Fan Railer Posted April 16, 2010 Share #151 Posted April 16, 2010 I would like to know you source to your arrogance and cockiness about the third option order of R160s not happening, since that is your claim.:mad: what happened to that source i posted like 3-4 times, did you even look at that??? so here it is AGAIN: http://www.pcac.org/nyctrc/meetings-and-minutes/minutes-102009/ In response to Mr. Strauss’ question as to why they just don’t produce more R160 cars, Mr. Grill said that there was a move in the federal stimulus debate to allow non-competitive, sole source procurements but that the effort failed and this process is not typically permitted under federal law. Ellyn Shannon asked that if NYC Transit does hold focus groups on new car designs that the Council be allowed to observe the proceedings. Mr. Sansone said the R179 is a follow up to the R160. He said there are many changes that are invisible to the rider that have already been made to the design such as reducing the weight of the car. He said they are investigating the use of LED lights and will write the Council at the point the when the design team is ready for them to be looked at. He also said the pole design may be changed and the designers will definitely consult the Council on this issue. That means the R179's will look almost identical to the R160's and the typical rider won't be able to tell the difference. So what's the big deal with whether or not there will be a third option (which in this article is stated to be dead)? So like everyone says, GET OVER IT and MOVE ON. AND DON'T MAKE ME POST THIS AGAIN!!!!!!:mad: oh, and seeing as R33WF hasn't posted his vids yet, here, i'm sure he'll repost them anyway: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railfaner100 Posted April 16, 2010 Share #152 Posted April 16, 2010 what happened to that source i posted like 3-4 times, did you even look at that??? so here it is AGAIN: http://www.pcac.org/nyctrc/meetings-and-minutes/minutes-102009/ That means the R179's will look almost identical to the R160's and the typical rider won't be able to tell the difference. So what's the big deal with whether or not there will be a third option (which in this article is stated to be dead)? So like everyone says, GET OVER IT and MOVE ON. AND DON'T MAKE ME POST THIS AGAIN!!!!!!:mad: Okay, I get it this time and i now understand, Thank you for the help.:tup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted April 16, 2010 Share #153 Posted April 16, 2010 what happened to that source i posted like 3-4 times, did you even look at that??? so here it is AGAIN: http://www.pcac.org/nyctrc/meetings-and-minutes/minutes-102009/ That means the R179's will look almost identical to the R160's and the typical rider won't be able to tell the difference. So what's the big deal with whether or not there will be a third option (which in this article is stated to be dead)? So like everyone says, GET OVER IT and MOVE ON. AND DON'T MAKE ME POST THIS AGAIN!!!!!!:mad: oh, and seeing as R33WF hasn't posted his vids yet, here, i'm sure he'll repost them anyway: Why did you post R33WF's videos? If he wanted to post them now, he would have done so already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted April 16, 2010 Share #154 Posted April 16, 2010 Why did you post R33WF's videos? If he wanted to post them now, he would have done so already. I respect that opinion, but i'm sure he wouldn't mind, and if he does, he can tell me himself. As for you, why did you have to quote the videos as well? Waste of space and virtual memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted April 16, 2010 Share #155 Posted April 16, 2010 I respect that opinion, but i'm sure he wouldn't mind, and if he does, he can tell me himself. As for you, why did you have to quote the videos as well? Waste of space and virtual memory. Don't change the subject. Besides, it's over with now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R33WF Posted April 17, 2010 Author Share #156 Posted April 17, 2010 9/12/10 Car#9947-9950 9/14/10 Car# 9951-9954 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railfaner100 Posted April 22, 2010 Share #157 Posted April 22, 2010 Are there enough R160s ordered to retire all the R44s completely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmouse Posted April 22, 2010 Share #158 Posted April 22, 2010 Are there enough R160s ordered to retire all the R44s completely? ..... i wouldnt say so. They were meant to retire the 60ft SMEEs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railfaner100 Posted April 22, 2010 Share #159 Posted April 22, 2010 Are there enough R160s ordered to retire the remaining R32s and R42s that are left in the property? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted April 22, 2010 Share #160 Posted April 22, 2010 Are there enough R160s ordered to retire the remaining R32s and R42s that are left in the property? No. They are keeping the R32/42s until the R179s come. Now they are retiring the R44s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railfaner100 Posted April 22, 2010 Share #161 Posted April 22, 2010 No. They are keeping the R32/42s until the R179s come. Now they are retiring the R44s. Are there enough R160s ordered to retire all of the R44 cars?:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted April 22, 2010 Share #162 Posted April 22, 2010 Are there enough R160s ordered to retire all of the R44 cars?:confused: I think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted April 22, 2010 Share #163 Posted April 22, 2010 Are there enough R160s ordered to retire all the R44s completely? Yes, but the R32s and R42s are ALL being kept since there are not enough R160s to retire BOTH R32s, R42s and R44s COMPLETELY. Are there enough R160s ordered to retire the remaining R32s and R42s that are left in the property? Yes, that was the original plan. However, now that the R44s are being retired instead, all the remaining R32s and R42s are being kept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 22, 2010 Share #164 Posted April 22, 2010 Are there enough R160s ordered to retire all of the R44 cars?:confused: Affirmative. But since the number of R160s was not intended to replace all Div B car classes from the R32s to the R44s, the next fleet (the R179s) is destined to retire the remaining SMEEs that are not retired yet. Currently there is no information on the R179s yet, but that is what they are supposed to replace, looking from this scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted April 23, 2010 Share #165 Posted April 23, 2010 Are there enough R160s ordered to retire all the R44s completely?4:38 Are there enough R160s ordered to retire the remaining R32s and R42s that are left in the property?6:03 Are there enough R160s ordered to retire all of the R44 cars?:confused: 6:17 Your question will be answered, you don't need to post the same questions again that are not even 2 hours apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted April 23, 2010 Share #166 Posted April 23, 2010 The 9940 series R160s are now at ENY...however, they won't be kicking anything out because they'll most likely be for the new , meaning that the R42s on the will still be around. A T/O on SubChat posted pics of the consist already, 9943-9950. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 23, 2010 Share #167 Posted April 23, 2010 The 9940 series R160s are now at ENY...however, they won't be kicking anything out because they'll most likely be for the new , meaning that the R42s on the will still be around. A T/O on SubChat posted pics of the consist already, 9943-9950. Thanks for the update, LRG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted April 23, 2010 Share #168 Posted April 23, 2010 Thanks for the update, LRG My pleasure, MTR! Link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 23, 2010 Share #169 Posted April 23, 2010 My pleasure, MTR! Link. Oh snap, NETO said it doesn't have the programming... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted April 23, 2010 Share #170 Posted April 23, 2010 Oh snap, NETO said it doesn't have the programming... They don't; it has the programming though B) Speaking of which, the was basically a line that the TA could have done anything with. The original conception of the when new signs were ordered was for it to travel from any the Bronx (Concourse) and head to Canarsie. They have programming to Canarsie, but Metro Avenue I doubt. Regardless they now have to make recordings to Forest Hills. It may take a while for them to have the recordings ready...I only wonder, will they be ready by June come the changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 23, 2010 Share #171 Posted April 23, 2010 This discussion has gone downhill :tdown: Let's keep the peace, please. I would rather not have any more R-160s. I say the R-160s won't be ordered anymore after 9974. It really depends. Right now, it looks like the R179 will replace the remaining SMEEs and such, but that's our only guess. The books may say there will not be any more R160 orders, but things can change without notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted April 23, 2010 Share #172 Posted April 23, 2010 Let's try to act like adults here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 23, 2010 Share #173 Posted April 23, 2010 They don't; it has the programming though B) Speaking of which, the was basically a line that the TA could have done anything with. The original conception of the when new signs were ordered was for it to travel from any the Bronx (Concourse) and head to Canarsie. They have programming to Canarsie, but Metro Avenue I doubt. Regardless they now have to make recordings to Forest Hills. It may take a while for them to have the recordings ready...I only wonder, will they be ready by June come the changes? Beats me. Don't forget though. The other lines have to be reprogrammed to list the new transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted April 23, 2010 Share #174 Posted April 23, 2010 It really depends. Right now, it looks like the R179 will replace the remaining SMEEs and such, but that's our only guess. The books may say there will not be any more R160 orders, but things can change without notice. I've stated already, Option 3 is basically dead. I wouldn't get my hopes up on seeing anymore of them, not because I don't care for em, but because no money is coming towards the MTA's way to bail them out from stopping these cuts so what makes anyone think they can get money for ordering trains? Beats me. Don't forget though. The other lines have to be reprogrammed to list the new transfers. That too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted April 23, 2010 Share #175 Posted April 23, 2010 Railfaner100 has been removed from this discussion. Let's get back on topic and forget about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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