N6 Limited

I thoughtparody mmeant like similarly. ..thanks for the correction

 

Well yeah the s71 deadhead from Shirley is long although it goes all William Floyd Parkway to either Coram yard or Ronkonkoma yard (whichever it rest) and the s66 from Riverhead toRonkonkoma is very long almost like making a return trip to Patchogue. ..i would guess the s66 deadheading from Riverhead goes to take the 495 at Calverton

 

I guess that may be the other reason for the last s66 arriving Riverhead at 7:40pm to make a last run at 7:50pm...is to at least get some revenue from fare paying passengers as it heads to Patchogue and thus close to Ronkonkoma and would end up getting some money and not deadheading like i mentioned from Riverhead

 

Also the s58 arriving at 8:30pm should make a last run leaving at 8:45pm and arriving at Coram Plaza at 9:45pm and thusdeadheads to the depot of the aforementioned town name (Coram) since it isquite long to deadheads from East Northport to Coram with no revenue plus (likewise to said s66 leaving Riverhead at 7:40pm)

Ahh, you mean "parity"

Parody can have two meanings:

1) an imitation of the style of a particular writer, artist, or genre with deliberate exaggeration for comic effect.

2) an imitation or a version of something that falls far short of the real thing.

 

I would accept the word "parody" in DS4Ever's post context.

LOL

Mango "found" some money and that's going to restore some of the cuts.  This stinks of something else, though.

Sure he did. He probably had the money but let the cuts go through so that they can seem like a savior. 

I just hope that they use it wisely, and bring back routes which have caused connectivity issues.

Right.

NICE has said they still had a $3M budget gap though - wouldn't this just go to fill the holes?

It probably should. But if they want to reinstate routes for political gain they'll probably reinstate something... until the next cut. For example, they brought back the N17 only to cut it later.

Ohhh nowthat's new news to hear. ..well between carmans rd andcounty line rd is a mere two blocks away

The section of Merrick Rd/Montauk Hwy without service now is between Unqua Rd & Route 110, according to google maps that's 1.3 miles.

There's still no service between Unqua Rd and Route 110. Would it make sense if they rerouted the N19 so that it uses Merrick Road up to County Line Rd?

Now that they've put up the new GTFS, here's the new interlining charts:

 

Weekday

Saturday

Sunday

 

There's quite a few n20G-n20H pairings in there.

Interesting interlinings. 

Packed on Memorial Day and regular service on weekends, yes. But often on weekdays during the summer, the buses ran close to empty which has contributed to the cost.

 

Add in the fact that NICE doesn't have resources to have relief buses on the n88 anymore like Long Island Bus did on days like Memorial Day, and you have people who just stopped taking it and drive to the beach.

 

IF the n88 were to be eliminated, though concert service is already removed I believe (but from what I saw on here, they screwed that up anyway), they could always extend a couple of n40/41 or even n4 runs to the beach and see how that plays out. At least hound didn't say the n88 was next on the chopping block before the n33 and the n36.

Imagine if they had N4x buses go to Jones beach on weekends. (Since ridership is light during the week)

Maybe just back to the depot. Remember this is the same company that's having a lot of n70 buses deadhead to/from Melville (which is nowhere near a depot) instead of making a return trip. The same thing with the n45 in the PM rush going back to Roosevelt Field. 

Yeah I see a lot of deadheading buses at times.  But why have N70 buses deadheading to Melville when they can return as a N70 or N72? Also, do they use the parkways for deadheading like the Q46 does?

In the evening when Soutbound N1's are coming from Jamaica, where do the northbound N1's deadhead to after leaving the terminal at Hempstead Turnpike?

The problem is that it screws up ridership stats, since it looks like fewer people took the n20G from Great Neck to Queens, compared to the number that actually did.

The buses have Automatic Passenger Counters, they'll see the alightings.

The south end of the 6th Ave line at Herald Square smells like sewage.

Because PinePowerLI always knows what he's talking about. Didn't you know that?

 

At this point, bringing back the n73/74 or n80/81 will not restore the ridership that was once there. Hell, you could put a coach bus on the route and it still won't attract constant ridership. Better off paying for better duct tape for NICE buses.

LOL

Weekday 20:15 n20H from Hicksville to Great Neck does 9:20 n20G Flushing from Great Neck. Everyone on this trip was happy.

What was the last bus before?

I came up with an idea while waiting for the train:

Install CBTC on the and run 2 car trains 5 mins. And if they can't run 2 car trains, then use 4 car trains.

Their probably going to take their time, especially since someone from NICE had said in Newsday that if they were to get the money the cut routes could be reinstated. If they went right out an took all the signs down it would show that the cuts would be permanent and the person lied. (Not to mention wasteful if they were telling the truth and reinstated the routes if they got the money)

 

What they are probably doing is waiting for like a month or two or whenever they think they are sure they won't be getting any money to reinstate them or that riders forgot what they said and most likely have found other ways of getting around, 

 

Or they could just say heck with it and just leave them up. Suffolk left a route sign up even though a route didn't serve it, not sure if it was an approved route change by the county also don't know if the sign is still up since they renovated the ambulance station the sign was on. Also Suffolk put up a bus sign a few years ago for a route that doesn't serve the stop, though again it goes towards that route change mentioned earlier. So it goes to show that route signs aren't seen as important. 

At the hearing, Setzer said if they were to get more money it would be used for the busy routes where people get passed by full buses, etc.

NICE is having a funding/budget problem, don't expect them to rush out to take down signs

Real time works for the eastbound N20 G and H now, so people can plan their transfers better

Five years ago, 60 people on all but a few trips was a thing.

Yes, during that time I would be surprised if there were any seats available or no standees on any trip! Now, it's not that rare.

Well, if business went down, it went down by 4 people lol

LOL the exaggeration reminds me when Pinepower would take a video of a bus with 15-20 people on it (sometimes with NO standees) and be like "look how crowded this bus is! They treat us like cattle!!" lol And it was just funny because some n6 trips have like 60 people on board, three times as many people.

Why you always lying why you is lying? If you want to be taken seriously have the decency to not lie. So a bus with 4 people gets cut and business drops you know your wrong have some integrity.

LOL.

Back to NICE Bus, n20G line had longest line that strecht all the way to Rotary at Great Neck Station, so n20G/H is costly some people 30-45 minutes extra on their old n20 commute.

The snow screwed up all routes. On the N6 either all buses were headed to Jamaica, or all buses were headed to Hempstead. The split probably made the N20H on time. If the route wasn't split they'd have been waiting in Hicksville for like an an hour.

We all knew it wouldn't work. It's only driving their ridership down even more. NICE sucks more than ever.

What did the planners say when you all said it wouldn't work?

After elimination of n80/81 and n19 Suffolk County Segment, Sunrise Mall seems to be loosing business.

It's been losing business since Walmart left.

Have the N20G/H signs been fixed yet?

1:10 pm Sunday, January 24th

New York City and Long Island received near record snow falls yesterday.  As a result, many roads are still dangerous or impassable as snow removal gets underway.  WE HAVE SUSPENDED SOME PM SERVICE BUT  ROUTES WILL BE REINSTATED AS ROAD CONDITIONS/TERMINAL CONDITIONS IMPROVE.  PLEASE NOTE, THESE ROUTES MAY BE DETOURED DUE TO ROAD CONDITIONS. CUSTOMERS SHOULD EXPECT SIGNIFICANT DELAYS IN SERVICE DUE TO ROAD CONDITIONS.  

 

Check back here for a list of routes that will be running.

n4 .....every 30 minutes

n6......evert 30 minutes

n19...every 60 minutes

ALTERED n20G/H ....every 30 mintues(buses will run from Flushing to Hicksville and only make stops on Northern Blvd.  Buses will NOT make stops in Great Neck, Roslyn or the colleges due to road condtions)

n22.....every 30 mintues

n24.....every 30 minutes

n32.....every 60 minutes

 n33 ....every 30 minutes

n40/41..every 60 minutes

n43......every 60 minutes

n71/72 ....every 30 minutes

 

The n21, n23, n25, n27, n58 will be suspended today due to road conditions/terminal conditions.

 

Our Able Ride service has been suspended for Sunday and will resume Monday.  

 

MTA bus and subway service has restarted but will be limited and with possible detours, please check www.mta.info for details

 

Suffolk County Transit service is suspended for today and will resume Monday

 

Long Island Rail Road service is suspended for today and will resume Monday

 

For additional information visit NICEBUS.com or for up to the minute information follow us on Facebook and Twitter @thenicebus.

 

PLEASE NOTE:  Nassau Community College will be closed on Saturday/Sunday.  As a result, no buses will be servicing the college campus

 

‪#‎NICEALERT‬

We will not run a.m. service Sunday morning. We will announce tomorrow morning as to when we will be able to resume service and at what level for the afternoon.

Able Ride service is canceled for Sunday and will resume Monday.

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/lawmakers-and-riders-protest-cuts-to-nice-bus-service-1.11341354

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/nassau-s-nice-bus-service-to-cut-routes-used-by-2-000-riders-1.11309443

Real time information isn't working for eastbound N20G and N20H buses. The least they can do is have this information working for a line they just split.