NX Express Posted June 11, 2010 Share #26 Posted June 11, 2010 ugly map. Clerk: (looks at tourist): I heard that Tourist: Okay. {Goes to another clerk, repeat from Quote 1} :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted June 11, 2010 Share #27 Posted June 11, 2010 ^^Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorman2085 Posted June 11, 2010 Share #28 Posted June 11, 2010 Has there been a suggestion to charge for subway maps to cover the MTA budget? This would reduce waste from people that use it once and tossing it out as well as help to raise revenue and reduce cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted June 12, 2010 Share #29 Posted June 12, 2010 Has there been a suggestion to charge for subway maps to cover the MTA budget? This would reduce waste from foamers as well as help to raise revenue and reduce cost. Corrected! Actually, that would be inconvenient, as an agent would have to be asked for every map, instead of "Here you go, come and take". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted June 12, 2010 Share #30 Posted June 12, 2010 Has there been a suggestion to charge for subway maps to cover the MTA budget? This would reduce waste from people that use it once and tossing it out as well as help to raise revenue and reduce cost. I haven't heard of any but it'd definitely come in handy. Unless you're buying a MetroCard or having it refilled at a token booth clerk then the MTA should charge, let's say, $0.50 for a map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted June 12, 2010 Share #31 Posted June 12, 2010 Why should anyone have to pay anything for a map of the subway system? That would be akin to paying Google every time I used their directions service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted June 12, 2010 Share #32 Posted June 12, 2010 Why should anyone have to pay anything for a map of the subway system? That would be akin to paying Google every time I used their directions service. Also, someone could just use the free ones in the trains/stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted June 12, 2010 Share #33 Posted June 12, 2010 I haven't heard of any but it'd definitely come in handy. Unless you're buying a MetroCard or having it refilled at a token booth clerk then the MTA should charge, let's say, $0.50 for a map. But then, you might have people putting less on their MetroCards so they can get more maps. Still, not a bad idea, though. $0.25 or $0.50 isn't ridiculous for a map. Also, someone could just use the free ones in the trains/stations. But it is easier to plan a trip on the map when you have it in your hand. You can study it at home and come to the station already knowing which lines you need to take, instead of planning it out in a busy station, with people rushing by you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted June 12, 2010 Share #34 Posted June 12, 2010 But then, you might have people putting less on their MetroCards so they can get more maps.Still, not a bad idea, though. $0.25 or $0.50 isn't ridiculous for a map. I didn't think of that. But the MTA is broke so they're going to scrounge for every single penny they can get, even if it means they have to charge for maps. Not that I'm necessarily for paying for maps but if it's something the MTA does in the long run I wouldn't complain about it. HOWEVER, I can imagine the checkout line at 3 Stone Street for those wanting Schedules and Maps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted June 12, 2010 Share #35 Posted June 12, 2010 I didn't think of that. But the MTA is broke so they're going to scrounge for every single penny they can get, even if it means they have to charge for maps. Not that I'm necessarily for paying for maps but if it's something the MTA does in the long run I wouldn't complain about it. HOWEVER, I can imagine the checkout line at 3 Stone Street for those wanting Schedules and Maps! Especially foamers before service cuts:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorman2085 Posted June 12, 2010 Share #36 Posted June 12, 2010 Map price needs to be the same as a train ride to ofset the cost. I would estimate that MTA would receive close to $5-10 millions in revenue and cost savings. They should also includes ads in their maps to get more revenue. There are plenty of ways for MTA to get more revenue without reverting to layoffs. That's the fault for their mismanagement and incompetents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted June 12, 2010 Share #37 Posted June 12, 2010 No one's gonna pay $2.25 for a map, no matter how good or bad it is. Also, I don't know how ads would work on the map since the just prints out the same map as it's needed. If it were up to me, I'd put audio ads into the NTTs and video ads on the R160s. It would be better than hearing Charlie Pellett's "Ladies and Gentlemen..." announcements ad nauseam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted June 12, 2010 Share #38 Posted June 12, 2010 The paper maps and timetables should be free and accessible to help tourists and people unfamiliar with the system be able to navigate it safely and carefully. No adverts on the maps, Already the pocket guides on the LIRR have ads in em and it just makes em look cheap. If the city wasnt wasting money on fancy lightposts, blocking off streets and making bike lanes, they could spend more on the MTA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorman2085 Posted June 12, 2010 Share #39 Posted June 12, 2010 Free maps would imply that it doesn't cost anything to produce. Google makes money from ads and search results, that's how you are able to search for free. Without that, google would charge you plenty for the service. Charging for maps is a good way for reducing waste. You'll probably get a better product as well since now there is some incentives to improve on the product to make it more useful, durable and practical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis1985 Posted June 12, 2010 Share #40 Posted June 12, 2010 i need to get me a copy asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted June 12, 2010 Share #41 Posted June 12, 2010 I didn't think of that. But the MTA is broke so they're going to scrounge for every single penny they can get, even if it means they have to charge for maps. Not that I'm necessarily for paying for maps but if it's something the MTA does in the long run I wouldn't complain about it. HOWEVER, I can imagine the checkout line at 3 Stone Street for those wanting Schedules and Maps! LOL! Looks like somebody has to hire a good load of cashiers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted June 12, 2010 Share #42 Posted June 12, 2010 Well i got some of the new maps already and its plain garbage, they left the old bus routes at a station in the balloon. If you look at 241/WPR on the the Bx41 is still there it should be Bx39! AND no Route info anywhere! Plain garbage~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w8Hou Posted June 12, 2010 Share #43 Posted June 12, 2010 Well i got some of the new maps already and its plain garbage, they left the old bus routes at a station in the balloon. If you look at 241/WPR on the the Bx41 is still there it should be Bx39! AND no Route info anywhere! Plain garbage~ There are bunch of errors in the new map, they will have to really need another update or revised update. MTA never triple check their mistakes especially their Subway service guide info--- if its not broken, MTA breaks it easily in this and many cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted June 12, 2010 Share #44 Posted June 12, 2010 Well i got some of the new maps already and its plain garbage, they left the old bus routes at a station in the balloon. If you look at 241/WPR on the the Bx41 is still there it should be Bx39! AND no Route info anywhere! Plain garbage~ 1. And the V is still accessible by elevator at Queens Plaza! 2. This is not a bus map, it's a subway map. 3. Face it, it's the MTA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E Local Posted June 12, 2010 Share #45 Posted June 12, 2010 Does the back of the new map have strip maps like in 1979, or the regular Metro north/LIRR map? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted June 12, 2010 Share #46 Posted June 12, 2010 Does the back of the new map have strip maps like in 1979, or the regular Metro north/LIRR map? LIRR/MNR map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted June 12, 2010 Share #47 Posted June 12, 2010 1. And the V is still accessible by elevator at Queens Plaza!. As noted here for those who are interested: http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=286043#post286043 I agree, this is a subway map. I never seen other transit maps with the same BS. Philly's rail map is pretty clean, IMO. Look at DC's. Even the Underground's map is pretty discernible, because there are no weird balloons that would give someone a nightmare. BART's system map shows none of it, but BART does however, issue a very detailed pamphlet about connecting transit services. I think we should follow a similar example and not kill the map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted June 12, 2010 Share #48 Posted June 12, 2010 As noted here for those who are interested: http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=286043#post286043 I agree, this is a subway map. I never seen other transit maps with the same BS. Philly's rail map is pretty clean, IMO. Look at DC's. Even the Underground's map is pretty discernible, because there are no weird balloons that would give someone a nightmare. BART's system map shows none of it, but BART does however, issue a very detailed pamphlet about connecting transit services. I think we should follow a similar example and not kill the map. Agreed. And that pamphlet should be by borough and cost 25 cents, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted June 12, 2010 Share #49 Posted June 12, 2010 Agreed. And that pamphlet should be by borough and cost 25 cents, IMO. Of course, but truthfully, it would kind of make bus maps redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted June 12, 2010 Share #50 Posted June 12, 2010 Of course, but truthfully, it would kind of make bus maps redundant. Agreed. Then just have bus maps in their respective boro's subway stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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