atlantic City, I recommend taking the 319/Academy or Greyhound. Greyhound you get $20 back if you take the Ballys Casino Route. So if you paid $38 for the ticket, then in the end you only paid $18. Borgata(I think) put alot of money in this and its not working for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted December 28, 2010 Share #3 Posted December 28, 2010 I dont blame them for cutting service. They brought this ACES out at the wrong time when Casinos in AC were down in terms of service. If anyone is going to Atlantic City, I recommend taking the 319/Academy or Greyhound. Greyhound you get $20 back if you take the Ballys Casino Route. So if you paid $38 for the ticket, then in the end you only paid $18. Borgata(I think) put alot of money in this and its not working for them. ACES' site isn't showing anything. As for NJT 319, is the NY-AC roundtrip really $39? The one-way is $35.75 already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoodciti Posted December 29, 2010 Share #4 Posted December 29, 2010 ACES should cut the fare, $60 round trip is a little steep compared to the Casino Buses and the garden state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Glen Posted January 3, 2011 Author Share #5 Posted January 3, 2011 A few weeks ago, I bought tickets for an the 9:16 AM ACES train that would depart on March 5. Yesterday, I received a call that ACES was cutting service. Service will only run during the summer months. Given their anemic ridership, I don't blame them for cutting service. Amtrak did give me a refund (though I also bought a Greyhound ticket for the return trip, and Greyhound is stingy about refunds). Between this and the Baltimore fiasco, I'm really having back luck with Amtrak. My fears were confirmed: http://www.subchat.com/read.asp?Id=1020304 Ignoring Brian Weinturd's vitriol, the thread mentions that ACES will still operate from Memorial Day to Labor Day. However, the fact that the fares were high and it wasn't a direct run to Atlantic City hurt its ridership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted January 4, 2011 Share #6 Posted January 4, 2011 Yeah No ACES till May! Man I need to head to NJ this Friday to catch a P40 Genesis on the ACES. (Hopefully not a PL42 as i can see that another day). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted January 4, 2011 Share #7 Posted January 4, 2011 Yeah No ACES till May! Man I need to head to NJ this Friday to catch a P40 Genesis on the ACES. (Hopefully not a PL42 as i can see that another day). ACES only runs P40's due to clearance restrictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted January 5, 2011 Share #8 Posted January 5, 2011 PL42AC cannot fit in the tunnels, and was not designed to, the genesis was, or they may have uses something different. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N-Trizzy2609 Posted January 5, 2011 Share #9 Posted January 5, 2011 PL42AC cannot fit in the tunnels, and was not designed to, the genesis was, or they may have uses something different. - A I think mark is referring too the very rare but often happening when a either a P40 or ALP-44 clunks out, the send a PL42 to Newark Penn. And this has happened many times after the P40 fire in Morrisville because of snow, alp-44 acting their age. And alot of stress to the P40s. ALP-44 4402 die out once in Croydon, they had to send another ALP-44 from Morriville to pick up the set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokecrazy Posted January 9, 2011 Share #10 Posted January 9, 2011 I dont blame them for cutting service. They brought this ACES out at the wrong time when Casinos in AC were down in terms of service. If anyone is going to Atlantic City, I recommend taking the 319/Academy or Greyhound. Greyhound you get $20 back if you take the Ballys Casino Route. So if you paid $38 for the ticket, then in the end you only paid $18. Borgata(I think) put alot of money in this and its not working for them. The casinos are no longer giving cash back, they are now giving out $30 in game play instead. People were keeping the cash and not gambling it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted January 10, 2011 Share #11 Posted January 10, 2011 The casinos will be fine. As far as the PL42AC, that modified service pattern was newark to AC, they all ready stopped in newark, so it was simple to modify the operation, i believe they could lay up on track A as an option to track 5 during that time. The fire was from worn out original parts, since fixed. No railroad equipment is ever going to operate flawlessly 100% of the time. I have a feeling this service will be with us for a few years to come in summer only mode, then, when the economy recovers, switch it back to the year round schedule, especially for people doing conference/convention trips as well as other stuff, beachgoers too who plan to stay at hotel during the shoulder season. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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