WannaBeMTA12 Posted December 20, 2010 Share #1 Posted December 20, 2010 which wheels are the drive wheels, the middle or rear wheels.....my uncle a charter bus driver out of White Plains NY (he drive a white MCI btw) told me the middles, but i think it the rear considering the traction problem in the snow.....someone shed light on this plz..... maybe flushing flash knows....hahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted December 20, 2010 Share #2 Posted December 20, 2010 It depends on the bus model, but artics typically have the rearmost wheels as the drive wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted December 20, 2010 Share #3 Posted December 20, 2010 On the D60HF's we have, the rear ones are the drive wheels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoSpectacular Posted December 20, 2010 Share #4 Posted December 20, 2010 If the middle wheels were the drive wheels it would take a ton of extra modification just to get power to those wheels seeing as the middle wheels are on the front half of the bus, PAST the articulation joint, I really don't see how it'd be very possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransitStop Posted December 20, 2010 Share #5 Posted December 20, 2010 the only middle wheels are possibly the VanHool's or Volvo's ( Cant remember which one ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted December 20, 2010 Share #6 Posted December 20, 2010 the only middle wheels are possibly the VanHool's or Volvo's ( Cant remember which one ) I think bother of those manufactures make center wheel drive buses. I know for a fact that Van Hool does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomotion69 Posted December 20, 2010 Share #7 Posted December 20, 2010 Which Van Hool..the AG300 or AG500? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlushingFlash Posted December 20, 2010 Share #8 Posted December 20, 2010 which wheels are the drive wheels, the middle or rear wheels.....my uncle a charter bus driver out of White Plains NY (he drive a white MCI btw) told me the middles, but i think it the rear considering the traction problem in the snow.....someone shed light on this plz..... maybe flushing flash knows....hahahahaha Yeah too bad I dont........I wont drive them for the lousy 25 cents more and they wont come to CS AHAHAHAHAHA Bus Buff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WannaBeMTA12 Posted December 20, 2010 Author Share #9 Posted December 20, 2010 If the middle wheels were the drive wheels it would take a ton of extra modification just to get power to those wheels seeing as the middle wheels are on the front half of the bus, PAST the articulation joint, I really don't see how it'd be very possible. its possible, there are buses with middle drive wheels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransitStop Posted December 20, 2010 Share #10 Posted December 20, 2010 Which Van Hool..the AG300 or AG500? if the company itself makes it middle drive them most likely both models just like NFI made the D60LF and HF Rear wheel drive ( LFR is also rear ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted December 20, 2010 Share #11 Posted December 20, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoSpectacular Posted December 20, 2010 Share #12 Posted December 20, 2010 but those are mid-engined. Drive shafts aren't supposed to bend. There we go. Doesn't that mean they have to be high floor to accommodate the engine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted December 20, 2010 Share #13 Posted December 20, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOB2RTO Posted December 21, 2010 Share #14 Posted December 21, 2010 Van-Hool AG300 is a B-axle drive wheel (middle wheel drive). The C-axle (rear wheel), is are singles, and actually turn the opposite of the front. They make a tighter turn than the rear wheel drive artics. The middle wheel drives are pulley type artics, which means the front pulls the rear. The NYCTA New Flyers, WCDOT and NJT Neoplans, are rear wheel drive. They are pusher types, cause the rear pushes the rest of the bus forward. The pulley type is the cheapest type, and better in the snow. Problem is the middle engine (between the A and B axles), is difficult for most companies to maintain, because they have to modify the maintenance shop, to work on an engine they have to access from the side. The old WCDOT MAN (600series), and the old NJT Volvos were pulley type artics, that had a turnable rear wheel. The current Van-Hool AG300, is a low-floor, but the area on the drivers side, between the A and B axles where the engine is, is actually raised to accommodate the engine........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted December 21, 2010 Share #15 Posted December 21, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChickenPotPie Posted December 24, 2010 Share #16 Posted December 24, 2010 The MBTA's Neoplan AN460LF dual mode articulated buses have powered middle wheels. There is a DD60 diesel engine in the rear, but it is used to generate electrical power for the motors rather than directly spinning the wheels themselves. These buses were designed for use in Boston's Waterfront BRT tunnel, but are often used on regular bus routes during the winter because they don't experience the same problems as our other artics. Our newer New Flyer hybrid artics, curiously enough, are rear wheel powered despite the MBTA having known for years the problems rear wheeled powered artics have in the winter and having experience with powered middle wheel artics. One would think that with the recent advancements in hybrid and dual mode technology that transit agencies in northern cities would opt for powered middle wheel axle artics instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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