JubaionBx12+SBS Posted April 27, 2010 Share #1 Posted April 27, 2010 This is pure fantasy but what would you think of an 80 ft., 3 door, double articulated bus running in New York City? I would like the idea if if could ever be reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Bus Posted April 27, 2010 Share #2 Posted April 27, 2010 I think 80 feet is a bit too long especially in Manhattan when the buses turn though it would be very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted April 27, 2010 Share #3 Posted April 27, 2010 In NYC, not happening. In Nowhereville, where the only population is two families and an old dog, it'll work:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted April 27, 2010 Share #4 Posted April 27, 2010 This is pure fantasy but what would you think of an 80 ft., 3 door, double articulated bus running in New York City? I would like the idea if if could ever be reality. Wont work at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted April 27, 2010 Share #5 Posted April 27, 2010 It would be disastorous even along Forham`s` Bx12,And it would increase farebeaters ten fold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engineerboy6561 Posted April 27, 2010 Share #6 Posted April 27, 2010 I have to agree with St. Louis Car and Cait Sith on this: as nice as the idea sounds the bus would only be good on long straightaways and areas with very wide turns. The problem is, I know of no route in New York that does not have at least one problematic turn on it; even the Bx12 SBS has to make tight turns at Inwood that I am pretty sure a three-segmented bus would be unable to handle. Second, where do you plan to locate propulsion on this bus? If you do it in the back and do a push-push configuration you will wind up jackknifing relatively often because the front will turn while the engine continues to push forward. If you try a push-pull configuration you will wind up with a free-swinging back and that will present its own problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 Posted April 27, 2010 Share #7 Posted April 27, 2010 Mmmm, it can work, its just a matter of making more room for the bus stops for whatever line they'll run on. See, a few of you are saying no because it'll need a lot of space to turn. Thats not true, you have to learn the science of an articulated bus. The trailer (rear section) follows what the tractor (front section) does. With a double articualted bus, it would basically have 2 trailers, so the first trailer will follow the tractor, and the second trailer will follow the first trailer. The only problem is a depot to handle them. Gun Hill probably can with the lot they have. They can run in NYC, but operational wise, thats up in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted April 28, 2010 Share #8 Posted April 28, 2010 For an 80' bus, wouldn't the MTA be better off just buying two 40' buses? Sure capcity wise an 80' bus would be pretty good, but that would probably be a nightmare maintenence wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted April 28, 2010 Share #9 Posted April 28, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNIGHTRIDER3:16 Posted April 28, 2010 Share #10 Posted April 28, 2010 I think my culo would hurt cuz I see me never getting out of my seat and never getting out of 23 14 streets However it would be interesting since we have those Nova(A)rtics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted April 28, 2010 Share #11 Posted April 28, 2010 They don't even allow those triple trailers on northeast roads, so I think a bus like that would be out in the cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous85 Posted April 28, 2010 Share #12 Posted April 28, 2010 They don't even allow those triple trailers on northeast roads, so I think a bus like that would be out in the cities. I've seen "3-section-trucks" on I-78 (popular truck route @ night) in PA & NJ as well as near JFK, if that's what you're referring to. Main Truck-Trailer-Trailer Main Bus-Trailer-Trailer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted April 28, 2010 Share #13 Posted April 28, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted April 29, 2010 Share #14 Posted April 29, 2010 I've seen "3-section-trucks" on I-78 (popular truck route @ night) in PA & NJ as well as near JFK, if that's what you're referring to. Main Truck-Trailer-Trailer Main Bus-Trailer-Trailer Well, they must have eased up on restrictions for some roads. I think the NJ Turnpike and 95 don't allow them. How about Camellos, then: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engineerboy6561 Posted May 10, 2010 Share #15 Posted May 10, 2010 I find the Camello idea rather interesting but a major pain in the ass in terms of loading (the passenger section looks like it only has one door) and fare collection (you would need a second person in the passenger section to monitor fares). Back to the 80' doubly articulated bus: the only way I can think of surmounting the turning issues would be a dual drivetrain. The best way to do that would be to make the bus high floor and have two relatively powerful engines, one mounted in the front under the floor and the other mounted in the rear in an LFSA-type configuration. In terms of turning, you would need to give it five axles, applying power to the second and fourth axles. The first axle would have power steering controlled directly by the steering wheel and the fifth axle would have an automated power steering system that uses sensors to determine how far the steering wheel has turned and then turns the fifth axle to match the first. If the drivetrain were configured like that, then such a bus might be feasible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted May 10, 2010 Share #16 Posted May 10, 2010 I also agree with St. Louis Car and Cait Sith. Everytime when Neoplan Artic goes into/out of Main Entrance at Westchester Medical Center, they always hit the curb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNQtrain3912 Posted May 20, 2010 Share #17 Posted May 20, 2010 Definitely would work if there is some system like the RIT of Brazil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rede_Integrada_de_Transporte that bus looks hot. it might work on the b44 southbound as it mostly on nostrand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted May 21, 2010 Share #18 Posted May 21, 2010 So you basically want something the size of a R44 that can bend running down NYC streets? Feasible: yes In NYC: no Wirelessly posted via (Mozilla/5.0 (Danger hiptop 4.6; U; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050920) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted May 22, 2010 Share #19 Posted May 22, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoSpectacular Posted May 22, 2010 Share #20 Posted May 22, 2010 This is pure fantasy but what would you think of an 80 ft., 3 door, double articulated bus running in New York City? I would like the idea if if could ever be reality. Wouldn't work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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