N6 Limited

The only thing I don't agree with is the N6x... they're still barely used compared to the locals and simply adding and removing random stops won't fix anything.  They need to bring back the old Limited.

Isn't the N6x basically the N6L without the Hilliside & Francis Lewis, Springfield Blvd and Locustwood Blvd Stops.

With the change it will only be missing Hillside & Francis Lewis, Locustwood Blvd, and  Westminster, which isn't as important because the next stop transfers with the same buses.

So did you try that SL/Trailways bus N54/55 finally those did not need any reduction not to keep barely used lines alive.

I didn't tr the SL/Trailways bus I almost forgot about it.

Can someone record one of the meetings?

Ok why are we talking about health now

Joel brought it up about waiting for the N25

And after four years of this crap, the only thing I can claim it's done is improve how far I can walk without getting tired.  Why are you even posting about buses and what people do at the stops when you drive?

 

*expects negative rep*

See look you can walk farther without getting tired, that's good.  

As for me posting, I drive and use public transportation, surprise!

After standing for at least 25 minutes every day for the last year for the N25, I really don't see any real improvements to my health.

It's not supposed to improve your health, but it surely did prevent detriment to your health.

No I contacted NICE and they said that the n71 short turns currently ending at stewart av will be extended to 110

Ohh ok, Makes sense.

Because standing for over 15 minutes is fun and conducive to one's health.

Actually standing IS conducive to one's health. There are numerous studys that shows that sitting for prolonged periods of time is bad for one's health.

My take on the proposals and comments I've read:

n4/n4x - Lets understand that NICE is going to use the term Express over Limited for the one obvious reason, NICE=Nassau Inter-County EXPRESS.

The x route has stops at the major stops with transfers to North/South Routes except for the n1 for some reason. The question is, will it be bi-directional? or like the n22 Express which is one way during the morning rush and one way during the evening rush? Also, Merrick Blvd Sucks, it's definitely going to speed up trips not getting bogged down by stopping for passenger exchange and dealing with those traffic signals.

n6/n6x - Interesting, many people are going to NCC anyway, but the n6 is already somewhat unreliable, We'll see. They should have never removed the Springfield Blvd stop in the first place. They can remove Westminster Road however, If someone wants to transfer to the n15/n31/n32 they can get off at Hilton Ave and cross the Street. 

N21- It's probably to avoid the N20/N27 transfer nightmare.

N43 - This is an interesting route, before its introduction Uniondale Ave had crap N45 bus service, now they have the N43 which went to more (useful) locations ,now it goes to Hempstead during non summer months and look how the ridership has grown. Routing is important. Just because a route along a corridor doesn't get patronized doesn't mean there is no demand for service it could just be that the routes that serve the corridor are useless.

N45/51 - Like someone mentioned above, the more stops the merrier. 

N71 - How will this route go to Farmingdale? Will it go to 110 then down to Sunrise Mall? Or will it go to Sunrise Mall along its normal route, then run up Route 110 to Conklin St? Will SCT have an issue with this?

Yuki are you going? Who's recording these meetings?

It's like they discourage productivity with those rules in place.

Uhm, those buses are 13 years old, what do you expect? Even in my town 10 year old Mercedes buses are breaking down frequently and we do pay a high price for the maintenance plus they're built by Mercedes which everyone is getting horny from.

haha

And don't say we don't have the money. If I were in Mangano's shoes I would've found the money. Certainly it's there among all the Range Rovers, X5s, and Escalade's I see daily.

Just because you see these expensive cars doesn't mean the owners can afford them.

An extention of the N70 to Wherever, the elmination of the n6 and n72, and 60 minute headways weekends and 30 minute headways on all of hempstead turnpike is nice. Yeah Spring is very NICE to customers.

LOL

Where did you get that from? The flower map was just a little artwork for the NICE Facebook page, it doesn't mean anything.

I think he was joking

Look what nice pasted on facebook: 

Isn't that NICE? 

How was the meeting?

That's incorrect. Transfers were valid from all connecting routes to the N88 with any MC. The N87 also accepted transfers from all connecting routes.

You're right, it was a 2nd transfer that couldn't be used on the N88. 

Under LIB it was always a separate fare for the Jones Beach bus, no transfers were valid. You could use an unlimited card, but if you had a PPR it automatically took another fare.

There was one train that had all 11 cars full but luckily I waited for the next train behind it which was way emptier.

Not too bad then. Maybe people rushed home before 10 to avoid the hassle. 

Sometimes their analysis is flawed kinda easy to overlook though on a line like N6 you can get blinded by the crowds.

Right, there is a lot of turn over. Just because a bus is full between the subway and Hempstead, doesn't mean they were on the bus for the entire trip

Yep. Just add back a city line stop (225 St?) ...I don't think the bus should be making local stops in Queens. Its an express bus meant to get people from the subway to Nassau faster during rush hour, the local is always there.

The defunct limited stop was Locustwood Blvd which was useful for western Elmont Resident to get to the Subway Quicker as well as to other transfer points and Hempstead.

As for Queens, many people use the Springfield Blvd stop and Francis Lewis & Hillside Stop. There are times where Springfield Blvd becomes flag central as you have 10 people or so waiting for the N6 and they're too packed to let anyone else on.

Even though a lot of riders are going to/from the Subway, there are a lot of riders and reverse commuters going between eastern Queens, points along the N6, and Hempstead. The N6 has a lot of overlapping trips which it seems NICE didn't notice.

How packed was the to 74th st? And was there a conga line to the QB Platforms?

I wonder how bus transfers are announced with the new system. I like how the date and time shows.

The Clever Device works by satellite. Not by wheel rotation or any of the other assumptions that have been posted. The buses are currently being dry-run on all the routes for the new system that's being installed.

I KNEW IT! By the way, that's coming from a driver right there!

Lets be clear, according to the post we can assume that the NEW system  is running by GPS. The OLD system was definitely not GPS or it wouldn't have been wrong so frequently.

I remember, when there was flooding on the Long Beach Line , or the drawbridge was stuck or whatever and so service was suspended. This lady was being interviewed by the news on Old Country Road and County Seat Drive saying that she was "stranded" in Mineola and she "had" to take a cab to Long Beach. HELLO!! N15!!!

There is... Greg Mocker over dramatic, harassing  report: http://landing.newsinc.com/wpix/video.html?freewheel=91044&sitesection=wpix&VID=24617536

 

Oh. gross.

Right, he provided no help whatsoever. the F IS running, he made it seem like the entire line was shut down.

Wow, Fast Track doesn't even get news stories anymore, there is no mention of this FastTrack other than the MTA's site.

What is your basis for saying the announcements worked off the wheel rotations? How do you know they weren't powered by the GPS system on board the buses? That has been the subject of controversy for some time now. And whatever system was in place in Long Island Bus, NICE hasn't changed it?

Well, for one, sometimes the announcements are clearly wrong . If the announcements for example are one stop off, it would remain that way unless the driver pulled up to a stop, changed the stop name manually, then open and closed the doors. 

I'm fairly certain that the announcements are wheel rotation based.

Anyone taking photos?